Misunderstanding Paul with Tovia Singer

[Episkopos]

The claims of Tovia Singer against both the New Testament and Christianity are easily refuted by any apologist. Not being an apologist myself, but rather being motivated by a concern for sound doctrine within the Church, I submit this commentary/teaching meant to refute any mischaracterization of Paul, something that happens both outside the Church and within it.

 

[Episkopos]

People, believers included, tend to respect credentials...human credentials... as if these qualify a person to represent God. But God doesn't choose what men choose. God has another way. His ways are much higher, and deeper than the ways of men. Men look outwardly...but God looks inwardly. Many will affirm this without thinking it out seriously. So they continue to follow others unquestioningly...because they become popular.

Interpreting the truth OUT of the bible is the front line of hireling ministers...decoy ministers ...that rely on the respect and credibility of those who superficially want the bible defended...sort of...in order to keep their place in the order of things. Many become indoctrinated into falsehoods that give them what they want...a crafted pseudo religion that they can affirm in their still-carnal minds.

But the word speaks for itself... bad translations notwithstanding.

Do we trust men? Or God? Do we have the faith to go against convention when the truth is taking us elsewhere?

 

[Behold]

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Reader Let me show you how Paul explains : Justification

1.) Its "God who Justifies" based on what He created/offers as the Justification,= being Imputed through Faith.

"Grade through Faith".

This is the Sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross.. , which is God's Grace and God's Justification who is "The Gift of Salvaiton"

Jesus IS Salvation.
Jesus is Eternal Life..
.... and when you have Jesus in you... "Christ in you the Hope of Glory) (Glory is heaven) then you are "One with God" , In Christ, and born again.

2.) The ONLY proof of being born again, is that You have Jesus in you.. = You are now in Spiritual Union, with God and Christ

See,..., "if YOU have not the Spirit of Christ in you, then you are none of His". (None of Christ's and none of God's).

And,... "Christ IS That Spirit" and "God is A Spirit"... and that is why all the born again are become "The Temple of The HOLY Spirit".

See that Reader?

Now when this Eternal BLOOD Sacrifice, who is Christ on The Cross.... is applied to a believer, based on their FAITH that is "counted by God, as "righteousness", ...... we see that this Sacrifice of Christ, is the only JUSTIFICATION that God offers anyone. And Jesus refers to this as "I am THE WAY to the Father"... John 14:6, .. = "No person comes to the Father but by ME"..

And "BY ME"= The Cross of Christ.. "Justification by Faith".

3.) So, once a person has BELIEVED, then God counts/accepts their faith, by receiving it to then Justify them through the Cross of Christ as this is the Eternal Justification., that is Eternal REDEMPTION.

Now this BELIEVER = , who is now Justified, Sanctified, and Redeemed by the Blood and Death of Jesus, has become a "New Creation" in Christ"..... born again.

And having become so, is a Eternal Reality., as becoming a CHRISTian is, = born again = is completed.

4.) This is why all the born again are BECOME, .. not later, but have BECOME :

1.) Heir of God
2.) Joint Heir with Jesus
3.) Temple of the Holy Spirit
4a.) The Righteousness of God in Christ.


Now, look again at #4a Reader...

If you are born again, then you are become a "new Creation, IN Christ""... so you abide there...you exist there, having been "Translated from Darkness (unbelief) .... TO Light." = The KOG.

This Light is the KOG... This Light is "God exists IN Light".. And """"Jesus is the LIGHT of the World""" and all the born again are become "Children OF the Light".

See how all that is ONE ??

5.) Now, Heretics, teach that you are still trying to make it. You are in the work of trying to abide there....

When the Reality is, you are already there having been born again there, and now are defined as a : "Child of the Light".

So, to be that one, you have become "MADE Righteous", or you could not be in the KOG as a "Child of Light."

And this brings us to the reason that the pre-incarnate Word came down here, and was Virgin born, and died on The Cross and is now risen and in Heaven.

Jesus came here to deal with the Law that was defining you as a sinner, and dealt with it., and that is why the born again are "not under the Law.....but under Grace".

Jesus became your sin bearer, so that you can become "The righteousness of God.. In Christ" = Born again.
= Jesus provided His sinless life on the Cross so that God could give it to you, as "The Righteousness of God, in Christ".. as :

= "THE Gift of Righteousness" ..

Being Born again, PROVES you have received God's "Gift of Righteousness".

6.) See Reader, God can't birth you into Himself, if you are not "made Righteous".... .so, that is why Christ dealt with all of your sin,

= "For God hath made Jesus TO BE .... SIN.... FOR US"....and because He has.. then that is why God gives you His very own Righteousness, as .."THE Gift of Righteousness".

God has birthed you.... as born again, as "made Righteous".

This is why God calls His redeemed : """Son/Daughter of God""... and He could not call you this, unless you have become, "A new Creation in Christ".. born again, AS.. """THE. Righteousness.... OF GOD.... "in Christ"."""

Reader..... all the born again are : "IN Christ".

 

[Episkopos]

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1.) Its "God who Justifies" based on what He created/offers as the Justification,= being Imputed through Faith.

"Grade through Faith".

This is the Sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross.. , which is God's Grace and God's Justification who is "The Gift of Salvaiton"

Jesus IS Salvation.
Jesus is Eternal Life..
.... and when you have Jesus in you... "Christ in you the Hope of Glory) (Glory is heaven) then you are "One with God" , In Christ, and born again.

2.) The ONLY proof of being born again, is that You have Jesus in you.. = You are now in Spiritual Union, with God and Christ

See,..., "if YOU have not the Spirit of Christ in you, then you are none of His". (None of Christ's and none of God's).

And,... "Christ IS That Spirit" and "God is A Spirit"... and that is why all the born again are become "The Temple of The HOLY Spirit".

See that Reader?

Now when this Eternal BLOOD Sacrifice, who is Christ on The Cross.... is applied to a believer, based on their FAITH that is "counted by God, as "righteousness", ...... we see that this Sacrifice of Christ, is the only JUSTIFICATION that God offers anyone. And Jesus refers to this as "I am THE WAY to the Father"... John 14:6, .. = "No person comes to the Father but by ME"..

And "BY ME"= The Cross of Christ.. "Justification by Faith".

3.) So, once a person has BELIEVED, then God counts/accepts their faith, by receiving it to then Justify them through the Cross of Christ as this is the Eternal Justification., that is Eternal REDEMPTION.

Now this BELIEVER = , who is now Justified, Sanctified, and Redeemed by the Blood and Death of Jesus, has become a "New Creation" in Christ"..... born again.

And having become so, is a Eternal Reality., as becoming a CHRISTian is, = born again = is completed.

4.) This is why all the born again are BECOME, .. not later, but have BECOME :

1.) Heir of God
2.) Joint Heir with Jesus
3.) Temple of the Holy Spirit
4a.) The Righteousness of God in Christ.


Now, look again at #4a Reader...

If you are born again, then you are become a "new Creation, IN Christ""... so you abide there...you exist there, having been "Translated from Darkness (unbelief) .... TO Light." = The KOG.

This Light is the KOG... This Light is "God exists IN Light".. And """"Jesus is the LIGHT of the World""" and all the born again are become "Children OF the Light".

See how all that is ONE ??

5.) Now, Heretics, teach that you are still trying to make it. You are in the work of trying to abide there....

When the Reality is, you are already there having been born again there, and now are defined as a : "Child of the Light".

So, to be that one, you have become "MADE Righteous", or you could not be in the KOG as a "Child of Light."

And this brings us to the reason that the pre-incarnate Word came down here, and was Virgin born, and died on The Cross and is now risen and in Heaven.

Jesus came here to deal with the Law that was defining you as a sinner, and dealt with it.
Jesus became your sin bearer, so that you can become "The righteousness of God.. In Christ" = Born again.
= Jesus provided His sinless life on the Cross so that God could give it to you, as "The Righteousness of God, in Christ".. as :

= "THE Gift of Righteousness" ..

Being Born again, PROVES you have received God's "Gift of Righteousness".

6.) See Reader, God can't birth you into Himself, if you are not "made Righteous".... .so, that is why Christ dealt with all of your sin,

= "For God hath made Jesus TO BE .... SIN.... FOR US"....and because He has.. then that is why God gives you His very own Righteousness, as .."THE Gift of Righteousness".

God has birthed you.... as born again, as "made Righteous".

This is why God calls His redeemed : """Son/Daughter of God""... and He could not call you this, unless you have become, "A new Creation in Christ".. born again, AS.. "THE..,. Righteousness.... OF GOD.... "in Christ".

Reader..... all the born again are : "IN Christ".

The whole idea of Jesus being blamed for the sins of men by a righteous God so that He would see dishonest and rebellious sinners as being as pure and blameless as Jesus IN their sins...is a fable...an outright lie.

Keep publishing iniquity...because it is foretold this would happen. But woe to the ones who do such. Fear God and depart from evil.

 

[Behold]

The whole idea of Jesus being blamed for the sins of men by a righteous God so that He would see dishonest and rebellious sinners as being as pure and blameless as Jesus IN their sins...is a fable...an outright lie.

Jesus isn't "blamed" for the sin of men.

So, @Episkopos , what heretic did you study who made you believe such a lie that is your false Gospel?

Listen..carefully...

Jesus is THE = "SIN OFFERING">.. sent from God, as the New Covenant.

This is : THE CROSS OF CHRIST.

Jesus is an OFFERING To God, on behalf of everyone's sin.

2 Corinthians 5:19 & John 3:17

Jesus told you, that "No man takes my life from me... I have the power to LAY IT DOWN and I have the power to TAKE IT UP, again"..

1 John 3:16.."Jesus laid down His LIFE for us"...

Where?

A.) ON THE CROSS..

Jesus on the Cross is THE SIN OFFERING for the sin of the world..

AA.) "God hath made JESUS to be SIN for us"..

AAA) "Jesus is the ONE TIME.... ETERNAL..SACRIFICE for SIN".. = SIN Offering

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But when this Hight priest had OFFERED for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, New Living Translation But our High Priest OFFERED HIMSELF TO GOD - as a single sacrifice for sins, good for all time. Then he sat down in the place of honor at God’s right hand. English Standard Version But when Christ had OFFERED for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, Berean Standard Bible But when this Priest had OFFERED for all time one sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right hand of God. Berean Literal Bible But this One, having offered one sacrifice for sins in perpetuity, sat down at the right hand of God, King James Bible But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; New King James Version But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, New American Standard Bible but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, NASB 1995 but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,

 

[Ritajanice]

Jesus took the sins of mankind onto himself, he wasn’t guilty of any sin, why did Jesus therefore have to take the sins of mankind onto his shoulders?

What would the outcome have been, if God hadn’t sent Jesus to the cross?

 

[Behold]

What would the outcome have been, if God hadn’t sent Jesus to the cross?

Everyone would die in their sin, Unforgiven, had Jesus not died on the Cross.

But Because Jesus has "laid down His Life"... or as Paul said...>"Because Jesus loved me, and GAVE His life for me'...

A.) Thank You JESUS..!


Here is how JOHN teaches The Offering of Christ on the Cross, that is the New Covenant,


""""This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.""""

New Living Translation
We know what real love is because Jesus gave up his life for us. So we also ought to give up our lives for our brothers and sisters.

English Standard Version
By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers.

Berean Standard Bible
By this we know what love is: Jesus laid down His life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers.

Berean Literal Bible
By this we have known love, because He laid down His life for us; and we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers.

 

[Ritajanice]

If Jesus hadn’t died and taken our sin on his shoulders.

Then there would be NO reconciliation back to God....as we need to also be Born Of The Spirit/ Born Again / regenerated/ we need that second birth....which is of the Spirit..our spirit needs to be reborn/ Born Again....which is a Spiritual act of God...as his word says.....” Living “ word that is....imo/ belief.

 

[Behold]

If Jesus hadn’t died and taken our sin on his shoulders.

Then there would be NO reconciliation back to God....as we need to also be Born Of The Spirit/ Born Again / regenerated/ we need that second birth....which is of the Spirit..our spirit needs to be reborn/ Born Again....which is a Spiritual act of God...as his word says.....” Living “ word that is....imo/ belief.

Exactly.

John 14:6

 

[Behold]

Jesus is eternal life.

When we become born again.........this means that we are now joined to God by spiritual birth.....having been Born AGAIN Spiritually into God's Spirit, by God's Holy Spirit.
This is "Spiritual UNION" with God and Christ.
This is to exist as Adam existed before he fell into iniquity.... Before he chose it.

Being born again is the end result of being redeemed.
Being REDEEMED, ,... means you have been changed from something , INTO something else.
You have become something "Spiritually" that you were not before and this happened by removing what was keeping you from being redeemed.

So, what was removed from you, so that by this redemption, you are now redeemed?

A.) Your SIN.

Being born again, is the end result of being redeemed from all your sin. And how did God do this for you?

= A.) Jesus became your sin on the Cross and DIED for them all.

Jesus is the "one time eternal sacrifice for ALL sin".

Jesus sat down by the Father after He had "purged all your sin".....

A person is a sinner, and trusts in Christ, and Jesus on the Cross becomes your sin BEARER.
The Bible teaches that "God made Jesus to be sin for us, who KNEW NO SIN"....

See that? That is your REDEMPTION........ITs Jesus.

 

[Behold]

Salvation is something God provides to you as a GIFT.
Its not something that you provide to God.

Salvation is the BLOOD OF JESUS.
Salvation is JESUS, Himself, as He is the Gift of God.
Jesus is your Salvation.
Jesus is your Eternal life.
Do you have Jesus in you?
Then you have God's Salvation, and you are born again.

 

[Behold]

..lets look at this closely.. Reader..

We, THE BORN AGAIN..... are 1.) justified by faith/

So, that is "been" justified, and "BEING" justified.
That is saved and kept saved.

The BEEN, is.....>"your faith is counted as your righteousness".....
This means that God saw your faith in Christ in your heart, and accepted that faith to give you the eternal blood atonement and then the new Birth.
This is God Himself = providing it ALL for you, as a "GIFT".
You caused NONE OF THAT.
It was APPLIED to you, as God's Grace, which is the mercy of God, undeserved. = "The imputed Righteousness of Christ".

How is this accomplished?

1.) God accepts our faith to : "justified by faith". This means He accepts our faith "as Righteousness".
Literally God takes your Sin, and Jesus dies for it all and God takes the Righteousness of Christ and you BECOME THIS, as "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
This happens once, only once. and for ETERNITY. Its the "Divine Exchange".
= Born again.
Being born again PROVES that God has accepted your faith, once and forever.... and has REDEEMED you using the Blood of Jesus.
Its DONE.
Being Born again, is PROOF its completed, which is the : "been".
All your sin is in your past, erased, forgiven, and your future is "in Christ", as "Eternal Life".

2.) Faith then continues to Justify.....However, this is not your faith, as God has already accepted your faith, ONCE, as proven by being born again.

So, the "being Justified"... = .this is Christ's Faith that keeps you justified...or "being Justified"......= "continuing to be".

 

[Behold]

Reader,

If you are born again....

You gave God your faith in Christ.... as your confidence in Him that He would SAVE YOU, and God is faithful to do It. He is Faithful to complete your Salvation.
Philippians 1:6
See, your FAITH put your TRUST in God's hands, and He is "faithful to complete" what you have trusted Him to Complete. Philippians 1:6.
This is your Eternal Security. This is Jesus saying...."you shall never perish".

Salvation works like this....... You give God your faith, and God takes if from there and will complete it.
See that? You have to believe this and let it become your mind of Faith.
That's His promise.= God/Jesus will complete both your salvation AND your FAITH.
See, when you took Christ by Faith, God took you by promise.
He promised that "all who call on the Name of Jesus, will/shall be SAVED"
He did not lie.
It will be done, and it IS Accomplished, if you are born again.

"SAVED" means the completion of the REDEMPTION process by GOD.
God completes your Salvation.
See that?

You gave your faith to God, and He accepted this ONCE to Justify you, (born again)..
You gave your faith to God the day you are born again, and God and Christ then take it from there, WHICH IS YOU BORN AGAIN AS "IN CHRIST">.. and complete it to the End for you.
That is the "GIFT of Salvation".

Believer.....Salvation is all of God.
He created it with the Blood of Jesus, and then maintains it Himself, for you.
That is the '"GIFT......OF SALVATION"
God comes to live in you, as you become "the temple of the Holy Spirit..""
And what is Your part?
Your part is to receive God's GIFT of Salvation BY FAITH.

DID YOU TAKE CHRIST BY FAITH?
THEN GOD TOOK YOU BY THE CROSS OF CHRIST.

Saint, salvation is not you holding unto God, as that would be a WORK and not a "GIFT"
Salvation is a GIFT. Salvation is God redeeming you with His own BLOOD , and keeping you as His own eternal family.
You do none of this......none of it.
Your part is to RECEIVE the "GIFT" and Rejoice in the Amazing Grace of God.
Salvation is God holding unto YOU< by the Blood of Jesus, and the Cross of Christ.... and THAT is your Eternal Life.
The Blood Atonement is your Salvation.
JESUS is the Blood Atonement... = That's God's GIFT....."The Gift of Salvation".

 

[MatthewG]

Something you said, Epi, reminded me of these verses that Paul wrote to the Corinthians.

”For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: but we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; but unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: but God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; and base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: that no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: that, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.“
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭1‬:‭22‬-‭31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

”The Jews ask for miraculous signs, and the Greeks want wisdom. But this is the message we tell everyone: Christ was killed on a cross. This message is a problem for Jews, and to other people it is nonsense. But Christ is God’s power and wisdom to the people God has chosen, both Jews and Greeks. Even the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom. Even the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. Brothers and sisters, God chose you to be his. Think about that! Not many of you were wise in the way the world judges wisdom. Not many of you had great influence, and not many of you came from important families. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise. He chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. And God chose what the world thinks is not important—what the world hates and thinks is nothing. He chose these to destroy what the world thinks is important. God did this so that no one can stand before him and boast about anything. It is God who has made you part of Christ Jesus. And Christ has become for us wisdom from God. He is the reason we are right with God and pure enough to be in his presence. Christ is the one who set us free from sin. So, as the Scriptures say, “Whoever boasts should boast only about the Lord.”“
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭1‬:‭22‬-‭31‬ ‭ERV‬‬

God uses the weak things of the world to confound the wise and the only boasting that is able to be done is in what the Lord Jesus has done for all, of us.

 

[Episkopos]

Jesus took the sins of mankind onto himself, he wasn’t guilty of any sin, why did Jesus therefore have to take the sins of mankind onto his shoulders?

Jesus BORE the sins of mankind...but those sins were NOT imputed to Him. They are OUR sins not His.

What would the outcome have been, if God hadn’t sent Jesus to the cross?

Without the cross we would be forever in bondage to sin. The cross of Christ crucifies the outer man so that the inner man can be lifted into intimacy with God.

Jesus came to take away the sins of the world...and give us ACCESS to God who is holy. In Christ is no sin...He is holy. By entering INTO Christ we become partakers of HIS holiness. He becomes our covering. As long as we abide in Christ we are holy as God is holy...no spot or wrinkle of sin.

 

[Ritajanice]

Jesus BORE the sins of mankind...but those sins were NOT imputed to Him. They are OUR sins not His.

Without the cross we would be forever in bondage to sin. The cross of Christ crucifies the outer man so that the inner man can be lifted into intimacy with God.

Jesus came to take away the sins of the world...and give us ACCESS to God who is holy. In Christ is no sin...He is holy. By entering INTO Christ we become partakers of HIS holiness. He becomes our covering. As long as we abide in Christ we are holy as God is holy...no spot or wrinkle of sin.

That’s your belief Epi..I respect it, but, I don’t agree with it...on saying that some of your posts speak to me.xx

 

[Episkopos]

That’s your belief Epi..I respect it, but, I don’t agree with it...on saying that some of your posts speak to me.xx

The easy ones...I know. Just repeat spiritual "sounding" verse and you will be blessed. So be it.

 

[Ritajanice]

Without the cross we would be forever in bondage to sin. The cross of Christ crucifies the outer man so that the inner man can be lifted into intimacy with God.

Without the Spirit also we would still be in darkness...

It’s the Holy Spirit who brings our spirit Alive in Christ supernaturally..

We need both..death and resurrection of Jesus.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.

Without the Spirit we are none of His plus we could never understand God’s word without those spiritual eyes and ears, that we received when we became Born Again..imo/ belief.