U might not need to...check my post #13...not true i guess, the example will come to me. i might be wrong, but i don't think that is right?
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U might not need to...check my post #13...not true i guess, the example will come to me. i might be wrong, but i don't think that is right?
Because the Word of God gives us the prescription for that.As Christians...has an atheist or just anyone ever challenged you to,
"Well, heal somebody then, you're a Christian, right?"
Would you?
Or say if you were pleasantly asked to pray for someone for a healing, would you?
Have you?
If you haven't stepped up to bat, why not?
Thanks in advance for anyone interested in posting
i suggest that Christ did not do this at all, what you are suggesting, as weird as that sounds. His healings were of "sight" or "hearing," or "an issue of blood," um, what else, "raising from the dead," "exorcising demons" that i submit all may be read with different eyes, imo Christ did not physically heal ppl at alllike a person dying, a person with epilepsy,
a person with a tumor...and us being an intercessor...helping them...
I get what you're saying naturally...it doesn' bother me, per se...but we all know how threads go off topic...it is a great topic...spiritual healing!The best way to help them is to pray for Spiritual healing. This is the intercessory prayer. Seek first the Kingdom of God...why is it bothersome to you for [your] thread to take a spiritual turn rather than a physical one?
imo the blue writing up there even encodes the correct perception of this concept, only in such a way that one may believe that the presbyters are called to pray for a physical healing, if that is what they want to believe. but imo that v is not saying that at all. It is saying "go to the right people, and they will inform you that your problem is a spiritual one."As for praying for a sick person - yes, we should ALWAYS do that when asked.
ha, amen, i love this the most of all, yes. Iow no, i will not pray for you to be healed of a physical problem that is self-inflicted, even in ignorance. You want an allopath for that, a symptom-treater. What i will do is advise you how to cure the physical problem, this is what i do--or did, anyway--for a living, and you are not going to want to do this usually, because you prefer snickers, see.This one is about physical, however....I have not gotten where I am today...in all avenues of my life from veering off point.*
If someone is hungry and you want to tell them about Jesus ...feed em first.
[And anyone would be talkin to the choir to talk me that spiritual off balance causes physical diseases...like Duh....]
The text is pretty simple. It is talking about a sick person who happens to be a sinner like the rest of us.imo the blue writing up there even encodes the correct perception of this concept, only in such a way that one may believe that the presbyters are called to pray for a physical healing, if that is what they want to believe. but imo that v is not saying that at all. It is saying "go to the right people, and they will inform you that your problem is a spiritual one."
i prefer not to comment on that exactly--except to say that i jibe with most priests (who are not offended at not being called father anyway) quite well, fwiw.The text is pretty simple. It is talking about a sick person who happens to be a sinner like the rest of us.
The prescription in this passage is precisely what is done by a Catholic priest administering Extreme Unction or "Last Rites".
Thanks for explaining. I think this is just the typical debate dance we do though. :)Hmmm...maybe I am mistaken...I did leave out the words, "when asked'',
Jesus healed everyone, no? Everyone, sorry, when asked.
This, also is not a thread on what is more important....but if asked and you didn't
pray for a healing for someone ...how come? That is in the op.
Jesus gave 2 commandments...why complicate things? If your husband or friend
were sick, they asked you as a Christian to pray for a healing for them, since you have the
direct line to contact the Holy Spirit, in their minds after hearing you all these years, ha...
is anyone going to start in on how. ''that is not the most imp thing...they are too concerned
with the physical''?
Because if so...I would be speechless.
No - priests pray prayers of healing. Last Rites is also called Anointing of the Sick.i prefer not to comment on that exactly--except to say that i jibe with most priests (who are not offended at not being called father anyway) quite well, fwiw.
i post to say that priests do not do prayers of healing a la the Prot/Pent method, right?
if the subject is not dying, iow?
how would a priest handle a request for prayer for physical healing, iow
Jesus died for the whole man. Body, soul, & spirit. I believe the pat answer-
" Spiritual healing is much better than physical healing".. is a cop-out for those who have prayed for people who have never been healed, or they are afraid to pray for someone in case they don't get healed.
JESUS said- " Which is easier to say, thy sins be forgive you or arise take up thy bed and walk." Both come to us through Jesus.
I've had many people ask me to pray for them for different reasons, some for physical healing and some for spiritual healing. And I prayed for them.As Christians...has an atheist or just anyone ever challenged you to,
"Well, heal somebody then, you're a Christian, right?"
Would you?
Or say if you were pleasantly asked to pray for someone for a healing, would you?
Have you?
If you haven't stepped up to bat, why not?
Thanks in advance for anyone interested in posting :)
Ok I'll do that later. :)Hi truthquest, thank you.
Idea....in your signature...if you spelled out Romans...it would turn to a link we could click!
boy, i sure remember getting some of those automatic outflowings when i was acting like that as a kid lol...a wild unruly kid while waiting in a check-out.
Freely we have received, therefore freely we give...it should be an automatic outflowing
nice. Along those lines, i think, "body" might better be grasped as "gut" or "intestines" for purposes of healing, the premise being that we are called to have 3 in agreement (healing), those being the mind, heart, and gut. Of course body, soul, and mind are relevant also, and i guess other Threes are also relevant descriptions, spirit, soul, and body, etcPhysical healing is not top priority. We may not like it. But it is true.
yes, the "flesh profits nothing" is usually being misinterpreted there too, i guessIf soul and mind are healed spiritually, how is it then that the "body" suddenly means flesh that is passing away? Christ is the head of His body? What "body" is it, if the head is Spirit?