101G said:
2 a4,
Matt 28:19
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
baptizing them in the name, notice no "s" at the end of NAME, meaning only ONE NAME, which is ONE PERSON. Jesus is the name of the title Father, Jesus is the name of the title Son, Jesus is the name of the Holy Spirit. SAME PERSON.
1 John 5:7
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
titles of the Same Person
And in case you don't accept 1 John 5:7 in the KJV and prefer to use "There are 3 who testify" The Spirit the water and the blood
1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
sister do you know what the Water, Blood, and spirit is?. a person, ONE PERSON. water is the flesh, which make up 90% of the body, and the blood is the life of the flesh, and the spirit give us being. these, these, these, three is a person. not they, but these. see it now?. lets prove that this is a person. 1 John 5:6 "This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. (a body with blood). And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth".
I rest my case.
I'll take this up tomorrow
I have no idea of what you are trying to prove to me.
Do you think that I do not believe that Jesus (The Living Word) was born in the flesh by the Spirit of God? That a physical body was prepared for him in the likeness of flesh and blood as his brothers of the natural? Jesus is God's Eternal Word who agreed to take on a flesh body and is God's only begotten Son. The Word is Spirit, The Father is Spirit, The Holy Ghost is Spirit they are One God for God is all aspects of family being Male and Female yet we know Him as Male for there are no reproduction organs in heaven nor flesh and blood bodies.
Jesus when he was resurrected was bone and flesh for he did not need a blood support system for his body is incorruptible it is our bloodline that makes of good or bad in nature for it contains the spiritman that can be contaminated.
Luke 24:40
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see;
for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
KJV
Our spirit man I believe is our free will and can be manipulated to follow either God's Spirit or the enemies unclean ways. For to be spiritually birthed is not in the same fashion of course as being physically birthed.
We to are being made children of God by the Spirit & the Word indwelling us guiding our spirit man to be of a good bloodline.
Jesus was given a flesh and blood body of sinful flesh just as we have, for he had to be totally human in order to fulfill the law legally, for he could not fulfill it as God or that would have not been a fair exchange. His bloodline was not of sinful man in the line of Joseph for the blood comes from the seed of the father, the spirit of a man RESIDES in the blood that is why it is called the life of the flesh, Jesus did not have the bloodline of fallen Joseph's fallen spirit, but was given pure blood with a clean spirit led by the Holy Ghost who is the mother aspect of God that raises the children of God up.
Rom 8:3-4
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh,
God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
KJV
Phil 2:7-8
7 But made himself of no reputation,
and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And
being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
KJV
It was not the Father whom the Father forsook on the cross to die. The Father forsook His Word of the fleshly law on the cross, so that He could raise His Word/Son back up in His original condition of the 10 commandments we call THE STONE.... that the builders of the temple rejected so their temple was corrupted, because men stumble when trying to keep the Word of God without the Spirit of God to help them. Jesus is the Stone, the Cornerstone of the temple of God and every living stone must be built according to the Word of God who is the foundation of the temple of God.
1 John 5:6-8
6 This is he that came by
water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood{Meaning natural birth}. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record
in heaven,
the Father,
the Word{JESUS}, and
the Holy Ghost: and
these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness
in earth, the spirit{Our spirit man lead by God's Spirit}, and the water{Our body by the living water}, and the blood{Our life where the spirit man resides}: and these three agree in one.KJV
One body that contains spirit, soul and body, 3, made in the image of God, Let US make man in our image
1 Thess 5:23
23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and
I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
KJV
101G said:
a4,
The Father is over His Word but Jesus is the voice and Word of God and his voice is described as many waters and as a trumpet
I suggest you read Isaiah 9:6 again "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace". this child, this son is the Father, and the mightyGod.
If you just keep in mind that Jesus is the Word of life that the Father created everything with and by and the Holy Spirit is the wisdom of God who was with Him in the beginning as was the Word with Him in the beginning, then maybe you can understand that all of them are one God.
you said that the Holy Spirit is the wisdom of God?. the Lord Jesus is the wisdom and the power. 1 Corinthians 1:22 "For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God". sister it is inescapable, Jesus the Christ is God in flesh. now let see the clear revelation, Jesus the Christ is the Holy Spirit in Flesh & blood. see it now?. .
The Spirit teaches us the revelation of The Word and just as the Bread of life, Word of life proceedeth from the Father, so does the Spirit of life/truth.
that's right the SAME Spirit.
you gave the scripture, revelation chapter 5. He who sit is he who stand.
I understand that the Father and His Word and the Holy Ghost are all one God and one Spirit and that God is male and female in attributes. So now that you have understood that Jesus is the wisdom and power of God for he is the Word of God and wisdom is gained by revelation of God's Word by the Spirit of truth, of the Word being AT/ON/IS the right Hand of God that the Father creates everything with and that the wisdom is called HER and was next to the Father when He created the worlds.
Heb 11:3
3 Through faith w
e understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
KJV
Now read of Her, wisdom of God's Word that was by God's side as the worlds were created and remember Jesus is the door:
Prov 8:1-9:1
8:1 Doth not
wisdom cry? and
understanding put forth her voice?
2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
3
She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
5 O ye simple,
understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
6 Hear; for
I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
7
For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8 A
ll the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
10 R
eceive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
11
For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15
By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17
I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
22
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths,
I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills
was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27
When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30
Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
32
Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
34
Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my
doors.
35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
KJV
In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God!