Timtofly
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That is not the symbolism in Revelation 12. John calls them a third of the stars. How do humans attack heaven?How do you think the angels are bound? How does one bind a spirit being?
These human messengers of Satan are bound in death, having died in unbelief, and they will remain bound until ALL the dead are bodily resurrected to life or damnation. In the same way certain unbelievers, human messengers of Satan are found among the body of Christ on earth, so too in days of old human messengers of Satan, sons/daughters of men, intermingled with the children (sons/daughters) of God, and so polluted mankind through their lasciviousness, denying God, and like their first parents desired to be a god unto themselves, they left the safety of God, just as A&E chose to leave the safety of paradise and were barred from the tree of life. They are being held in darkness, silence in unbelief until the Judgment Day.
Jude 4-6 (KJV) For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. And the angels (human messengers) which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
2 Peter 2:3-6 (KJV) And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels (human messengers) that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
The body + spirit = living souls! The spirit gives life to our physical bodies, and with life is called "living souls". When the body of a believer physically dies, he/she through the Spirit of Christ in them ascend to heaven still having life through our spirit. Therefore, in heaven the spirit alive is also called a "living soul". To be a living soul equals possessing life either through our natural spirit that every living breathing creature has, or supernaturally through the supernatural work of the Spirit in us.
"And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth."
Who started out in heaven and ended up bound in chains of darkness? Certainly not humans. It was the stars not humans in those verses you quoted. They were cast down before the Flood. They were loosed from those chains of darkness in the first woe. The first woe is tied to the 5th Trumpet, when Satan is allowed to loose his fellow stars, angels which then attack heaven itself. That is when they are cast out of heaven by Michael and his stars, angels.
What do you have against 2 Corinthians 5:1 where the soul leaves this temporal corruptible body, for God's permanent incorruptible physical body?