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i could show you video of your country's "Christian" leaders kowtowing to Trump, an avowed atheist, if you like. Guess you like videos?

Seems there is an obtuseness about you when it comes to videos made where muslims say that they are to kill homosexuals.


Ask your devout muslim if he believes that homosexuals are to be killed.

BTW.... I believe homosexuals need Jesus Christ to save them from their sins and to trust Him to keep them from their sins to no longer live in them nor be dominated by that abomination.... just as fornicators and masturbators need Jesus Christ to save them from their sins and to keep them from it.
 

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The altar call is the opposite of the gospel the Graham Crusade has preached. It is like bait and switch.

"It is not going to church every Sunday that is going to save you. It is not keeping the ten commandments that is going to save you. It is all those who call upon the name of the Lord." That is basically the gospel in how Graham would present it.

Then comes the opposite of what he had preached at this altar call.

"If you are not sure you are saved, come forward and make a commitment to follow Christ."

Did you blink? What is involved in keeping your commitment to follow Christ for you to gain the assurance of your salvation? It is more than keeping the ten commandments, because His standard of teachings are higher than the works of the law. It means going to church every Sunday is going to save you for how else would you be keeping that cmmitment to follow Christ for teh assurance of your salvation? Get it now?

That is why in an interview with Tony Snow, Billy Graham doubted he would be received by Jesus Christ because he was not always a good christian. Why would he think like that? Because by that commitment to follow Christ is the knowledge of sin. Of course, he will gain no assurance of salvation if he looks to keeping that commitment to follow Christ as a means to save himself. And yet he had said all those that call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Course, he has been marked on the internet as saying that there are others ways for sinners to be saved which goes to show how astray he is.



And yet they worship Him in vain, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Remember; what we build on that foundation, God will judge. Any work that denies Him, they will be denied by Him by that iniquity, but He is faithful as He still abides in them as that foundation can never be removed, but unless they repent, they run the risk of being left behind at the pre trib rapture event.

If circumcision is done by you, which is the smallest letter of the law, you are required to do the whole law. What is making a promise to God is? The biggest letter of the law, and yet somehow or another, believers thinks God will give more grace if they keep trying to keep promises that only God can finish. That is the whole point of Matthew 5:33-37 where in verse 36, Jesus said why you should not make any oath' not even swear by them, because you cannot make one hair white or black. Only God can do God's work in you. So where is your faith under the law? It is voided.

Believers need Jesus to forgive them for making promises covered under His New Covenant as He will finish His work in us to His glory. As no flesh shall glory in His Presence, they are at risk of being left behind at the pre trib rapture until they repent and rest in Him & His promises to us for following Him as the just can only live by faith.



Consitutionally wise, it would be hard to deny sinners to choose Islam in America. I cannot fathom politically how to ban Islam in America without the ACLU making a stink of it, but I can fathom denying them Sharia Law politically. They do not need it. There are muslims in America and there is no wishing them away. Like any sinner, we can hope that they hear the gospel of the Good News in Christ Jesus sooner rather than later.

They will try to explain Sharia Law vaguely, to attempt to assuage fears about it, but like the Quran, once implemented, they can choose to respond with harsher punishment when it suits them.

They are trying to do that now in the UK, all the while holding up signs that says no to democracy, because that is what it means to implement Sharia Law on everyone as it is a moral code to be followed by everyone.



As Islam is of Satan ( and I do not know how you can say that I defend Islam by posting that ) you have been caught sleeping at your post, brother.



Please read my words in context and you will see my sarcasm better.

Denying them Sharia Law is keeping democracy in America. Giving them Sharia Law makes America a theocracy.

Yeah right. I am for denying them Sharia Law. You must be confusing me with another poster when you replied this way.

The "yeah right" was the sarcasm in response to you saying I am helping muslims accomplish their goals.



Don't ignore His words either for how we are to behave under the New Covenant. We are not to be offended by the muslims, but that does not mean give them Sharia Law.

John 16:1These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me. 4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

There is nothing wrong with an altar call. It is an invitation for those who have been moved by the Holy Spirit to make a decision to come to Christ. Good and acceptable to God.

I never said ones salvation depended on keeping the 10 commandments. I never said it means going to church every Sunday either. It doesn't.

Well, Billy Graham was correct in saying that all that call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. If in his doubts he swayed from that, then he was incorrect. But, God was still correct and all that call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Which means 'Billy' is going to get there, doubts and all. And if Billy says, as you claim, that there are other ways to be saved, then he is wrong. There is only one way. Jesus Christ.

I don't know what you are talking about when you bring up circumcision. And I don't think you do either.

OK. Believers need Jesus to forgive them. Is that supposed to be some deep stuff? Seems pretty elementary. I mean, real elementary.

It's not hard at all. You make islam, muslims illegal. You make shariah law illegal. If you want to be a muslim either go away or go to jail. Gee, that was easy. If you try and implement shariah law, you go to jail. Gee, another hard one.

Exactly right. There is no wishing muslims away. You have to do something. You have to make them leave. You have to make them know that islam is against the law of the land because it is against God. And then run them out. islam doesn't care if you deny them shariah law. All they care is that they can exist here for a time and multiply in numbers. Then when they have the numbers, they force the issue and everyone is too scared to provoke them because all hell breaks lose. In other words, you are abetting the criminal in allowing him safety until he turns to his criminal ways.

Well, if I have misunderstood your stance on islam and shariah law, just clear it up now and say you agree with what I have said. Say islam is the enemy. Say, muslims are the enemy. Say, shariah law is nothing but submission to islam and needs to be outlawed in every state. Say islam's goal is to bring every country where it exists under sahriah law. Say, muslims need to be deported and mosques destroyed as they are an enemy to our country and every country where they exist.

Sorry, but you are not going to have me bow to any muslims just because you can quote a couple of verses. Try again.

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Oh wow. If you are going to judge like that, what happens when you do that?



You need to read your King James Bible, brother. Don't even bother trying to say it does not apply to us. Jesus is referring to the Old Covenant in how followers of God were to behave, but NOW it is to be different.

Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Paul confirmed this saying from Jesus to be applied even to any active & passive enemy among the muslims.

Romans 12:17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.



A lobster in a slowly boiling pot; sinners do not always recognize they are in peril until you point out the boiling pot and the Good News for Jesus to get them out of it.

As it is, you are lacking in His words considerably to not know apostasy in the Graham Crusade nor the Promise Keepers program. I can only hope you are not a part of it, brother. May the Lord continue to keep you from falling away from the faith that is in Jesus Christ.

I also note you avoided the apostasy where they that think it is the Holy Spirit coming over them again later on in life, bringing signs of confusion. I hope the Lord keeps you from that too.

But you better reread the Sermon on the Mount again. Jesus refers to old times as under the Old Covenant and has referred to the requirement of the law, but He then defers from it by teaching what is to be now under the New Covenant.

I know it is a hard read, but what I find impossible for me to do, and all of it is, that is what Jesus Christ is for; to trust Him to help me do them, and not just trust Him in fulfulling the law by dying on the cross for my sins in having saved me when I had first believed in Him.

You need His wisdom to read His words in the Sermon on the Mount. Matthew would not have written all that if it was no relevant to christians today when there are others things to write about Jesus, so it has to be important.

I capitalize that which glorifies God and I don't capitalize that which does not. I do it for the God I serve. Just like you did it for the god you serve. Seems we don't serve the same. Don't worry about me judging. I do it all the time. As the Christian is supposed to.

Don't use the word 'brother' so loosely.

Matt. 5-7 does not apply to the Church. It applies to the kingdom reign. Which didn't come because they rejected their Messiah. The Sermon on the Mount will apply when Jesus Christ is physically sitting on the throne in Jerusalem.

I have already addressed Pauls statements in (Rom. 12). He said in verse (18) "...as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men." Find that in the Sermon on the Mount. And there is no living peaceably with the enemy who plans to destroy you. That enemy being islam.


I reject your condescending platitudes. I have no problem understanding the Sermon on the Mount. Just as I have no problem rejecting your interpretation of the Sermon on the Mount. And, as I said, I don't use the term brother so loosely.


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Seems there is an obtuseness about you when it comes to videos made where muslims say that they are to kill homosexuals.
yes, this amounts to "peering in" to me, and i am also not interested in any videos portraying people posing as Christians who think homosexuals/anyone should be killed either. In short, i am not interested in snuff videos, i guess. i mean, what's next lol, porn?

do you really think you are proving some point, just because you found some guy in a turban who says he is Muslim? All you did was find something that reflects your heart wadr.
 

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BTW.... I believe homosexuals need Jesus Christ to save them from their sins and to trust Him to keep them from their sins to no longer live in them nor be dominated by that abomination.... just as fornicators and masturbators need Jesus Christ to save them from their sins and to keep them from it.
well if i were you i would be worrying more about my own sins, and less about everyone else's, otherwise you are going to come off as trying to make yourself appear better by comparison, and then how are you going to answer the charge of not loving them?

Let Christ convict them, being as how it is Christ they need. i mean, if you come out of an encounter with one of these leaving them with the opinion that you need Jesus worse than they do, then what have you done?

You will not sway anyone by accusing them of their sin; we already have a guy for that, ok. You might examine this preoccupation with sin and "other" people, and see how this is a counterfeit for "being separate," which is a valid concept, a doctrine even.

Because you can make yourself paranoid/schizophrenic, and you will end your days peering out of windows with a shotgun in your hand, muttering about Jesus and sin, i have seen it, and it is not pretty, even though it is a form of "separate."
 
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It's not hard at all. You make islam, muslims illegal. You make shariah law illegal.
Stranger, this cannot end well for you, because as we can see those who make the laws are going the other way, generally speaking. Islam is not your enemy, as has been amply demonstrated already, and you even had a hand in demonstrating this, when you could not witness any sins committed upon you by your Muslim neighbors.

So what you are going to end up doing is forcing legislation to protect Muslims against Islamophobes, and the same courts that took the side of homosexuals are going to take the side of Muslims, and it is going to be your doing ok. So you are digging your own pit.

Notwithstanding that you are all panty-wadded about Sharia, but you aren't making a peep about mandatory arbitration, loss of access to judicial redress, against an unfair employer. The first one would never impact you in the slightest, and you cannot outlaw it anyway because it is voluntary, many of your neighbors practice Sharia right now--the same ones who are not bothering you at all (the same ones following Scripture more closely than most Christians, who would gladly go to court)--and the second one, that you are oblivious to or just ignoring, is all about you and your posterity.

So, hypocrite much? i mean, what other conclusion can be reached?
 

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And there is no living peaceably with the enemy who plans to destroy you. That enemy being islam.
see that you are just channeling antichrist here, and suggesting that others fear Islam and not God. This is completely unscriptural, and you are a hypocrite and proud of it, apparently. i mean, do you really want to end up in Anger Management at your age?

do you not see that you are setting yourself up as the enemy? i mean i'm all for diverse opinions on a board and all, but i don't think you realize how you are being perceived, with all this constant hate-mongering.
 

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And there is no living peaceably with the enemy who plans to destroy you. That enemy being islam.
see that you are just channeling antichrist here, and suggesting that others fear Islam and not God. This is completely unscriptural, and you are a hypocrite and proud of it, apparently. i mean, do you really want to end up in Anger Management at your age?

do you not see that you are setting yourself up as the enemy? i mean i'm all for diverse opinions on a board and all, but i don't think you realize how you are being perceived, with all this constant hate-mongering.
 

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God's mercy upon all who fall to this enemy of peace and Christians everywhere.
 

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Nothing like someone thinking people deserve the terrorism that befalls their people and country.
Praying you find Christ! Your Allah is a false demonic spirit.
"God will not be mocked; as you sow, so shall you reap."

but since we're on the subject, i would invite you to witness all of the Islamic terrorism that you have been subjected to, by the multiple-thousands of Muslims that you are currently surrounded by. Go ahead and use 2 pages if you need to.
 
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Here we are again. In New York City another good muslim killing a bunch of Americans. And all his friends say how friendly and nice he was. How he loved America. So, everyone will just scratch their head and wonder how can these things happen. They will continue to ignore the reason this happened. It happened because he was muslim.

All those nice muslims living around you that everyone says are so good, are just like this good muslim who ran over as many people as he could. Until people get in their head that the problem is muslims then it will not go away. That is why they are saying things like, 'there is nothing to stop this sort of thing'. But there is.

First of all, you make islam illegal in this country. Forget about freedom of religion. This is a political religious body that has your destruction in mind. Second you destroy all mosques. They are just fortresses for islam to hatch out its nefarious plans. Third, deport all muslims. Fourth, don't let any muslims in. Fifth, like Israel does, if one does a terroristic act like that in New York, you immediately deport all his family and take over all their property.

Islam is the enemy. Until the country is willing to admit it, it is not going to stop.

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Here we are again. In New York City another good muslim killing a bunch of Americans. And all his friends say how friendly and nice he was. How he loved America. So, everyone will just scratch their head and wonder how can these things happen. They will continue to ignore the reason this happened. It happened because he was muslim.

All those nice muslims living around you that everyone says are so good, are just like this good muslim who ran over as many people as he could. Until people get in their head that the problem is muslims then it will not go away. That is why they are saying things like, 'there is nothing to stop this sort of thing'. But there is.

First of all, you make islam illegal in this country. Forget about freedom of religion. This is a political religious body that has your destruction in mind. Second you destroy all mosques. They are just fortresses for islam to hatch out its nefarious plans. Third, deport all muslims. Fourth, don't let any muslims in. Fifth, like Israel does, if one does a terroristic act like that in New York, you immediately deport all his family and take over all their property.

Islam is the enemy. Until the country is willing to admit it, it is not going to stop.

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Hi stranger
I hear you brother....and until a few months ago I felt the same. Frustration at our government ...and ours is worse than yours...they are welcomed here ( Canada) with welcoming arms , by our Prime Mister , who gives them $millions to settle here!

Yet, I finally saw that we are on a timetable....it is not without planning that the One World Goverment is advancing their agenda fast now. ALL Governents say the same thing as each other...it is all Mickey Mouse talk. One brings in mixed bathrooms , so all declare mixed-bathrooms ... one brings in a law, all the others bring in the same law.
The ‘war’ is against people and free thinking. I believe the Muslim Religion is just being used as a front runner of a Bigger Plan.
We know that there are thousands of them in every country now...the invasion is here..done deal...they have told us that they believe ‘ that their god has given and promised them every inch of land that the sole of their foot treads upon.’
I don’t believe that any of the governments or leaders were tricked into “the invasion” ...I am just simple enough to belive that they are all part of the master design.
On one hand I believe it is too late. On the other I see that the world is going where God told us that it would go. ( Rev) maybe we are closer to the end than we think?
Maybe the patriots and militants can hold back the tide for a while...but the one Worlders and the elite have a plan for us all , and it’s not a good one!
BUT GOD!
He has His plan,we know...I’m not sure just how far He will allow them to go before He steps in.
Our hiding place is in God....we are fighting ‘principalities and powers’....we only ‘see’ and hear about the flesh and blood actions....but it is much bigger than what we can see and hear.
Praise God we do at least know the end of the story. :)
 
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Nothing like someone thinking people deserve the terrorism that befalls their people and country.
Praying you find Christ! Your Allah is a false demonic spirit.
"God will not be mocked; as you sow, so shall you reap."

but since we're on the subject, i would invite you to witness all of the Islamic terrorism that you have been subjected to, by the multiple-thousands of Muslims that you are currently surrounded by. Go ahead and use 2 pages if you need to.
gee, Peanut, where'd ya go? Your Big Opp to witness all the evil fruit heaped upon you by all those evil Muslims, and you take a powder?

Anyone else wanna step into the humongous gap here?
I already know Stranger doesn't i guess this is about when he put me on ignore lol.
 

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Hi stranger
I hear you brother....and until a few months ago I felt the same. Frustration at our government ...and ours is worse than yours...they are welcomed here ( Canada) with welcoming arms , by our Prime Mister , who gives them $millions to settle here!

Yet, I finally saw that we are on a timetable....it is not without planning that the One World Goverment is advancing their agenda fast now. ALL Governents say the same thing as each other...it is all Mickey Mouse talk. One brings in mixed bathrooms , so all declare mixed-bathrooms ... one brings in a law, all the others bring in the same law.
The ‘war’ is against people and free thinking. I believe the Muslim Religion is just being used as a front runner of a Bigger Plan.
We know that there are thousands of them in every country now...the invasion is here..done deal...they have told us that they believe ‘ that their god has given and promised them every inch of land that the sole of their foot treads upon.’
I don’t believe that any of the governments or leaders were tricked into “the invasion” ...I am just simple enough to belive that they are all part of the master design.
On one hand I believe it is too late. On the other I see that the world is going where God told us that it would go. ( Rev) maybe we are closer to the end than we think?
Maybe the patriots and militants can hold back the tide for a while...but the one Worlders and the elite have a plan for us all , and it’s not a good one!
BUT GOD!
He has His plan,we know...I’m not sure just how far He will allow them to go before He steps in.
Our hiding place is in God....we are fighting ‘principalities and powers’....we only ‘see’ and hear about the flesh and blood actions....but it is much bigger than what we can see and hear.
Praise God we do at least know the end of the story. :)

The spiritual war is also acted out in this flesh.

Perhaps God will step in if His people will step in. Perhaps God is saying that I gave you the responsibility for that. Now don't come to me crying saying you will just wait on God.

Since we know the end of the story, are we to be witnesses for Christ? Are we not to do something? Why are Christians such cowards? Why do they expect others in the world to do their dirty work, as they focus on the 'spirit world'.

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Forget about freedom of religion.

Not even touching any of your other points, this one of eliminating freedom of religion is what many people would really like to see. Our nation has already redefined Christianity so that Jesus would not recognize most of the supposedly Christian church groups now. Eventually, I believe, there will be no overt truly Christian manifestations allowed anyway. Perhaps the current President has slowed the movement against real Christians in a measure, but removing religious freedom legally would likely hurt real Christians more than it would hurt Islam.

Our only real refuge is in Jesus. To believe that any law unbelieving men might pass would salvage the situation for God's people is more of man's foolishness. Man cannot fix his own problems.
 
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Not even touching any of your other points, this one of eliminating freedom of religion is what many people would really like to see. Our nation has already redefined Christianity so that Jesus would not recognize most of the supposedly Christian church groups now. Eventually, I believe, there will be no overt truly Christian manifestations allowed anyway. Perhaps the current President has slowed the movement against real Christians in a measure, but removing religious freedom legally would likely hurt real Christians more than it would hurt Islam.

Our only real refuge is in Jesus. To believe that any law unbelieving men might pass would salvage the situation for God's people is more of man's foolishness. Man cannot fix his own problems.

Pay attention to what I said. I didn't say eliminate religious freedom. I said forget about religious freedom for muslims. It doesn't apply.

No, Christians have allowed the nation to redefine Christianity. Because why should they do anything. God has a plan. Just wait for Him to do something about it.

Yes, Jesus is my only real refuge. That doesn't mean I don't run out of my house if it is on fire. That doesn't mean I don't try and put the fire out before it destroys all my house.

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Pay attention to what I said. I didn't say eliminate religious freedom. I said forget about religious freedom for muslims. It doesn't apply.

I read what you wrote, but such an amendment to the Constitution could not and/or would not exclude you and me. If it did, it would make the whole thing meaningless or hopelessly confused. Only God or His anointed messenger could do it right, and if man has any thing to say about it, it will not happen.

No, Christians have allowed the nation to redefine Christianity.

With this I agree, at least to the extent that it includes all of those who bear the label of Christian even while most of them have not a real clue as to what it means to be a follower of Christ.

Because why should they do anything. God has a plan. Just wait for Him to do something about it.
I don't just wait... rather I strive to do what I believe God wants me to do. If every one who says he is a Christian did the same, likely there would be no problem.

Yes, Jesus is my only real refuge. That doesn't mean I don't run out of my house if it is on fire. That doesn't mean I don't try and put the fire out before it destroys all my house.

The question for all of us then may be to understand what the house of God is and what our job is in defending or building it. Doubtless people will differ in these things and as a result not work where God wants them to work.
 

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I read what you wrote, but such an amendment to the Constitution could not and/or would not exclude you and me. If it did, it would make the whole thing meaningless or hopelessly confused. Only God or His anointed messenger could do it right, and if man has any thing to say about it, it will not happen.

Removing freedom of religion from the Constitution will surely be like opening Pandora's box. There are many heathens in positions of power that would love nothing less than to dash Christianity into pieces. And speaking of God, not even he removes the free worship of other gods during his millennial reign according to Micah.

(Micah 4:1-7) "But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. {2} And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. {3} ¶ And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. {4} But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it. {5} For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever. {6} In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted; {7} And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever."

We see Micah speaking of some of the changes that will be made under God's rule, the disarmament of all nations being chief among them. The worship of other gods doesn't even seem to be a concern here. It shows that just removing the freedom of religion for one will not at all solve any issue. Removing religious freedom from one group will only set a precedence for the state to do it us as well.
 
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