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  1. Behold

    Behold Well-Known Member

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    Reader.../

    The things of God, often work backwards regarding how WE THINK.

    For example, God elevates those in LIFE who are found on their knees the most....
    Look at your knees, Reader.
    Are you able to get on your knees and pray?
    Do you have any marks or callouses on your knees from being on them for years, every day a few times, when you pray and worship?
    Do you start every day of your life with God?

    You might want to think about what i just said...
    My answer to you, is : Yes.
    I have them on my knees.
    I start every day of my Life with God.

    Listen,

    God does not elevate the loudest, or the smartest, or the most educated, or the best talker, or the best of anything.
    God has no use for using what we are "best at", as then, its us doing it. = getting the credit.
    Now... we can have a real gift, a real talent, like music. I have this. And God uses it because i gave it to Him.
    Does God have your talent?
    Does God have all of you , yet?
    Can you draw, sing, paint, teach, play an instrument..... Can you build stuff, make stuff, create stuff? Did you give This Talent to God, whatever it is?
    Why not?
    What are you waiting for?
    Do you need an invitation to give God ALL OF YOU?

    Some of you here try to pretend you can teach, but you can't.
    You are lost in the bible, somewhere. And why?
    Because you didnt start or complete your faith here. Hebrews 13:9

    Listen, if you want to be a teacher that matters, then you have to crawl before you walk before you run.
    Many of you were trying to teach before you learned anything that allows God to show you more.

    Listen, until you are obsessed with GRACE and the Blood of Jesus, God will give you no further revelation.
    You have to obsess on wanting to be Holy.
    You have to obsess on understanding the Grace of God as the Blood of Jesus, working eternally as the doctrine of the Blood Atonement.
    You have to obsess on all that to the point that you are eating it spiritually like you are starving.

    Most of you have no idea what the Cross has accomplished based on the Blood of Jesus and that is why you can't teach, and you can't hear.
    See, you are stuck in nothing that matters, Theologically, and until you go back to the first principals and stay there, God will give you NO LIGHT.
    Go to Hebrew 13:9 and live there for life.
    Get into Ephesians, Colossians, Philippians, Galatians, for 2 yrs and never leave there, except to read Titus and 1-2 Tim and Romans.
    Get OUT of Hebrews.
    Get OUT of Matthew.
    Get OUT of James.
    If you want to meditate a Gospel, then read John.

    See, you've been too involved in those 3 epistles and "the Revelation" and that is why you dont know anything about Christianity, and you are saved 15-50 yrs.
    Listen,
    God will not show you anything until you learn to "Rightly divide the word", and you have to STUDY to show yourself approved to do that.
    And this means you have to become not just a disciple of Jesus, but a disciple of PAUL.
    Paul said..."follow ME as i follow Christ".
    Paul said the Gospel of the Grace of God "Justification by Faith"...Paul said is "my gospel".
    Did you know that?
    Now you do.
    If you are not a disciple of Paul's epistles then your theology is useless. Its nothing but error and pride and self effort, related.
    This is why you keep sinning, repenting, and can't do anything about it.

    Are you still waiting to give all of yourself to God?
    Ok, consider yourself INVITED !!

    God uses us by taking the lowly and the weak, and lifting us up by His GRACE so that we stand in His power.
    God is the one doing it.. Its all God who is doing the healing, the delivering, the changing....the teaching.
    So, He's never looking for the qualified as we comprehend this... He instead is looking for the dependable and the available.
    He's looking for someone who will BELIEVE HIM and never quit.

    Most Christians are high maintenance low impact do nothings.
    Its always the .0001% of the Body of Christ that is actually doing the witnessing, the teaching, the outreach, the hospital visits, the Jail ministry, the missionary trips....the real work.
    Truthfully, most believers make a christian forum worse by being on it, just like they make a church worse by being in it.
    Really.

    When i come to a forum to try to upset it...to try to shake it up and shake it loose, i know im going to be kicked and attacked and mocked by most members who are do nothing carnal devils, that speak christianeze, and FAKE IT on a forum.
    But, what always happens is, i'll get 2-10 people who are reading and studying me because they encountered something that hit them really hard in their spirit when they read me for the first time... and then it just keeps happening the more they read me.
    Well, im not doing that to you. All i can do is WRITE,= but i can't reveal the LIGHT.
    God reveals, i just write.
    So, the Light is hitting you because God is working with me, reader.

    I'll have the fakirs and the liars chasing me around accusing me of twisting verses and misrepresenting the truth, while they keep sinning and repenting and DON'T HEAR ME, because their Pride has their spiritual ears totally blocked, ...YET, there will be 2-10 on every forum im on who get into my words and find themselves SEEING, for the first time.

    Why does God use me on a forum and in life in a powerful way? = Because i only give God and Jesus credit for Salvation.
    I never try to take the credit that Jesus gained and earned alone by His blood, and replace it with commandments, or Torah, or Law, or self effort, or works, or lifestyle.
    I never confuse "discipleship" with Salvation., and most Christians do.
    I never will tell you that you that God will keep you if you live right, do good, or try harder.
    See, i know better. I know that its only the Blood of Jesus that God accepts to accept you and keep you.
    God does not accept you at all, until the blood of Jesus has made you acceptable to God.
    Your works are dirty before you are saved and they are just as dirty today.....but because the BLood of Jesus has made YOU Clean, then God now accepts you and will keep you.
    Most of you have not understood this yet, but for the few of you that have, and for the few others who are coming into this Light of God's Grace, then GOD BLESS YOU TO SEE MORE..!

    And so for THOSE that God gives me on a forum, i will put up with the rest of the noisy ones.
    As those 2-10, will end up growing very fast and changing very much.
    They will begin to SEE the false gospel of "self saving". "self effort", and will actually begin to become offended by people who teach this carnal Cross rejecting theology that is preached by those who are Legalists who are "fallen from Grace".

    Here is something that Liberal Christian Mods on some "christian" forums, can never seem to realize...
    Its this. = When you allow theology that rejects Grace to be taught by people on a forum, .. this offends the Spirit of God in real believers and they will REACT.
    So, this is "fighting"...and it will never stop, until a forum stops allowing what offends God's Grace to be taught.

    So. THESE are the worthwhile, the sincere, and they find me. They are not just here to argue and try to "sound smart" or "sound spiritual"/. They are here to learn about GOD's methods and how to get busy doing the real work.
    These people always find me, because God always brings them to me.
    These people will say to God...."i am yours, i am yours, I am YOURS GOD....here i am.....send me"...!
     
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    Helen Well-Known Member

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    Amen. You have said a lot here.
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    The problem here is, to me, that you make out that we're all a bunch of do nothing carnal devils, and we really don't need more of that.
     
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    Behold Well-Known Member

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    There is no problem with my Thread.
    It has "LIKES".
    So, if you dont like it, you can work that out for yourself, marks.

    Did i call your name?
    Did i point you out?
    I said there are many useless believers and i listed their symptoms.
    What i didnt do was name a name.
    I just spotlighted a TYPE.
     
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    Behold Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for taking the time to read me.
     
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    Helen Well-Known Member

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    Some posts I don't even read to the end...but I could hear your heart cry and genuine burden for God's people.
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    I'm telling you my thoughts. Take it or leave it.
     
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    Behold Well-Known Member

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    And im telling you Paul's.
    Paul got it from Jesus.
    Take it or leave it, marks.

    See, let me tell you about me..
    Im not a "modern era" Evangelist - Teacher
    Im sort of a "last of our kind".
    I teach Pauline Theology.
    I dont teach anything else.., and this is not "modern Christianity", for the most part.
    People who are infected with modern christianity are, found, for the most part, to be Legalists.

    My words will never offend anyone who understands that Salvation is a Gift. "the gift of Righteousness".

    Otherwise.... "ouch".
     
  9. justbyfaith

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    2 Timothy 3:16 tells us that all scripture is inspired of the Lord and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness.

    So Matthew, Hebrews, and James, should all be a part of our diet in reading God's word on a daily basis; while we should definitely not neglect the epistles that you are emphasizing we need to read, @Behold.

    It is integral to us that we have a balance in our understanding of God's word.

    I spend most of my time in the epistles that you are exalting in your OP.

    However, I do not believe that neglecting specific books of the Bible is going to be a key to getting the correct understanding.

    They are inspired too.
     
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    Behold Well-Known Member

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    Well you again quoted verses and gave an opinion that can harm Christians.
    I wonder if you care, or do you just exist on fourms hoping to be perceived as a teacher, more then anything else.

    Here is what you forgot to tell them.
    1.)You have to study a bible, and not just read it. "study to show yourself approved".
    2.) You have to "rightly divide the word" and "spiritually discern" the word. or you will wrongly divide it and become a heretic and be faith ruined your entire life.
    3.) find a good teacher and let them show you where to go..... do not ever just jump into a bible and read it thinking that you will be shown by an inner voice what is "truth", as the devil just HOPES some dumb believer tries that, and he'll take your mind and have you upside down in an hour.


    Why do you think that most people on a forum, can't agree on anything?
    Is it because no one is right?
    No, its because most have been taught really bad theology, or, they learned the wrong parts of the bible before they were of complete understanding of Grace.
    Hebrews 13:9 has to be the baby steps that lead to the rest of the NT., going right into PAUL and staying there for a while.

    So, if a person does what you just told them to do, and they are not equipped to handle strong verses, or verses that can lead them into deep deep heresy, then you just ruined whomever does what you said to do.
    Do you care?
    I dont think so.
    I think you just want to cut and paste and try to seem spiritual.
    No offense.
    =You need to wake up.

    Listen, you need to try to do more then just "seem" like you know what you are talking about by posting blue and red cut and paste over and over.
    Do not be so concerned about how people here perceive you.
    Instead be concerned about not harming someone using bad teaching and verses that are twisted out of context.
     
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    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    You don't even know me.

    I very much care about the salvation of those to whom I minister; and that is why I post.

    You have three fingers pointing back at you (see Matthew 7:1-5, Luke 6:41-42).

    And yes, you do mean offense. None taken, though.

    Psa 119:165, Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

    The fact that I often quote scriptures that come mind is not motivated by a desire to look spiritual.

    I quote them because they come to mind when they apply to what is going on; because I know that the word of the Lord will never return void.

    Isa 55:10, For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
    Isa 55:11, So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

    Because the word is nigh me; in my mouth and in my heart (Romans 10:8).
     
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    Prayer Warrior Well-Known Member

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    Hi, Behold, I just wanted to point out that having "likes" doesn't mean that there are no problems with a post or thread. It just means that someone likes, or maybe agrees with, what you're saying. However, it may be one of those "useless believers" who is liking your post, so what good is that? (No offense to anyone who has posted in this thread! :D)

    I appreciate the passion with which you speak, even though I disagree with some of the things you are saying. And for this reason, I wouldn't "like" your original post (OP). That's just how I decide whether to like a post or not.
    .
     
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    Hello Behold,

    I am overjoyed, that the Lord has given you the Grace to no longer stumble.

    For those of us who still struggle, I am also overjoyed that the Lord does not give up on us, but indeed forgives and heals us, when we cry out for His much needed mercy.

    You too! Are welcome to come to the wedding feast of the Lamb of God!

    Peace be with you!
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    "gong"
     
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    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    What exactly are you responding to?

    I certainly hope that it wasn't post #14 (Give it up.), for if it was then you just gonged the holy scriptures.
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    actually, i thought your posts were pretty good.
     
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    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, I appreciate that! That's a nice compliment.
     
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    What matters is not that im "Liked", tho i appreciate this type response.
    What matters is that im read.
     
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    You dont have to "cry out" to get God's mercy.
    You already have it if you are born again.
    This is called "Salvation".
     
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