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[Truther]

I don't know if he's a "chameleon" - but he would have had to confess that if he were Catholic.
Idolatry is a grave sin.

....says the Catholic whose church bldg and house is wall to wall graven images of heavenly saints.

 

[Truther]

Dunno - what are the graven images of your wife and kids telling YOU?

We are not in the graven image business, but I will leave that to the RCC statuary-ists.

 

[mjrhealth]

I see that my sarcasm went WAAAAYYY over your head.
That's unfortunate . . .

Nah good thing no mud in my face that way. But its good to know you think we are all smart just like Einstein, Thanks

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nah good thing no mud in my face that way. But its good to know you think we are all smart just like Einstein, Thanks

Oh, don't worry. I don't.
That was just sarcasm that went waaaaaayyyy over your head.

 

[BreadOfLife]

We are not in the graven image business, but I will leave that to the RCC statuary-ists.

Your Driver's license is a graven image, sparky.

Every picture of your kids and your family, every statue or print or painting on the walls of your home, every every little birdie in your garden, every yard gnome, every game piece in your monopoly set, etc. Those are ALL graven images, my hypocritical friend . . .

 

[mjrhealth]

Oh, don't worry. I don't.
That was just sarcasm that went waaaaaayyyy over your head.

Nah you just finally admitted the truth. Must of being hard.

 

[BreadOfLife]

....says the Catholic whose church bldg and house is wall to wall graven images of heavenly saints.

Besides a depiction of Christ, there is a statue of Mary and of Joseph.
Ummmmmmm, HARDLY a "wall-to-wall" display, my dishonest friend . . .

 

[historyb]

Translation:
"I stuck my foot in my mouth again - and I can't get it out."

Next time, try to present some actual evidence, sparky . . .

People like him or not able to produce real evidence, Their inbuilt bias and prejudice won't allow them.

 

[Truther]

Besides a depiction of Christ, there is a statue of Mary and of Joseph.
Ummmmmmm, HARDLY a "wall-to-wall" display, my dishonest friend . . .

How about that scapular graven image hanging around your neck?

 

[quietthinker]

I don't know if he's a "chameleon" - but he would have had to confess that if he were Catholic.
Idolatry is a grave sin.

The reference was not about Truther!

 

[Truther]

Your Driver's license is a graven image, sparky.

Every picture of your kids and your family, every statue or print or painting on the walls of your home, every every little birdie in your garden, every yard gnome, every game piece in your monopoly set, etc. Those are ALL graven images, my hypocritical friend . . .

Prayer/devotions towards ANY image makes it idolatry.....you know that....as you kneel before the statue of Mary, begging for her help, and the infant son that she commands...


4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above..

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them....

 

[BreadOfLife]

How about that scapular graven image hanging around your neck?

How about thise graven images of you and your wife on your wedding day?

 

[BreadOfLife]

The reference was not about Truther!

Hmmmm, maybe you would like to explain how I am an "idolator", then?
Or, is it just another case of an ignorant anti-Catholic spouting off?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Prayer/devotions towards ANY image makes it idolatry.....you know that....as you kneel before the statue of Mary, begging for her help, and the infant son that she commands...
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above..
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them....

Just like you to cherry-pick the Word of God. Most Scripturally-ignorant people do..
Now - let’s read the ENTIRE Commandment:

Exod. 20:2-6
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to THEM or serve THEM, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

You see, sparky – this commandment is about the WORSHIP of images as gods – not the making of images.

As I schooled you earlier – if MAKING images was wrong – then God Himself was wrong for commanding Moses to make 2 GOLDEN CHERUBIM to place atop the Ark and a BRONZE SERPENT to place on a pole so that when the people gazed upon it, they would be healed.

Unlike YOU – God is not a hypocrite.
Dude – you REALLY need to study your Bible . . .

 

[Truther]

Just like you to cherry-pick the Word of God. Most Scripturally-ignorant people do..
Now - let’s read the ENTIRE Commandment:

Exod. 20:2-6
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to THEM or serve THEM, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

You see, sparky – this commandment is about the WORSHIP of images as gods – not the making of images.

As I schooled you earlier – if MAKING images was wrong – then God Himself was wrong for commanding Moses to make 2 GOLDEN CHERUBIM to place atop the Ark and a BRONZE SERPENT to place on a pole so that when the people gazed upon it, they would be healed.

Unlike YOU – God is not a hypocrite.
Dude – you REALLY need to study your Bible . . .

...as the Roman Catholic bows down to the carved statue Mary, the "queen of heaven", this morning, saying..."Mary, please tell your son to do this and that today"...

Then quotes the RCC version of Timothy...."for there is one God in three persons, and one mediator between the Trinity and Jesus, Mary, the mother of God the son....."


LOL

 

[Truther]

How about thise graven images of you and your wife on your wedding day?

Boy, she looked like Farrah Fawcett.

God sure engraved me an image!....

 

[BreadOfLife]

...as the Roman Catholic bows down to the carved statue Mary, the "queen of heaven", this morning, saying..."Mary, please tell your son to do this and that today"...
Then quotes the RCC version of Timothy...."for there is one God in three persons, and one mediator between the Trinity and Jesus, Mary, the mother of God the son....."
LOL

Yup - asking Mary to pray for me is no different than asking any other member of the Body of Christ to pray for m.
Ummmmm, when did she get kicked OUT of the Body of Christ?

Do you have a copy of that memo, because I never got it . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Boy, she looked like Farrah Fawcett.

God sure engraved me an image!....

Yup - and it's just as "sinful" (or not) as ANY image in the Catholic Church.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The reference was not about Truther!

Hmmmm, maybe you would like to explain how I am an "idolator", then?
Or, is it just another case of an ignorant anti-Catholic spouting off?

CRICKETS . . .

That's what I thought.

 

[Truther]

Yup - and it's just as "sinful" (or not) as ANY image in the Catholic Church.

A wife that looks like Farrah Fawcett is sinful?

Only to the one that wishes he married her....