Does "LAW" matter?

[Truth]

What is "keep the Sabbath" (in this particular context) anyway? Does it mean to identify a certain day of the week? Does it mean to set aside the full 24 hours of that day? Does it mean to give God time each week? Can that time (or day... or number of hours) ever change? What do we do if you are employed at something that requires you to work on particular days that violate such an idea? Even a priest or preacher engages in his employment on days the book said not to work at all.

Have we created a law God never intended for us to labor under?

No, none of this requires any answer at all. I was just musing.....

I know you said that it was a rhetorical statement!!! And everything you stated has a valid point, So I would say, it should say Observe the Sabbath, then Yes, Yes, Yes, and No!
what do we do if employment interferes! That my friend is a very difficult thing. In 2002 I began to try to Observe the Sabbath, At first I could manage 2 out of 4 Sabbaths a month. I worked 12 hour shifts, so I really only worked 15 days a month, OK, So then I made the decision to keep them all, I worked for this CO. for 18 years, so I could use Vacation days, and that worked Ok for about 3 years, then I finally ran out of vacation, I tried to get a different position with weekends off, they would not work with me, so I went out and found another Job, that would work with me! I had to take a 75% cut in income, but that was Ok ! eventually we lost everything for lack of income, But I do not regret keeping the Sabbath!

 

[Stranger]

I have! and eventually, I came to the conclusion that the Sabbath was made for man, and it also was a commandment, plus God said it was a sign between Him and his people, SO I keep the original FRI sundown - SAT sundown Sabbath, I also believe that if we keep this Sabbath, by doing so we declare that God did create the heavens and the earth, And Rested, and Instituted the Sabbath, and declared it Holy - Set Apart!

As far as what you do before the Lord is your business, I am pretty sure that the Lord won't ask me why you did what you did!

Where did God say it was a sign between Him and his people?

Yet concerning the sabbath Jesus said, when charged with breaking the Sabbath, "...My Father worketh hitherto, and I work." So though God rested on the Sabbath, yet God the Father and Son continue to work on the Sabbath.

So, you're saying you keep the Sabbath because it is Law.

Stranger

 

[Truth]

Where did God say it was a sign between Him and his people?

Yet concerning the sabbath Jesus said, when charged with breaking the Sabbath, "...My Father worketh hitherto, and I work." So though God rested on the Sabbath, yet God the Father and Son continue to work on the Sabbath.

So, you're saying you keep the Sabbath because it is Law.

Stranger

First do you understand Pharisee-ism, known today as Orthodox Judaism, which was theeeeee most followed Religion at the time Jesus walked among His people Israel. And it was far from following Moses, the OT, the Commandments, even the Temple Service was corrupted by this man made religion.
The Key- is it wrong to do Good on the Sabbath, so when ever you read that our Lord was about His Father business on the Sabbath, you need to discern if it was good or bad!
Exodus 31:13-14 Question above!!!
I keep the Sabbath because I Love God and Savior--------- If you Love me keep My Commandments!
If you do not have a good understand of Orthodox Judaism, You would do well to research it!

 

[Stranger]

First do you understand Pharisee-ism, known today as Orthodox Judaism, which was theeeeee most followed Religion at the time Jesus walked among His people Israel. And it was far from following Moses, the OT, the Commandments, even the Temple Service was corrupted by this man made religion.
The Key- is it wrong to do Good on the Sabbath, so when ever you read that our Lord was about His Father business on the Sabbath, you need to discern if it was good or bad!
Exodus 31:13-14 Question above!!!
I keep the Sabbath because I Love God and Savior--------- If you Love me keep My Commandments!
If you do not have a good understand of Orthodox Judaism, You would do well to research it!

The point is, Jesus and the Father worked on the Sabbath. So, what do you mean by 'keeping the Sabbath'?

(Ex. 31:13) is too Israel.

Did Jesus command you to keep the Sabbath?

Stranger

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

First do you understand Pharisee-ism, known today as Orthodox Judaism, which was theeeeee most followed Religion at the time Jesus walked among His people Israel. And it was far from following Moses, the OT, the Commandments, even the Temple Service was corrupted by this man made religion.
The Key- is it wrong to do Good on the Sabbath, so when ever you read that our Lord was about His Father business on the Sabbath, you need to discern if it was good or bad!
Exodus 31:13-14 Question above!!!
I keep the Sabbath because I Love God and Savior--------- If you Love me keep My Commandments!
If you do not have a good understand of Orthodox Judaism, You would do well to research it!

Orthodox Christianity would mean true Christianity, so it's not tampered with or trendy.
True Israel-Judah Orthodox would mean it is the well spring of that religion and noting to do with Pharisee-ism at all.

So the fact is if they are not Orthodox then they are fools for sure and lead astray by man or Satan.

If one was to have a car museum stating all Fords only, you would expect to see only Fords in there and one could say that such was an orthodox Ford Museum, now if there was one Datsun etc in their, then it would not be regarded an orthodox museum at all, because it has something added to.

Truly only Orthodox Judaism is worthy of any regard and the rest or so called Judaism is tainted with just nonsense that's not worthy of God at all but is only of mans works.

Many duped Christians are looking to false Jews nowadays, that are not worthy of Jacob Israel or Holy Moses at all, most such so called Jews are truly Satanist, Sodomites and Zionist, Talmud bigots totally racist beyond belief low life filthy scoundrels and you know what many so called Christians idolise this trash and look down on the true people of Judah. yes they would do well to research into such things, starting with the Talmud whores and the false Zionism.

 

[Truth]

The point is, Jesus and the Father worked on the Sabbath. So, what do you mean by 'keeping the Sabbath'?

(Ex. 31:13) is too Israel.

Did Jesus command you to keep the Sabbath?

Stranger

I rest for one, I read His word for two, I refrain from any form of work , Prayer, and the best part of all we discuss Scripture, I love His word and sharing it with any who will listen, I think that sums it up!
What did Our Savior do! He went into the Temple, on mountain sides, on the shores of the Galilee, went into synagogues, and for what purpose? To Preach the Acceptable Gospel of the Kingdom. I have never read where he did any Physical Work!-----Again ARE YOU AWARE OF THE FALSE RELIGION OF THE PHARISEES-- Yes or No would do!

 

[quietthinker]

The bottom line is that people want to keep their idols and they don't like the 7th day being the Sabbath.
Re idols, whether it be money or popularity or anything that is worshipped knocks the God of Creation out of the equation while the 7th day Sabbath which identifies him is equally inconvenient. All the others are good for lip service.
With this arrangement men have effectively deceived themselves in accordance to the signature statement I use, namely 'what men want is a method of forgetting God that shall pass as a method of remembering him'

 

[Stranger]

I rest for one, I read His word for two, I refrain from any form of work , Prayer, and the best part of all we discuss Scripture, I love His word and sharing it with any who will listen, I think that sums it up!
What did Our Savior do! He went into the Temple, on mountain sides, on the shores of the Galilee, went into synagogues, and for what purpose? To Preach the Acceptable Gospel of the Kingdom. I have never read where he did any Physical Work!-----Again ARE YOU AWARE OF THE FALSE RELIGION OF THE PHARISEES-- Yes or No would do!

I apologize for not giving the verse before. (John 5:17) "But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto and I work."

Whatever you want to call yourself or Jesus doing...Jesus says, "My Father worketh...and I work." And that being on the Sabbath.

Yes, I am aware of the Pharisees.

Stranger

 

[Truth]

I apologize for not giving the verse before. (John 5:17) "But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto and I work."

Whatever you want to call yourself or Jesus doing...Jesus says, "My Father worketh...and I work." And that being on the Sabbath.

Yes, I am aware of the Pharisees.

Stranger

So you do realize that when the Priests [Pharisees] scolded Him and His disciples for going through the Grain field and plucking grain on the Sabbath, That they were referring to their own man made rules and regulations, which they had termed Commandments, which they had added to Gods word!

Also the worketh, was the Miracles preformed to establish our Savior's Authority over the man made religion of the day. God is Spirit, so how could God do any work, Physically. I can make a sandwich on the Sabbath, but not butcher a cow, I can pour milk in a glass, but not go out and harvest a field. Think about it!!!! Or can you show Scripture where God and or Savior got down to Physical Labor, besides walking, and the Sabbath days Journey is another man made commandment of the Pharisees!

 

[aspen]

Yes, Christ counts us as friends. However we are still servants of the King! God created the Universe, and by right of creation, ALL men, not just a specific race, owe Him obedience to His Law.

Well, we can agree God is not a racist - he loves everyone. Not sure how people who call themselves Christians can be racists, but apparently they do exist

 

[Dcopymope]

Well, we can agree God is not a racist - he loves everyone. Not sure how people who call themselves Christians can be racists, but apparently the do exist

We should have asked this question over 400 years ago.

 

[aspen]

We should have asked this question over 400 years ago.

I have no tolerance for it - i used to be passive when I would see it or stumbled into it myself - not anymore

 

[Dcopymope]

I have no tolerance for it - i used to be passive when I would see it or stumbled into it myself - not anymore

What really triggered me the last few days was the news coming out of how our people from Africa are just getting dragged through the mud by these creatures called "Asians", another mayonnaise skinned creature . They are proving themselves to be nothing more than the weird, squinty eyed version of white supremacy. Its the same crap, different day. I hope every single restaurant, hotel, any business owned by the Chinese in Africa just get burned down to the ground. It was done before, it needs to happen again on a mass scale. Here is a video about what I'm talking about in case you are wondering. If you are black, the world is against you, and its really that simple.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Well, we can agree God is not a racist - he loves everyone. Not sure how people who call themselves Christians can be racists, but apparently the do exist

Talking to a religious mate abut that the other day, is God a racist, well mate said yes he is a racist as to the tower of babble, God set them on there way.
God made all the different races as well, why not just one ? not to mention gave them there lands.
Such is all Biblical aspen.

So is God racist and what does racist truly mean, I know of blacks that are proud of their race and I am fine with that and they don't like white people and I am fine with that because I know what they are on about. they are not out to hurt anyone or do wrong to anyone but stand up for their rights.

One could stand and point out who is from what race and that is racist according to the Political correct gods of Socialism and everyone is all the same to such Socialist, made into no body's.

But there is a great difference between racial prejudice and racist, prejudice is ignorance and ignorance can be a problem.

Political Correctness Socialist gods are full on prejudice bigots because they class everyone the same, they have no true regard for culture or race, sure they play there cunning games but in the end all are enslaved under there Marxist Communist agenda, that just destroys people body and soul.
We have such here undermining the true Aboriginal people walking all over them for years and making out that people white as me are Aboriginal, it's just a cunning trick to stand over the real peoples, oh they sure are cunning I will give them that. Devils to be sure. that's how Satanist work they make out they are giving but in fact they are robbing the people of their everything.

 

[aspen]

What really triggered me the last few days was the news coming out of how our people from Africa are just getting dragged through the mud by these creatures called "Asians", another mayonnaise skinned creature . They are proving themselves to be nothing more than the weird, squinty eyed version of white supremacy. Its the same crap, different day. I hope every single restaurant, hotel, any business owned by the Chinese in Africa just get burned down to the ground. It was done before, it needs to happen again on a mass scale. Here is a video about what I'm talking about in case you are wondering. If you are black, the world is against you, and its really that simple.

Horrible!

BTW, i do not tolerate racism from any race - including European. Asian, Latino, Arab, Persian, or African. Yes, all groupe are guilty and need to root it out.

 

[Triumph1300]

Its the same crap, different day. I hope every single restaurant, hotel, any business owned by the Chinese in Africa just get burned down to the ground.

And that's going to solve what?

 

[Dcopymope]

And that's going to solve what?

Its called mass exodus, respect me, or get off my land. Its about time for all of these colonizers to kick rocks.

 

[Dcopymope]

Horrible!

BTW, i do not tolerate racism from any race - including European. Asian, Latino, Arab, Persian, or African. Yes, all groupe are guilty and need to root it out.

Short of Jesus Christs second coming, I believe the only way it will be "rooted out" is by separation of every ethnic group. That's what Malcom X and many other black leaders proposed, and it was too late by the time Martin Luther King realized this fact, that integration was in fact not the solution. I don't see this ever happening to a scale that's needed for it to solve our problems, so things will get much worse before it ever gets any better.

 

[Truth]

Its called mass exodus, respect me, or get off my land. Its about time for all of these colonizers to kick rocks.

I had a discussion years ago with a natural born Mexican about Prejudice, he was claiming the same stuff that Blacks try to push down our throats, and that is, that WE have done them wrong throughout the past 100+ years, So my response was that I could not be Prejudice, Because that in all of History in this Country, there is written thing's pertaining to the people that WORKED their BUTTS of to Establish this Land! We over-through the Native American Indians to take their land that had been there's for hundreds of years, and by the way these people were kinda White Anglo Saxon's! The real people that established this Country were from every, Race, Creed, and nationality that came here to find a better Life, they Hated the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews, the Blacks, the Mexicans, you name em they Hated them, with the exception of White Anglo Saxon Protestant's, and if you had no real education you were still treated like a slave to accomplish what the wealthy needed to get done! If the white Man hadn't stopped to make a Buck where would we be today. IMO
They did KICK Rock's, Just to build the Railroad, which was the Mainstream to the expansion of this Glorious Land!
Don't Blame the people of today for Lack of Respect, Blame Your Government for being lax about educating people to become Americans!

 

[Dcopymope]

I had a discussion years ago with a natural born Mexican about Prejudice, he was claiming the same stuff that Blacks try to push down our throats, and that is, that WE have done them wrong throughout the past 100+ years, So my response was that I could not be Prejudice, Because that in all of History in this Country, there is written thing's pertaining to the people that WORKED their BUTTS of to Establish this Land! We over-through the Native American Indians to take their land that had been there's for hundreds of years, and by the way these people were kinda White Anglo Saxon's! The real people that established this Country were from every, Race, Creed, and nationality that came here to find a better Life, they Hated the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews, the Blacks, the Mexicans, you name em they Hated them, with the exception of White Anglo Saxon Protestant's, and if you had no real education you were still treated like a slave to accomplish what the wealthy needed to get done! If the white Man hadn't stopped to make a Buck where would we be today. IMO
They did KICK Rock's, Just to build the Railroad, which was the Mainstream to the expansion of this Glorious Land!
Don't Blame the people of today for Lack of Respect, Blame Your Government for being lax about educating people to become Americans!

I don't care nothing about no Mexicans, or anybody considered "people of color". They don't care two cents about my people, never once standing up for my people, so the hell with them. I'm not talking about so called "people of color", I'm talking about black people, and Mexicans are not black. When it comes to black people, there is a special type of racism displayed from every group. Even the Mexicans are taught to hate black people, and are often treated accordingly in some areas. This ain't no coalition, we ain't in this together, its blacks against the world.