Is Homosexuality And Christianity, Orthodox And Compatible?

[Triumph1300]

One Unforgivable Sin, And that is attribute Evil to the [ Holy Spirit] Which would be to Blaspheme the Holy Spirit!

Correct.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I understand, Sodom was a place where it was so bad that the Cry of those that had been Defiled was Greater than any where else, that is why God said that He had heard their Cry, people would come there to do business and they were Mercifully, Defiled and then probably killed!!! SICK!! I understand, And you said that Sin is Sin and you are right, for there is But One Unforgivable Sin, And that is attribute Evil to the [ Holy Spirit] Which would be to Blaspheme the Holy Spirit!

There are 7 abominations of sin....

7 Abominable Sins

"Though some would have you believe that sin is sin, and all are the same, the bible would beg to differ. Though any kind of unrepentant sin can send one to hell, the bible speaks of one kind of sin that God referred to by a different name: It was called an Abomination.

There are some things which are said to be abominable to the Lord Prov. 6:16-19 The word “abominable” refers to something which is extremely despised. Therefore, there are some things which God hates extremely."

Proverbs 6:16-19
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.


Twice lying is mentioned....a lying tongue and a false witness that speaketh lies....look up the scripture that says the most powerful weapon ever created is the tongue.....more wars have started with words.


Conclusively God hates sin and deplores all such who commit it. Thanks be unto God which sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 1 Jn 4:10 Thanks be unto God which gives us the victory through Christ Jesus when we become obedient to the gospel of Christ. 1 Cor 15:57 If we are willing to turn from our sins and repent, God is willing to forgive us our sins, even our abominable sins. Acts 17:30; 1 Jn 1:9

 

[Truth7t7]

Is this teaching from the Universalism church doctrine? Please don't insult God with this complete and total false doctrine about His Word....Are you aware of why God is very adamant about teaching us to avoid lusts and fornication, adultery, sexual immorality? Spiritual soul ties...you become as one flesh.....so if someone is out there fornicating with someone different every weekend then they are becoming very bound up in ties to many souls and some aren't so nice....demonic in fact. Homosexuality is a strong demonic spirit that places strongholds on people and they become bound to the lust of their flesh or desires being deceived into believing this is something they were born with....go read some testimonies of many who have been delivered and set free of homosexual desires.

Amen, A+++!

 

[bbyrd009]

Marriage Is

well i hope you understand i would no more condone that behavior than what you are doing, both are venal sins imo, but if i'm supposed to forgive you, then i'm supposed to forgive them too i guess right.

you might reflect on atrazine in the water supply and unfermented soy jammed up every orifice, on top of the various other stresses that we will be called to account for in this scenario imo. Bam judge if you like ok, but i have to maintain that there is a spiritual symbology used at "male" and "female," and "homosexuality" is being employed as a proxy for going spiritually astray.

now are many homosexuals spiritually astray? I gotta say almost surely, the hedonist types definitely, but this does not describe every gay person either. Nor does it dictate any change in my expected behavior toward them imo.

You are forgiven, ok. When you forgive

so hopefully you might see that their sin is not going to mitigate your lack of forgiveness. I'll take a humble gay over a judgemental wasp any day of the week, and prolly you would too?

 

[bbyrd009]

Is this teaching from the Universalism church doctrine? Please don't insult God with this complete and total false doctrine about His Word....Are you aware of why God is very adamant about teaching us to avoid lusts and fornication, adultery, sexual immorality? Spiritual soul ties...you become as one flesh.....so if someone is out there fornicating with someone different every weekend then they are becoming very bound up in ties to many souls and some aren't so nice....demonic in fact. Homosexuality is a strong demonic spirit that places strongholds on people and they become bound to the lust of their flesh or desires being deceived into believing this is something they were born with....go read some testimonies of many who have been delivered and set free of homosexual desires.

well put imo

 

[bbyrd009]

You write 'burned in lust of the same sex' when the scripture says they 'burned in their heart' and later 'toward' one another.
Try as many might, they won't find a weapon in Romans 1 to use against the lgbt community.

ppl who seek enemies are going to find enemies, best to just let them i guess

 

[bbyrd009]

The Bible story of the destruction of that area of the Middle East has been found to be just that. A story. Yes, that area was destroyed, but by a giant asteroid in approx. 3400 B.C. That is about 1400 years before Abraham was even born. We found out by finally being able to decipher the Sumerian Disc (Star Map).

i guess the evidence was also carbon dated. Doesn't mean they weren't destroyed for the exact reasons listed in the Book tho i guess? The sins of Sodom

The Homosexual Men Of Sodom Wanted The Male Angels, The Were Examples To Manking And God's Voice Concerning Homosexuality!

the sins of Sodom are listed, and your complaint is not among them; why do you think this is?

God compares Jerusalem to Sodom, saying "Sodom never did what you and your daughters have done." He explains that the sin of Sodom was that "She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."

 

[bbyrd009]

the..."value" of homosexuality as a population reduction measure should also be considered here imo

and i guess everyone here knows who is into pop reduction right
same bunch who are invested in keeping us divided.
so see how that works on two levels for that agenda

so imo i would be careful not to find myself buying the soy candles and the corn (also up every single orifice) that promote the use of atrazine on the one hand, while condemning the (inevitable?) byproduct on the other, lest you be found a bigger hypocrite than those who think dollars are money

 

[Helen]

@bbyrd009 Good posts !

 

[Coffee2018]

I see what I call 'scriptural ignorance' on just about every website. Christians that don't have the nerve to go on Formal Debate sites and see if their understanding holds up to scrutiny. This is how one learns. This is what pleases the Lord. Not being to proud to be shown up.
Here is a classic example of epidemic Biblical ignorance. This is deliberate on so many scholars part; Translating the Koine Greek word into English as 'sexual immorality. This word originated in pagan prostitution where they would conduct their business under the 'arch (Latin-ancient Roman) meaning. In the Greek it was translated as 'pornia'. The 1st century understanding of this word was that it meant to conduct religious worship with the pagan temple prostitutes (male or female) to their gods and goddesses.
It is terrible error to take this Koine Greek word out of it's 1st century meaning and attempt to use it in today's setting. As we have seen, Christian preachers and teachers have used this word as a weapon against a woman wearing her dress above the ankles, wearing dresses with straps, masturbation, French kissing, looking at the Sports Illustrated Swim Suit edition, watching R rated movies, etc, etc. The meaning changes constantly. What was fornication 20 or more years ago is not fornication today. This is so wrong, so unscriptural that I am sure a 3rd grader could figure it out if he or she we're presented with the same information we have.

 

[Stranger]

I see what I call 'scriptural ignorance' on just about every website. Christians that don't have the nerve to go on Formal Debate sites and see if their understanding holds up to scrutiny. This is how one learns. This is what pleases the Lord. Not being to proud to be shown up.
Here is a classic example of epidemic Biblical ignorance. This is deliberate on so many scholars part; Translating the Koine Greek word into English as 'sexual immorality. This word originated in pagan prostitution where they would conduct their business under the 'arch (Latin-ancient Roman) meaning. In the Greek it was translated as 'pornia'. The 1st century understanding of this word was that it meant to conduct religious worship with the pagan temple prostitutes (male or female) to their gods and goddesses.
It is terrible error to take this Koine Greek word out of it's 1st century meaning and attempt to use it in today's setting. As we have seen, Christian preachers and teachers have used this word as a weapon against a woman wearing her dress above the ankles, wearing dresses with straps, masturbation, French kissing, looking at the Sports Illustrated Swim Suit edition, watching R rated movies, etc, etc. The meaning changes constantly. What was fornication 20 or more years ago is not fornication today. This is so wrong, so unscriptural that I am sure a 3rd grader could figure it out if he or she we're presented with the same information we have.

Homosexualtiy is an abomination before God. There is no compatibility with it in Christianity. When it is allowed in a society it is evidence that the society is dying or dead, like maggots on a carcass.

Stranger

 

[Coffee2018]

Most Christians are not even aware that there are 3 different ancient Hebrew words that are deliberately untranslated in the English as 'abomination'.
The word that describes the most negative reaction from God is the ancient Hebrew word (towebah). It means 'things made impure and illicit by decrees of religion, things belonging to the worship of idols and of idols theselves'. This word is found in about 90% of the Old Testament translated as 'abomination into English.
The next word mistranslated into English as abomination is the ancient Hebrew word (sheqets) and this word is the lesser relating to idols and means 'of unclean persons and things of idolatry.
The 3rd and last word [and this is the word nearly every Christian thinks is the only ancient Hebrew word in the Old Testament for abomination] is (shiqquwts) this word is only found in a few OT passages and it means 'of impure things such as flesh or garments'.

 

[Enoch111]

Is Homosexuality And Christianity, Orthodox And Compatible?

There's nothing to discuss. You have provided the appropriate Scripture and homosexuals (and all sexual perverts and all sinners) must repent and be born again to enter into the Kingdom of God.

 

[Willie T]

I see what I call 'scriptural ignorance' on just about every website. Christians that don't have the nerve to go on Formal Debate sites and see if their understanding holds up to scrutiny. This is how one learns. This is what pleases the Lord. Not being to proud to be shown up.
Here is a classic example of epidemic Biblical ignorance. This is deliberate on so many scholars part; Translating the Koine Greek word into English as 'sexual immorality. This word originated in pagan prostitution where they would conduct their business under the 'arch (Latin-ancient Roman) meaning. In the Greek it was translated as 'pornia'. The 1st century understanding of this word was that it meant to conduct religious worship with the pagan temple prostitutes (male or female) to their gods and goddesses.
It is terrible error to take this Koine Greek word out of it's 1st century meaning and attempt to use it in today's setting. As we have seen, Christian preachers and teachers have used this word as a weapon against a woman wearing her dress above the ankles, wearing dresses with straps, masturbation, French kissing, looking at the Sports Illustrated Swim Suit edition, watching R rated movies, etc, etc. The meaning changes constantly. What was fornication 20 or more years ago is not fornication today. This is so wrong, so unscriptural that I am sure a 3rd grader could figure it out if he or she we're presented with the same information we have.

I feel the same way about the way we have abused the word, "REPENT."

 

[amadeus]

No it's not.
Sin is sin.
Repentance is repentance.

Yes, you are correct on each point, but people will disagree upon and argue about what "sin" is and what "repentance" is.

I, of course, am sure I am right about this and that, but quite certainly most everyone else here, of course, also is sure that they are right about this and that.

 

[Stranger]

Most Christians are not even aware that there are 3 different ancient Hebrew words that are deliberately untranslated in the English as 'abomination'.
The word that describes the most negative reaction from God is the ancient Hebrew word (towebah). It means 'things made impure and illicit by decrees of religion, things belonging to the worship of idols and of idols theselves'. This word is found in about 90% of the Old Testament translated as 'abomination into English.
The next word mistranslated into English as abomination is the ancient Hebrew word (sheqets) and this word is the lesser relating to idols and means 'of unclean persons and things of idolatry.
The 3rd and last word [and this is the word nearly every Christian thinks is the only ancient Hebrew word in the Old Testament for abomination] is (shiqquwts) this word is only found in a few OT passages and it means 'of impure things such as flesh or garments'.

What a coward.

Play your linguistic gymnastics elsewhere. You can't get away from the teaching of Scripture that homosexuality is an abomination to God. A gross sin.

You're playing the fool.

Stranger

 

[amadeus]

I see what I call 'scriptural ignorance' on just about every website. Christians that don't have the nerve to go on Formal Debate sites and see if their understanding holds up to scrutiny. This is how one learns. This is what pleases the Lord. Not being to proud to be shown up.

Does it take "nerve" to stand for what we believe or does it simply require trusting in God.

"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths." Prov 3:5-6

Formal debate sites may present some good things, but participation in them is certainly not necessary for every person to walk closer to God... that is to grow closer to God. As to being how one learns, I would go slower on that one. Consider what Jesus said here:

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26

What pleases God is NOT study alone, for sure. What pleases God is that we love Him and this certainly requires more than simply saying, "I love you God".

The best students are not necessarily those who walk closest to God. I would say rather that those who continuously and sincerely surrender to God on every point are the ones who would be the ones who walk closest.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, you are correct on each point, but people will disagree upon and argue about what "sin" is and what "repentance" is.

I, of course, am sure I am right about this and that, but quite certainly most everyone else here, of course, also is sure that they are right about this and that.

Luke 15:10KJV
Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.

Luke 24:47KJV
And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

 

[bbyrd009]

You might as well include all the monsters who have brought grief to millions (including MS-13).

It means you have a strange view of what the Kingdom of God means. But Scripture makes it very clear

yes; 20all go to the same place
19you and your sons will be here with me
19he who does these things and teaches others to do them will be considered least in the kingdom

 

[aspen]

Here is a method I like to rely on when I start getting overly involved in my neighbor’s business.....

1. It’s not my business.
2. God’s in charge

With regard to homosexuality:

1. Like CS Lewis, I try to make a habit of not condemning people for commiting sin I, myself, am not tempted by.
2. I have never met a homosexual person who does not know about the scripture in the Bible, used to separate them from the Body of Christ, and i hate it when people yammer on about the same topics so i considered the topic covered.