Ferris Bueller
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How does a man know he really believes something? How does anyone know if someone else really believes something?How does a man not know what he believes?
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How does a man know he really believes something? How does anyone know if someone else really believes something?How does a man not know what he believes?
Are you suggesting that is a bad thing, or that it is just unnecessary to talk about that?
Assurance that you are really saved comes from the change the Holy Spirit makes in your life. The Bible tells us that the assurance that you really are called and elected to salvation comes from how we live, not from what we claim with our mouths. I mean, even fake believers say they are believers! That's what makes them fake!If That Holy Spirit hangs around long enough, the RESULT of that Spirit will very likely lead you to the Wisdom to Submitting......It SHOULD and probably WILL happen—- it just does not HAVE to to prove you are Saved.
Calm down. I'm just trying to discern your cryptic post. Just explain yourself.to talk about "that?"
Are you serious!
J.
If you do not know what you BELIEVE return to his word. If you do not know if you are His child then get on your knees and PRAY until he blesses you with assurance.
I'm sorry, but this is not how the Bible says to have the assurance that you are really saved.Believe the bible or his word, trust in Him for everything, pray and walk in obedience. Who cares if others say these are works, they lie !
Assurance comes from the peace of God that is shed abroad in our hearts. The sweet communion and warmth of his prescience assures us we are His and are walking uprightly before him.
If you do not know what you BELIEVE return to his word. If you do not know if you are His child then get on your knees and PRAY until he blesses you with assurance.
Only God is correct so let every man and what man says be a lie. Stand firm !
Calm down. I'm just trying to discern your cryptic post. Just explain yourself.
No.I thought I did, didn't I made myself clear enough my brother?
J.
I'm sorry, but this is not how the Bible says to have the assurance that you are really saved.
The love of God shed in our hearts is a valid experience. But even Mormon's claim to have this welling up in the heart. By itself, seeking such an experience can be deceitful. The changed life is where we draw assurance that we belong to the truth. John devoted an entire letter to this subject. It has been largely discarded as untrue by Christians.Okay!
Tell you what ,I'll do as God tells me and assures me and you do you.
I AM NOT THE PATTERN ,GOD IS !
I'm sorry, but this is not how the Bible says to have the assurance that you are really saved.
The love of God shed in our hearts is a valid experience. But even Mormon's claim to have this welling up in the heart. By itself, seeking such an experience can be deceitful. The changed life is where we draw assurance that we belong to the truth. John devoted an entire letter to this subject. It has been largely discarded as untrue by Christians.
From the context what it is it that we diligently show that gives us assurance of our hope?Heb_6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
You didn't cite any of John's verses that explicitly tell us how we know we belong to the truth.1Jn_4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
1Jn_5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn_5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
1Jn_5:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.
1Jn_5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
1Jn_5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
1Jn_5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
How does a man know he really believes something?
How does anyone know if someone else really believes something?
No, don't leave it for God to sort out. John wrote 1 John specifically so the church could identify fake believers. The church he was writing to was being deceived by fake believers/teachers. John taught them how to identify fakes. That lesson is for us today. But almost everyone in the church has rejected his teachings and thinks they are doing something righteous by leaving it for God to sort out.MANY PPL CLAIM MANY THINGS, ILL LEAVE IT FOR GOD TO SORT OUT.
No, you can tell what you or someone else REALLY believes by what they do: Example: I don't have a dime in the stock market. What does that tell you about what I believe about the stock market?Quite simple.
Yes I believe that.
No I do not believe that.
From the context what it is it that we diligently show that gives us assurance of our hope?