GEN2REV
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You forgot to switch Users.
I addressed that to your Devin User Name.
You responded as Johann again.
Oopsie.
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I addressed that to your Devin User Name.
You responded as Johann again.
Oopsie.
GEN2REV
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GEN2REV
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And I knew you would be terrified to reply to post#77.
It's like clock work.
Works every time. :)
My kind?
Next time I hear from you on ignore you go, that's an Imperative.
Matter of fact, there are 5 or 6 that will go on ignore since I am not here wasting my time with holy Joe's
Your 'kind' is here to impose upon those seeking, like a deer that panteth after living waters, Christ Jesus, to squeeze and put out a broken reed and a smoldering flax.
You and I are done.
J.
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ha well it is 42 minutes? im more curious as to why this thread got to five pages w/o appearing in “new posts?”
GEN2REV
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Yeah I knew you'd fold under the weight of such a direct challenge to your lies.
The Commandments are simple and straightforward and those who go around claiming they're impossible to keep, scurry for cover when the Light of Truth shines upon their dark deeds.
He that is in me is greater than he that is in you.
Run and hide, run and hide from the face of Him that sits upon the Throne.
I wonder whether some people become rude as a way to bully someone off of a thread that they are finding increasingly inconvenient. Sometimes it's really seemed that way!
Much love!
mailmandan
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GEN2REV
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It's usually those who leave a thread that are no longer able to defend their position. Especially if their opposition uses constant Scripture to make their case.
Debating Scripture using Scripture is not bullying, as much as you, and others who can't support their arguments with Scripture, would like to believe otherwise.
Yeah I knew you'd fold under the weight of such a direct challenge to your lies.
The Commandments are simple and straightforward and those who go around claiming they're impossible to keep, scurry for cover when the Light of Truth shines upon their dark deeds.
He that is in me is greater than he that is in you.
Run and hide, run and hide from the face of Him that sits upon the Throne.
I'm still here
J.
I will assume by ''the ten'' you mean the ten commandments. Paul stated, when writing to born again christians, that the ten commandments/law engraved in stone was the letter that kills, the ministry of death and condemnation. (2Cor3:6-9)
So, which of them is it impossible not to perfectly keep the letter of? Well we could go through them. However, lets concentrate on one: Thou shalt not covet. That commandment refers to the law relating to the inner man, the law no one but you and God need know you break. Do you perfectly obey that law?
Lets take Jesus literal commands in the Gospels. Over five decades I have met no one who has even tried to obey each and every literal command of Christ in the Gospels.
I'm sorry to have to say this, but anyone who comes on the internet, and claims to fully obey the letter of the ten commandments and Christ's teachings, is either naive, (at best) has a hardened heart, or, something much worse. Jesus reserved his harshest words for the religious pharisees. They crushed the people by demanding of them what they did not even try and follow themselves
But I’m a Good Person!
Are you a good person? Most people believe that they are, but the Bible answers that question differently. Since the Bible is the only authoritative revelation from our Creator, Lawgiver, and Judge, we should look to God’s Word, not society’s changing opinions of “goodness,” for answers.
The Old Testament records the Law (summarized in the 10 Commandments) God gave the nation of Israel. The letter to the Galatians, in the New Testament, says this Law is a “tutor” to bring us to Christ (Galatians 3:24), and Romans 7 speaks of it like a mirror that shows us our own sinfulness.
The 10 Commandments are recorded in Exodus 20. Hold them up as a mirror and see how you measure up:
You shall have no other gods before me.
Have you ever put anyone or anything before God? That is idolatry and is a sin against the God who gives you “life and breath and everything else” (Acts 17:25).
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
Have you ever cursed or used God’s name in a flippant manner? That is called blasphemy, and God does not hold anyone guiltless who uses his holy name in such a way.
You shall not murder.
Think you might be safe on this one? Consider the words of Jesus:
You have heard that it was said to those of old, “You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.” But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment… (Matthew 5:21–22a)
You shall not commit adultery.
Even if you have not committed this act in your flesh, have you committed it in your heart? Jesus said that to even look at another person with lust is to commit adultery in the heart (Matthew 5:28).
That’s only four out of ten! If you stood before God, who is the just Judge of all the earth, would he find you innocent or guilty of breaking his commandments? By God’s perfect standard, every single person is a sinner who deserves the penalty for sin—death.
A cross on a hill
J.
Lifelong_sinner
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just bad theology.
regeneration before faith.
but my question is, are you saying sanctification is done all at once? Or are you saying it just gets started at that moment?
In total honesty, the churches I have been to that most earnestly stress ''you must obey the ten commandments'' are churches where I have seen the most flagrant sinning.
I went to one church to please a friend. A woman was there immaculately dressed with her bible tucked underneath her arm each week. If the minister said something she much approved of she gave a hearty ''Amen'' to his words. She was most insistant you must obey the ten commandments, she was in earnest about this. In my youth, if I had of met her in the church I went to, I would have thought she was the most Godly of people, and I would have felt huge guilt that I could not live my christian life as she must be living hers.
Anyway, in the end I found out this woman was having multiple affairs while she stressed everyone must obey the ten commandments. I said to her one day. 'How can you have all these affairs, you are breaking the Ten Commandments continuously. She shrugged her shoulders and said: ''All sin is equal and no ones perfect''
I could relate many more stories such as that. Sin is simply excused and either trivial, or not really sin. Love is the first casualty in preaching high obedience to the letter of the law
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1Co_1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
1Co_6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
2Ti_2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
Heb_2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
Heb_10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Heb_10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Heb_10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
But ye were washed (apelousasthe). First aorist middle indicative, not passive, of apolouō. Either direct middle, ye washed yourselves, or indirect middle, as in Act_22:16, ye washed your sins away (force of apo). This was their own voluntary act in baptism which was the outward expression of the previous act of God in cleansing (hēgiasthēte, ye were sanctified or cleansed before the baptism) and justified (edikaiōthēte, ye were put right with God before the act of baptism). “These twin conceptions of the Christian state in its beginning appear commonly in the reverse order” (Findlay). The outward expression is usually mentioned before the inward change which precedes it. In this passage the Trinity appear as in the baptismal command in Mat_28:19.
Robertson
Hope this answer your question since my "theology is bad"
J.
Lifelong_sinner
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ok let me rephrase the question, when a person is justified, is a person fully sanctified at that moment? Or is sanctification a process that lasts until death?
I experienced the same in the outreach ministry I was, people naming the name of Christ, but no departing from iniquity, I used to do house visits and found the same thing, the outward profession not matching the style of life.
It would seem that it is perfectly normal in these days to live like the world, act like the world, smell like the world and still say 'I am a Christian'
2Ti_2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Shalom to you and family
J.
GEN2REV
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Paul kept all 10 Commandments.
They are not difficult to keep.
The Holy Spirit assists us in obeying them and James 3:2 makes plain that slipping up while obeying them daily is intended to be part of Christian living. Slipping up is not the same as living daily in habitual sin like yourself and others who refuse to obey.
Coming from a Pharisee yourself, it is absolutely hilarious that you would mention the exact tactic that you are employing with this post.
You live in disobedience to God's Word and teach others to do the same.
Matthew 5:19-20
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