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Earburner
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Evidently, you are looking for an answer that you want hear, and not what the body of NT scripture speaks of, wherein I placed quotation marks to reference in the KJV.
So in essence, you are not ignoring me, but rather NT scripture.
Likewise with any mortal that has or ever will live. That's why we each should KEEP listening to Him and KEEP growing as His disciples.
The purpose of having one body is to support each other of each person's walk with Christ (He only has one truth). It's not to have men declare what God's truth is and then attack anyone who doesn't agree with that view like the Pharisees of old.
@amadeus "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (John 10.27-28)
Yes, but my question had another purpose.@amadeus "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (John 10.27-28)
Davy
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When it's so obvious that it contradicts Bible Scripture.
For example: some believe there won't be a second coming of Christ Jesus.
That idea is heresy, because there are many, many Bible Scriptures that declare the return of Jesus Christ back to this earth, Zechariah 14 and Acts 1 particularly.
Another example is man's Pre-tribulational Rapture theory -- it says Jesus comes to rapture His Church prior... to the great tribulation He warned of. But in Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27, Jesus showed His coming to gather His saints is AFTER... the tribulation. Thus the Pre-trib Rapture theory is heresy against God's written Word.
Heretics I believe has only ONE mention in Scripture.
I believe a Scriptural “heretic” is trusting to believe, what man proclaims, OVER the Word of God.
More ‘modernly’ (for Centuries), the calling of an other “a heretic”, is more like, NOT agreeing with a “mans” long standing (doctrine and tradition) preaching and teaching.
We certainly are familiar, of “long standing” preaching, teaching, doctrine and traditions OF MEN, who grouped together, Calling “their meeting places” “Catholic Churches”, and Calling “themselves” “Catholics”.
* THEY ^ BTW, are also quite “partial” to the term “HERETIC”, and DO call men, in objection to “THEIR long standing, preaching, teaching, doctrines, traditions....Heretics”.
It is “suppose” to be derogatory and intimidating and shameful TO BE CALLED a “Heretic”.
However the FACT IS: A “Heretic”, is a person WHO “believed and followed along with a “particular” groups ... preaching, teaching, doctrines, traditions...
And THEN STOPPED.
Personally, I never Followed, preaching, teaching, doctrines, traditions OF a Group Calling themselves “Catholic”, or their meeting places, Called “CATHOLIC Churches”...
IF you did, then stopped, being called “a heretic”, simply is notification,
You have come to REJECT Catholic preaching, teaching, doctrines, traditions AS a viable means for you to accept.
IF you Never followed a Catholic preaching, teaching, doctrine, tradition...being CALLED a “heretic”, BY a Catholic, is a False accusation.
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Identifying oneself as a CHRISTIAN, simply means, the individual is PRESENTLY believing Jesus IS the Christ.
It DOES NOT “automatically” mean, one has heartfully CONFESSED their True Belief TO the Lord God...(which is HOW an individual BECOMES “CONVERTED”, effected BY the POWER and WORKS of God)....WHO thereafter would “expressly” Identify oneself AS A “Converted Christian”...or “BORN AGAIN Christian”.
Some people...ignore the “specifics” IN Scripture....expressly the terms;
“Born Again”....or “Converted”....and instead use a dull general term that has no “specific” meaning.....of such term being “a TRUE Christian”...
Using “non specific man-made up terms”...can certainly make “Christianity”...
Appear “wishy washy”. And to many “foreigners”, generationally steeped in Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, etc., Christianity IS confusing, especially when using “man made up” general terms.
Earburner
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If you really think that I am dodging the issue, then you already have an answer to it, and you are only fishing, hoping for a bite at your artificial bait.
Sorry! It is I who knows the real food, but you are not hearing what I write.
So, heres the comparison for all to eat and digest: KJV Matthew 13:24-30, specifically
[25] But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
1 Timothy 3:15 "....the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
Now, since you apparently do have an answer to 1 Tim. 3:15, let's discover who in the church of the living God, according to Mat. 13:4-30, ARE the "wheat", and therefore ARE the "pillar and ground of THE Truth", who is Jesus.
Again please use 1 Peter 2:9 as a reference.
Earburner
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amigo de christo
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Heritical doctrine can infect the entire lump if it is not purged out fast .
And as paul once said ,there words do eat as a chancor to the soul . Thus let all who names the name of JESUS CHRIST
flee heretical teachings and correct any and all who might believe in them .
amigo de christo
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And if a church allows heretical teachings into the church that church will become infected and leavened in short time .
We must do all to purge out false teachings and keep bible sound doctrine at the forefront of all that we do teach and say .
amigo de christo
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False teachings will destroy the soul of all who sits under and heeds it .
Therefore purge out all false doctrine before it leavens the whole lump .
amigo de christo
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Christ is the one who saves the individual . But if we are seated under Christ , His sheep hear HIS voice
and the voice of a stranger they will flee , they will not heed or follow the voices of those who are not of Christ .
Sound doctrine matters .
JohnPaul
Soldier of Jehovah and Christ
That’s what is wrong with many Churches today, they twist the Bible to their own interpretation therefore corrupting it. It’s why I stopped going to Church, my heart and soul are with God and Jesus Christ.
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