"Please Report Heresy"

[Raccoon1010]

Sounds like it leaves the forum wide open for heretics to attack the Bible. And for Bible believers to be severely attacked and called unChristian. Even by mods.

Christian Forums is more strict, but they're also liberal in my opinion. I'll stick with CB and be happy with what I have to work with. Whether all the people that claim to be Christian are in fact Christian is another issue.

 

[kcnalp]

Like I say, I believe Jesus is God in flesh, but Mark 1:1 says that he is the Son of God, so those who say he is the Son of God can make a case.

John 5:18 (NKJV)
18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

ONLY God is "equal with God".

Jesus is God.

 

[amigo de christo]

Sounds like it leaves the forum wide open for heretics to attack the Bible. And for Bible believers to be severely attacked and called unChristian. Even by mods.

Lambs may as well understand that they wont be loved , even by many who profess to be christain .
The lambs must protect the lambs . And to do so we must learn those bibles well and instruct others with that bible .
Cling to it . Let no man take thy crown with their mixed doctrine . Stay in the scriptures and feast from them
as a baby lamb its mothers teet .

 

[Raccoon1010]

Lambs may as well understand that they wont be loved , even by many who profess to be christain .
The lambs must protect the lambs . And to do so we must learn those bibles well and instruct others with that bible .
Cling to it . Let no man take thy crown with their mixed doctrine . Stay in the scriptures and feast from them
as a baby lamb its mothers teet .

Great @amigo de christo , but to a "baby lamb its mothers teet". We're all adults here and many of us are men. We eat steak and potatoes.

 

[amigo de christo]

Great @amigo de christo , but to a "baby lamb its mothers teet". We're all adults here and many of us are men. We eat steak and potatoes.

But most ought to return to the pure milk of the word that they indeed may truly grow thereby .

 

[amigo de christo]

Its six oclock my friends . Another hour to praise and thank the glorious LORD .

 

[Raccoon1010]

But most ought to return to the pure milk of the word that they indeed may truly grow thereby .

Yes that's true, I was trying to be constructive. Perhaps leaving out the teet might yield better imagery when we read it. Something like "many of us need milk before meat" like what the bible says.

Hebrews 5:13-14

King James Version

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes that's true, I was trying to be constructive. Perhaps leaving out the teet might yield better imagery when we read it. Something like "many of us need milk before meat" like what the bible says.

Hebrews 5:13-14

King James Version

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Thats true too . I was just hoping the visual of a hungry baby lamb grabbed hold on its mothers teet
would give some the impression that we ought to be feasting on that bible daily , LIKE THAT . LIKE its our food . IT IS .
Now let all that draws breath , leap up and praise the glorious Lord .

 

[Raccoon1010]

Thats true too . I was just hoping the visual of a hungry baby lamb grabbed hold on its mothers teet
would give some the impression that we ought to be feasting on that bible daily , LIKE THAT . LIKE its our food . IT IS .
Now let all that draws breath , leap up and praise the glorious Lord .

Just trying to help out with the rules of the forum. I'm not sure if your language is considered graphic, but to me it was near the line: Everyone:

• No vulgar/obscene language or images. We are mostly adults here, but younger audiences frequent this forum as well. Please refrain from using offensive language in light of this. This is, by far not, just limited to swearing, and includes graphic language or content of sexual nature.

 

[Mayflower]

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I found this on another Christian site.

Hmmm depends on the rules I guess. It is neat for some forums run like a church. This post would be like going into a church and teaching things the church doesn't believe. Or even just secular stuff of the world.

But then there are evangelistic forums that allow the discussion. So Idk. I try not to report if I do not have too... But I agree with these Biblical teachings, so if I saw this on a forum, I more then likely would report them... I like that there are places with likeness of mind. A place like CB though, where there are non trinitarian members and staff, it is a good place, because it provides an opportunity to discuss things. Because we are all learning and growing. Just leave me out of the debate... I'll share what I know from scripture, and read at times to learn how to defend my views, but it gets too heated for me.

 

[amigo de christo]

Just trying to help out with the rules of the forum. I'm not sure if your language is considered graphic, but to me it was near the line: Everyone:

• No vulgar/obscene language or images. We are mostly adults here, but younger audiences frequent this forum as well. Please refrain from using offensive language in light of this. This is, by far not, just limited to swearing, and includes graphic language or content of sexual nature.

If you ever worked around jewish shepards or ranchers or etc , beleive me its not graphic .
Even what the lady said to JESUS was not graphic . She said blessed are the paps which thou has sucked .
its not graphic my friend . Its just how the speech with ranchers or jewish shepards and etc simply is .
You are loved my friend .

 

[Raccoon1010]

If you ever worked around jewish shepards or ranchers or etc , beleive me its not graphic .
Even what the lady said to JESUS was not graphic . She said blessed are the paps which thou has sucked .
its not graphic my friend . Its just how the speech with ranchers or jewish shepards and etc simply is .
You are loved my friend .

OK, so I noticed that you used that same line with me the other day. And I would appreciate it if you didn't tell me to be like a lamb latching onto to it's mothers teet. The bible is talking about someone else, not me personally, so it's different. Thanks.

 

[Bob Estey]

John 5:18 (NKJV)
18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

ONLY God is "equal with God".

Jesus is God.

I don’t think that verse proves your point. I think the best verse to support the belief that Jesus is God in flesh is this:

"Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son,
and his name shall be called Emmanuel"
(which means, God with us). Matthew 1:23 RSV

 

[kcnalp]

I don’t think that verse proves your point. I think the best verse to support the belief that Jesus is God in flesh is this:

"Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son,
and his name shall be called Emmanuel"
(which means, God with us). Matthew 1:23 RSV

Jesus is "equal with God" doesn't prove He's God? Who else is "equal with God"?

 

[kcnalp]

So you are saying if I don't believe in the nature of God the same way as you do, then I am a heretic and should be reported. One example: The nature of God and Jesus and the Holy Ghost has been debated for 2,000 years. It will debated until Jesus comes a second time. The reason for the debate is the scriptures support many interpretations of who God and Jesus and the Holy Ghost are. So to call me a heretic because I do not believe in the Trinity the way you do is inappropriate, knowing that my belief is as biblical as your belief.

2 John 1:9-10 (NKJV)
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;

Somebody is in DEEP trouble.

 

[APAK]

I think the best verse to support the belief that Jesus is God in flesh is this:

"Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son,
and his name shall be called Emmanuel"
(which means, God with us). Matthew 1:23 RSV

Hello Estey and welcome here:

Emmanuel does not mean that the destined Son of God is actually God, the one true Creator at all. One just cannot read the verse as for a modern reader for today. His Father is the source of all this work as he was with and whist his Son was on the earth and the same today in heaven.

Who then is really with the people or 'us,' and then why is he with 'us'? Let me given a short commentary of the word (I)Emmanuel as applied to the Son of God as you quoted Matthew 1:23:

Emmanuel or Immanuel is written down in four places of scripture: Isaiah 7:14, 8:8, 10, and in Matthew 1:23.

From the Hebrew language it means in English, 'God (be)(is) with us. Intended primarily for or to a wide audience of people, not just to a specific person.

In the OT, this expression was a cry to God, usually during war, to intervene on behalf of his people and to destroy their enemies. For God to be and stay with his people to bring victory over their enemies.

In fact, the common salutation or greeting to each other is derived from this expression Immanuel. It was also used for a smaller audience and individuals. The sincere greeting for hope in the assurance that God would be at their side and intervene and protect them from their enemies and against evil.

It is the hope and cry to save or deliver them from despair, fear and death. That YHWH or God shall save them.

Mary's name to be given to her son is more precisely derived from Hebrew, Yahshua, or a close variant of it, and not surprisingly, the name Jesus . Jesus was never intended to be placed into scripture. It is a Latinized Greek word of no scriptural meaning. Joshua would be a valid name, meaning YHWH delivers or saves (to freedom). And he did of course, as his people inhabited the Promised land.

Now there is a direct relationship between Yahshua and Emmanuel.

Yahshua means 'Yah' or God from YHWH and 'Shua' means, to save by bending down low as a helpless and humble servant.

Together then, Yahshua means Yah or God saves by or through his humble lowly servant.

Adding in the meaning of Emmanuel with Yahshua, we get:

Yahshua + Emmanuel = > God shall save his people from death, in and by his humble lowly servant.

Emmanuel thus amplified or provides more detail into the 'called' birth name of Yahshua and his nature.

YHWH was with his people, in his Son, indeed. No one has seen the Father, only the Son. The Father lives in Yahshua, deep in his bosom.

The Son of God executed the will of his Father. He reads and sees the thoughts, expressions and actions of his Father, whilst he was on earth and now n heaven. He is the executioner of his Father's will as the head of the church and soon to be ruler of the earth.

Emmanuel indeed!

Blessings,

APAK

 

[Bob Estey]

Jesus is "equal with God" doesn't prove He's God? Who else is "equal with God"?

Trinitarians believe there are three beings who have joined forces as God, don't they?

 

[Bob Estey]

Hello Estey and welcome here:

Emmanuel does not mean that the destined Son of God is actually God, the one true Creator at all. One just cannot read the verse as for a modern reader for today. His Father is the source of all this work as he was with and whist his Son was on the earth and the same today in heaven.

Who then is really with the people or 'us,' and then why is he with 'us'? Let me given a short commentary of the word (I)Emmanuel as applied to the Son of God as you quoted Matthew 1:23:

Emmanuel or Immanuel is written down in four places of scripture: Isaiah 7:14, 8:8, 10, and in Matthew 1:23.

From the Hebrew language it means in English, 'God (be)(is) with us. Intended primarily for or to a wide audience of people, not just to a specific person.

In the OT, this expression was a cry to God, usually during war, to intervene on behalf of his people and to destroy their enemies. For God to be and stay with his people to bring victory over their enemies.

In fact, the common salutation or greeting to each other is derived from this expression Immanuel. It was also used for a smaller audience and individuals. The sincere greeting for hope in the assurance that God would be at their side and intervene and protect them from their enemies and against evil.

It is the hope and cry to save or deliver them from despair, fear and death. That YHWH or God shall save them.

Mary's name to be given to her son is more precisely derived from Hebrew, Yahshua, or a close variant of it, and not surprisingly, the name Jesus . Jesus was never intended to be placed into scripture. It is a Latinized Greek word of no scriptural meaning. Joshua would be a valid name, meaning YHWH delivers or saves (to freedom). And he did of course, as his people inhabited the Promised land.

Now there is a direct relationship between Yahshua and Emmanuel.

Yahshua means 'Yah' or God from YHWH and 'Shua' means, to save by bending down low as a helpless and humble servant.

Together then, Yahshua means Yah or God saves by or through his humble lowly servant.

Adding in the meaning of Emmanuel with Yahshua, we get:

Yahshua + Emmanuel = > God shall save his people from death, in and by his humble lowly servant.

Emmanuel thus amplified or provides more detail into the 'called' birth name of Yahshua and his nature.

YHWH was with his people, in his Son, indeed. No one has seen the Father, only the Son. The Father lives in Yahshua, deep in his bosom.

The Son of God executed the will of his Father. He reads and sees the thoughts, expressions and actions of his Father, whilst he was on earth and now n heaven. He is the executioner of his Father's will as the head of the church and soon to be ruler of the earth.

Emmanuel indeed!

Blessings,

APAK

I would think "God with us" means that he is God in flesh.

 

[kcnalp]

Trinitarians believe there are three beings who have joined forces as God, don't they?

There's only one God of the Bible, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. "Name" is singular.

Matthew 28:19 (NKJV)
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

 

[Bob Estey]

There's only one God of the Bible, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. "Name" is singular.

Matthew 28:19 (NKJV)
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

I would agree with that, but I believe I was pointing out that a case could be made that Jesus is the Son of God (because that's exactly who Mark called him).