John Owen and arminianism

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“Next to the study of the Scriptures which I earnestly inculcate, I exhort my pupils to peruse Calvin's Commentaries, which I extol in loftier terms than Helmich himself (a Dutch divine, 1551-1608]; for I affirm that he excels beyond comparison (incomparabilem esse) in the interpretation of Scripture, and that his commentaries ought to be more highly valued than all that is handed down to us by the library of the fathers; so that I acknowledge him to have possessed above most others, or rather above all other men, what may be called an eminent spirit of prophecy (spiritum aliquem prophetiae eximium). His Institutes ought to be studied after the [Heidelberg] Catechism, as containing a fuller explanation, but with discrimination ( cum delectu), like the writings of all men."

-- James Arminius (1560-1609)



J. Matthew Pinson says: “ Those who bring their own presuppositions into the study of Arminius and read later Arminian themes into his thought fail to realize perhaps the most important thing about his theology: that it is distinctively Reformed. It is a development of Reformed theology rather than a departure from it “ In the same tomne, William Pauck writes , “ The Arminians [and thus Arminius] belong as definitely to the Calvinistic tradition as the defenders of the decisions of the Synod of Dort”.


Arminius letter to Hippolytus a Collibus, in 1608: “I confidently declare that I have never taught anything, either in the church or in the university, which contravenes the sacred writings that ought to be with us the sole rule of thinking and of speaking, or which is opposed to the Belgic Confession or to the Heidelberg Catechism, that are our stricter formularies of consent. “In his Declaration of Sentiments that same year, Arminius challenged anyone to prove that he had ever said anything “in conflict with either the Word of God or the Confession of the Dutch Churches.


”Arminius lived and died with complete loyalty to the Heidelberg Catechism and the Belgic Confession of Faith.
Read Arminian and Baptist Online by J. Matthew Pinson | Books


Picirilli states, “Those who read him carefully know well that he did not make saving faith a work, that he affirmed that God’s grace is to be credited entirely with anyone’s salvation from beginning to end. He was no Pelagian, as he took pains to make clear” [15]. To illustrate this point, let’s consider Arminius himself: “The free will of man towards the true good is not only wounded, maimed, infirm, bent and weakened; but it is also imprisoned, destroyed, and lost: And its powers are not only debilitated and useless unless they are assisted by grace, but it has no powers whatever except such are excited by grace” [16]. In reference to claims of semi-Pelagianism, Pinson observes,


Most Reformed critics have portrayed Arminius as a semi-Pelagian and a defector from Reformed theology. Most Arminians, both Wesleyans and Remonstrants, have cast him in Wesleyan or Remonstrant terms, failing to take seriously his theology itself and the context in which it was spawned. Both these perspectives have seriously misunderstood Arminius, using him for polemical purposes rather than simply trying to understand and benefit from his theology [17].

Another large misconception concerning Arminius’ theology is his view of the atonement. Some have wrongly attributed a governmental view of atonement to Arminius. As stated earlier, Arminius posited a penal-substitutionary view of the atonement. Instead, it was Arminius’ follower Hugo Grotius who espoused the governmental view of atonement. And since this view has gained “Arminian” adherents through the years (including Charles Finney, James H. Fairchild, John Miley, and H. Orton Miley), it has led many to believe that Arminius subscribed to this view [18]. However, Arminius himself in no way held this view.


Furthermore, within self-identified Arminianism are two competing schools: Classical Arminianism and Wesleyan Arminianism [19]. As the name suggests, Wesleyan Arminianism is merely an adaptation of Arminius’ teachings by John Wesley. Hence, as careful students of history and theology, we mustn’t impose Wesley’s interpretation of Arminius upon the reformer himself. On the other hand, Classical Arminianism seeks to embody the actual teachings of Arminius himself—hence the term Classical or even Reformed [20].


Conclusion


Calvinism and Arminianism: the debate will likely continue. And throughout this month the Helwys Society Forum will consider other themes of Arminius’ theology including the Fall/human condition, prevenient grace, and sanctification.


Nevertheless, it is my hope that these truths have shed light on how two men, decided on Scripture’s sufficiency, partnered in the Protestant Reformation. While they did not agree with each other on all points of theology, they each sought to extol Scripture’s truths as the sufficient Word of God.Arminius and Calvin: Partners in Reform - Helwys Society Forum


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John Owen: Reformed theology and arminianism cannot dwell together.
Very true. But those are not the only options available to Christians. There is a third option which is "Biblicism" -- ignoring all the theological nonsense and going directly to the Bible itself.

Owen suggests that sinners have nothing to do with being saved (certainly not as "the chief part", which is a red herring). But the Lord Jesus Christ refutes that nonsense in John chapter 3:14-21:

DID THE ISRAELITES HAVE TO LOOK IN ORDER TO BE SAVED?
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

DO SINNERS HAVE TO BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST TO BE SAVED?
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

DOES GOD WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO BE SAVED?
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

DOES ONE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN ORDER TO NOT BE CONDEMNED?
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

DO SOME LOVE DARKNESS RATHER THAN LIGHT?
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

So, as we can see, John Owen was contradicting Christ. We should pay careful attention to every word of Christ recorded in the Bible, and simply ignore all the theologians, whether Reformed or Arminian.
 
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Very true. But those are not the only options available to Christians. There is a third option which is "Biblicism" -- ignoring all the theological nonsense and going directly to the Bible itself.

Owen suggests that sinners have nothing to do with being saved (certainly not as "the chief part", which is a red herring). But the Lord Jesus Christ refutes that nonsense in John chapter 3:14-21:

DID THE ISRAELITES HAVE TO LOOK IN ORDER TO BE SAVED?
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

DO SINNERS HAVE TO BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST TO BE SAVED?
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

DOES GOD WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO BE SAVED?
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

DOES ONE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN ORDER TO NOT BE CONDEMNED?
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

DO SOME LOVE DARKESS RATHER THAN LIGHT?
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

So, as we can see, John Owen was contradicting Christ. We should pay careful attention to every word of Christ recorded in the Bible, and simply ignore all the theologians, whether Reformed or Arminian.

you say the third option is Biblicism, and i would agree, but some of us know it by a different name, Calvinism. But i disagree with your notion that sinners have some part in getting saved. The doctrine of Election is Biblical, and the extent with what man can do as far as salvation goes, is only to understand that If God the Father calls on him, he will be saved.
John calvin didnt create or make up calvinism, he merely was the reformer that bundled up in a small package what the Bible had already said. Back in the day, john didnt use nor approve calling what he had wrote out as calvinism, that was done only by the catholics and arminianists. But it stuck, the TULIP caught on, and so we use it to show that we are in agreement with the Bible.
 

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Very true. But those are not the only options available to Christians. There is a third option which is "Biblicism" -- ignoring all the theological nonsense and going directly to the Bible itself.

Owen suggests that sinners have nothing to do with being saved (certainly not as "the chief part", which is a red herring). But the Lord Jesus Christ refutes that nonsense in John chapter 3:14-21:

DID THE ISRAELITES HAVE TO LOOK IN ORDER TO BE SAVED?
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

DO SINNERS HAVE TO BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST TO BE SAVED?
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

DOES GOD WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO BE SAVED?
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

DOES ONE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN ORDER TO NOT BE CONDEMNED?
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

DO SOME LOVE DARKNESS RATHER THAN LIGHT?
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

So, as we can see, John Owen was contradicting Christ. We should pay careful attention to every word of Christ recorded in the Bible, and simply ignore all the theologians, whether Reformed or Arminian.

Amen. Even a good theologian can be wrong sometimes. Better to go to the source.
 
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If it was about preaching and teaching Scripture truth both to the lost and to believers seeking to grow in the Lord, then I don't see how Aquinas and the like can be much help.

Why not? It is said Acquinas reconciled Aristotle to Christ, not the other way around. Therefore, the lost might be found by following the logic that Aquinas layed down.
 

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John calvin didnt create or make up calvinism, he merely was the reformer that bundled up in a small package what the Bible had already said.
The doctrine of Election is Biblical, and the extent with what man can do as far as salvation goes, is only to understand that If God the Father calls on him, he will be saved.
You did not pay any attention to the words of Christ in John 3:17. So let's take another look at that verse: For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Now if God wants to save the world, then He would call on ALL to be saved. Indeed all would be elected for salvation. But that is not how it works. The Gospel must be preached to all and only those who obey the Gospel will be saved. But you are simply ignoring this truth as well as the words of Christ. That is not Biblicism.

Also you should read some of Calvin's commentaries on actual verses. They contradict his theology, yet he failed to hold on to what he had rightly interpreted. Just take his commentary on John 1:29 (found on Bible Hub) and you tell us what he says there (and you may not change what he has stated).
 
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