By God's testimony I assume you mean the written scriptures. I am OK with the scriptures, but how many denominations exist today that proclaim that they are based on those scriptures yet on numerous points disagree sometimes sharply effectively to the point of saying if you disagree you are dead to God?
No, none of those things can separate from His Love, but we can certainly pull away on our own. The dominion of ourselves was given to us and has never been taken away. This will remain until we have no more time. God limited Himself in this. The limitation on Him remains and only we can change that. We don't give Him the reins we are lost, but always the potential remains for us to take them back and every time we quench the Holy Spirit of God in us the reins are in our hands again. The condition of the United States as per the census at about 80% Christian looks more like that percentage or more as it is mostly demonic. Of course, I suppose some would say the Census Bureau knows more than me:
"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." Gen 1:28
" Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel." Psalm 78:41
Jesus made it possible for us to do better, but the choice still always remains ours until there are no more choices
The work in us is by and through the Holy Spirit in us. It will be completed only if a person allows it to be done in him unhindered. Every time person quenches the Holy Spirit, the work is delayed or stopped. God is merciful but time is limited for each of us. Our allowed time is the limit of God's mercy.
Amadeus:
I do see a real disconnect in your view and mine based on what you wrote here…..it is a little disconcerting if it is your view of yours or anyone else's state of salvation.
You said: “The work in us is by and through the Holy Spirit in us. It will be completed only if a person allows it to be done in him unhindered. Every time person quenches the Holy Spirit, the work is delayed or stopped. God is merciful but time is limited for each of us. Our allowed time is the limit of God's mercy.”
And you said: "No, none of those things can separate from His Love, but we can certainly pull away on our own. The dominion of ourselves was given to us and has never been taken away. This will remain until we have no more time. God limited Himself in this.
Jesus made it possible for us to do better, but the choice still always remains ours until there are no more choices”
The first paragraph is an impossibility for any man or woman to achieve. We shall sometimes quench the spirit within us, and we shall hinder the work of the spirit from time to time. You have boxed yourself into a corner using some type of mix of misrepresented scripture or by outright unscriptural basis.
We are not perfect Amadeus. We cannot deliver on this promise you suggest. No one can be saved under your criteria. The work of the spirit will never be finished in this corrupt state.
What do you mean by ‘Our allowed time is the limit of God’s mercy?” It sounded like you are saying if God ‘sees’ we are not becoming perfect on his time line he will cut us loose? I don’t think anyone can meet his standards. So how many times can we quench the spirit to be cut loose? I hope I'm completely wrong in what you are saying here.
What do you mean by the dominion was given to ourselves?..in what over the animals..what else? Are you somehow fusing this concept of dominion you suggest here with a type of restraining power over God’s spirt and its working within us? I hope not!
Where is your primal logic or reasoning coming from here for this dominion theory and your limits of God's mercy theory?
Bless you,
APAK