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Oseas

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continuation from above

roman dominion

63 to 4 B.C. - Herod, Roman vassal king, rules the Land of Israel - Jerusalem temple is renovated

BIRTH OF JESUS-the promised Messiah-Fulfilment of Daniel 9:v.24


God sent/sends JESUS and establishes the second covenant, for putting an end to the transgression, for making an end of sin, for forgiving iniquity, for bringing in everlasting Justice, for setting the seal on vision and prophet, and for anointing the Especially Holy Place. - Daniel 9:v.24


Simultaneously, GOD sent/sends Elyjah: Matt.11:12-15-CJB:
12 From the time of Yochanan the Immerser until now, the Kingdom of Heaven has been suffering violence; yes, violent ones are trying to snatch it away.
13 For all the prophets and the Torah prophesied until Yochanan.
14 Indeed, if you are willing to accept it, he is Eliyahu, whose coming was predicted (by Isaiah and Malachi).
15 If you have ears, then hear!

- 30 to 33 Ministry of Jesus of Nazareth after ending 69 weeks.


JESUS is killed. JESUS is crucified. Fulfilment of Dan.9:v.26-CJB:

26 - Then, after the sixty-two weeks, Mashiach (Messiah) will be cut off and have nothing.

Thats it.
 

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Some have said that "Jerusalem" on earth is the "city" which sits on 7 hills of Revelation 17. This is not so from the very context of Revelation 12, 13 & 17, not the least of which is Daniel 2, 7, 8-12.

The very context showed that it is Rome, even beginning from Revelation 1, the very place which exiled John to Patmos:


John wrote:

Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.​

Jerusalem at the time of John's writing (present tense) the Revelation was definitely not reigning over anything. It was no longer existing as a city, having been wiped out by Titus in AD 70. John was no longer concerned about natural Jerusalem or natural Babylon, but now concerned with spiritual Jerusalem, and spiritual Babylon, even as he was about spiritual Egypt.
 

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Some have said that "Jerusalem" on earth is the "city" which sits on 7 hills of Revelation 17. This is not so from the very context of Revelation 12, 13 & 17, not the least of which is Daniel 2, 7, 8-12.
The very context showed that it is Rome, even beginning from Revelation 1, the very place which exiled John to Patmos:

You are right. Jerusalem has nothing to do with 7 hills of Revelation 17 physically, but nothing.

Scriptures reveals that the 7 heads of the Man Beast of sea are two things, as follow:

(1) The seven heads are 7 mountains,
on which the WOMAN sitteth. Revelation 17:v.9; (The woman is the RCC)

(2) And there are 7 kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. Rev.17:v.10


(1) the 7 mountains

The theory from that the 7 heads (7 mountains) are the 7 hills of Rome,
exactly where the Vatican City was/is built, its very very old. You are right. I agree with you that physically Jerusalem has nothing to do with 7 hills of Revelation 17, but nothing.

On the other hand, you will be astonished that the biblical 7 mountains -Revelation 17:v.9- also has nothing to do with the 7 hills of Rome physically. Why is this my conclusion?

Firstly we must see that one of the 7 heads (mountains) will be wounded to death, will be wounded mortally. Literally speaking, can a mountain be mortally wounded? Of course not, to say this would be ridiculous, meaningless.

Second we must understand that the woman is sitting on the 7 heads (7 mountains) of the Beast of sea, and simultaneously she is sitting also on the waters that are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues-Rev.17:v.15.

Well, we know that peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues, symbolized by waters, they are located in the 7 regions of the planet Earth: these regions are Europe, and Asia, Africa, Oceania(Australia), and three Americas: North, South and Central America, where the woman is sitting really. Why am I saying this for you, and all?

It because I am trying to explain why I don't share with the theory that the 7 mountains are the 7 hills where is built the Vatican City.

These 7 hills have nothing to do with the inhabitants of the Earth physically (there is no peoples, no nations and multitudes and tongues), these are not located on the 7 hills of Rome, but on the 7 regions of the Earth, of course.
But there is an interesting detail: The peoples, and nations, and multitudes, and tongues, are not located physically on the seven hills of Rome - Vatican City - the headquarter of the Beast of sea, but they are linked SPIRITUALLY to the seven hills of Rome.

On the other hand, the 7 heads are also 7 kings, also linked to Beast of sea, but this is another matter.

God bless
 

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All (every single one of the) time prophecies in scripture are indeed 'contiguous', and not a single one not so.
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That idea is so funny, and to think you did all that work for nothing.

Jesus of Nazareth came to this earth in 4 B.C., born through woman's womb, and died on the cross in 29 A.D., and The Father raised Him from the dead, and He ascended into Heaven, and we are STILL WAITING TODAY for His PROPHESIED RETURN TO THIS EARTH! How big a GAP is that???

Acts 1:9-12
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
KJV

Rev 1:7
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
KJV

Luke 21:27
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
KJV

Mark 13:24-27
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
KJV

Zech 14:4-5
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
KJV
 

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That idea is so funny, and to think you did all that work for nothing.

Jesus of Nazareth came to this earth in 4 B.C., born through woman's womb, and died on the cross in 29 A.D., and The Father raised Him from the dead, and He ascended into Heaven, and we are STILL WAITING TODAY for His PROPHESIED RETURN TO THIS EARTH! How big a GAP is that???

Acts 1:9-12
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
KJV

Rev 1:7
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
KJV

Luke 21:27
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
KJV

Mark 13:24-27
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
KJV

Zech 14:4-5
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
KJV
29AD places Nisan 15, the day of Passover, landing on a Sunday. How did they prepare for the Passover that year, when the Passover was on Resurrection Sunday?