Psalms 83 unfolding

[Keraz]

Israel has deployed warships to the Red Sea after Yemen’s Houthis declared war and launched a ballistic missile at an Israeli city.

Images released by the Israeli military showed Sa’ar-class corvettes patrolling near Eilat port in the Red Sea, which Israel sees as a new front as its war in Gaza draws retaliation from Iran-backed forces elsewhere in the region.

On Tuesday, the Houthis said they had launched three drone and missile attacks towards Israel since the start of the Hamas-Israel war on October 7. They vowed there would be more such attacks “to help the Palestinians to victory”.

The Israeli military used its Arrow missile defence system for the first time to intercept an “aerial threat” over the Red Sea, believed to have been a ballistic missile. Quote Reuters.

Israel now faces war on 4 fronts and Iran, who is supporting all of them, is just waiting for the right moment to finish it with their nuke missiles.
But they don't know the Lords plans: to destroy them all. Micah 4:11-12
Note; in Micah 5:1, that Israels leader will be shot and wounded if not killed. THEN - Iran will see their opportunity! Result = Ezekiel 32:25-26, Jermiah 49:35-37

 

[Keraz]

Events now unfolding in the Middle East are rapidly bringing closer the apocalyptic scenario as predicted in many prophetic scriptures, mainly Psalms 83, Revelation 6:12-17, Joel 2:1-11, Zephaniah 3:8, Zechariah 12:1-10. As described, the Lord Himself intervenes and destroys a massive attack from an Islamic confederation. The Messiah Jesus reveals Himself personally to the people surviving in Israel. Isaiah 6:13, Isaiah 29:1-4 At this time, those remnant Christian Jews will receive a spirit of compassion and will mourn ‘over Him whom they pierced. Zechariah 12:10-14.

Psalms 83 begins by describing a united conspiracy against Israel. Their aim is total annihilation of the Jewish State of Israel, to occupy all the Land and to wipe out any remembrance of them. Although each of the tribal groups mentioned is a historic enemy of Israel and has fought against them on various occasions, there is no record that they ever joined in such an alliance. All of the modern nations who are descendants of the peoples mentioned in Psalms 83, are currently obsessed with an Islamic inspired determination to completely eliminate the Jewish State of Israel.

Psalms 81:13-15 O that My people would listen to Me, that Israel would walk in My ways! I would soon subdue their enemies and turn My hand against their adversaries. The haters of the Lord pretend submission to Him, but their fate will endure forever.
Verse 15 tells of a people who hate God when they think in their minds that they submit to Him. The word Islam, means submitters to god: their god, Allah.

So then, when we read in Psalms 83:2 For your enemies raise an uproar, those who hate you hold their heads high, it is saying that the enemies mentioned, are those who believe they submit to God, but in reality are full of religious pride and are in fact haters of the true God.

Psalms 83:18 So let it be known that You, whose name is Jesus are alone the Most High over all the earth.
The reason that the Lord will be so powerfully victorious in this coming war, is to witness to all unbelievers, especially the Ishmaelite peoples, who will then recognise the true religion and Islam will be discredited.

The writer of Psalms 83, the prophet Asaph, prays that Israel’s current enemies will be just as soundly defeated as were the Midianites, etc, when their armies were scattered and their leaders executed. When this prayer is answered, the holy Land will be a much bigger country, it will include all the area given by God to Abraham. Isaiah 25:13, Micah 7:11

There will be a terrible loss of life, as well as large numbers of refugees, who will flee from all the Mid east countries. But a holy remnant will survive in Jerusalem. After the Land is cleaned and regenerated, then all the true descendants of Jacob and those grafted in, all the Christian Israelites of God, will be motivated to emigrate to the New Israel. [Beulah; Isaiah 62:1-5] There, they will be an example to the world of how all should live and 144,000 of them will go out to all peoples and preach the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Revelation 14:1-7, Isaiah 66:19.

 

[Davy]

NOT time yet for the destruction of those nations that come up against Israel.

We are NOT at the 'last day' of this world just yet.

Disregarding the prophecies for the end about the coming false worship to a false-Messiah in JERUSALEM for the very end does not prove we are already at the 'last day' of this world.

 

[Keraz]

NOT time yet for the destruction of those nations that come up against Israel.

We are NOT at the 'last day' of this world just yet.

Disregarding the prophecies for the end about the coming false worship to a false-Messiah in JERUSALEM for the very end does not prove we are already at the 'last day' of this world.

Its always nicer to think nothing will happen during my time on earth.
However, since the Second world war, we who are alive now, have experienced an unusual time of peace and security, with the benefits of modern knowledge and technology.

Regarding Psalms 83, in no way will its [imminent] fulfilment be the end of the world. But it will be the start of the end of this age, leading up to the glorious Return of Jesus to reign for the next thousand years.
It will be the Sixth Seal event, then Revelation 7 follows and the rest of Revelation until Eternity.

So we: the people of the 'baby boomers' and now 'Generation X', are facing dramatic and earth shaking trials and testing's. We must stand firm and hold onto the Lords Promises for protection, to get thru it all without losing our faith and trust in Him.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Events now unfolding in the Middle East are rapidly bringing closer the apocalyptic scenario as predicted in many prophetic scriptures, mainly Psalms 83, Revelation 6:12-17, Joel 2:1-11, Zephaniah 3:8, Zechariah 12:1-10. As described, the Lord Himself intervenes and destroys a massive attack from an Islamic confederation. The Messiah Jesus reveals Himself personally to the people surviving in Israel. Isaiah 6:13, Isaiah 29:1-4 At this time, those remnant Christian Jews will receive a spirit of compassion and will mourn ‘over Him whom they pierced. Zechariah 12:10-14.

Psalms 83 begins by describing a united conspiracy against Israel. Their aim is total annihilation of the Jewish State of Israel, to occupy all the Land and to wipe out any remembrance of them. Although each of the tribal groups mentioned is a historic enemy of Israel and has fought against them on various occasions, there is no record that they ever joined in such an alliance. All of the modern nations who are descendants of the peoples mentioned in Psalms 83, are currently obsessed with an Islamic inspired determination to completely eliminate the Jewish State of Israel.

Psalms 81:13-15 O that My people would listen to Me, that Israel would walk in My ways! I would soon subdue their enemies and turn My hand against their adversaries. The haters of the Lord pretend submission to Him, but their fate will endure forever.
Verse 15 tells of a people who hate God when they think in their minds that they submit to Him. The word Islam, means submitters to god: their god, Allah.

So then, when we read in Psalms 83:2 For your enemies raise an uproar, those who hate you hold their heads high, it is saying that the enemies mentioned, are those who believe they submit to God, but in reality are full of religious pride and are in fact haters of the true God.

Psalms 83:18 So let it be known that You, whose name is Jesus are alone the Most High over all the earth.
The reason that the Lord will be so powerfully victorious in this coming war, is to witness to all unbelievers, especially the Ishmaelite peoples, who will then recognise the true religion and Islam will be discredited.

The writer of Psalms 83, the prophet Asaph, prays that Israel’s current enemies will be just as soundly defeated as were the Midianites, etc, when their armies were scattered and their leaders executed. When this prayer is answered, the holy Land will be a much bigger country, it will include all the area given by God to Abraham. Isaiah 25:13, Micah 7:11

There will be a terrible loss of life, as well as large numbers of refugees, who will flee from all the Mid east countries. But a holy remnant will survive in Jerusalem. After the Land is cleaned and regenerated, then all the true descendants of Jacob and those grafted in, all the Christian Israelites of God, will be motivated to emigrate to the New Israel. [Beulah; Isaiah 62:1-5] There, they will be an example to the world of how all should live and 144,000 of them will go out to all peoples and preach the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Revelation 14:1-7, Isaiah 66:19.

Well this is the fifth major war of survival from multiple enemies Israel is fighting since its rebirth.

The biggie will be the Russian invasion with its allies before teh 70th week of Daniel begins.

 

[Davy]

Its always nicer to think nothing will happen during my time on earth.
However, since the Second world war, we who are alive now, have experienced an unusual time of peace and security, with the benefits of modern knowledge and technology.

Regarding Psalms 83, in no way will its [imminent] fulfilment be the end of the world. But it will be the start of the end of this age, leading up to the glorious Return of Jesus to reign for the next thousand years.
It will be the Sixth Seal event, then Revelation 7 follows and the rest of Revelation until Eternity.

So we: the people of the 'baby boomers' and now 'Generation X', are facing dramatic and earth shaking trials and testing's. We must stand firm and hold onto the Lords Promises for protection, to get thru it all without losing our faith and trust in Him.

The coming of the Antichrist-false Messiah happens BEFORE the last part of the 6th Seal event. That goes to show just how far your understanding of Biblical timing is off.

 

[Keraz]

The coming of the Antichrist-false Messiah happens BEFORE the last part of the 6th Seal event. That goes to show just how far your understanding of Biblical timing is off.

Your belief goes to show how you shuffle Revelation, in order to make your theorys and speculations fit.

 

[Davy]

Your belief goes to show how you shuffle Revelation, in order to make your theorys and speculations fit.

That above in psychology is called 'projection'. It is when someone who refuses to admit error tries to transfer it upon something or someone else.

 

[Keraz]

That above in psychology is called 'projection'. It is when someone who refuses to admit error tries to transfer it upon something or someone else.

The error is yours. The given sequence of events in Revelation is the Sixth Seal comes before Gods people gather into the holy Land.

Shifting the SS until the Return of Jesus, is untenable; as Seals must be removed before a scroll is opened.

 

[ewq1938]

Shifting the SS until the Return of Jesus, is untenable; as Seals must be removed before a scroll is opened.

The 6th seal describes what the second coming will be like. It is a prophecy and preview of the SC that happens in real time at the last trumpet, Rev 11.

 

[Keraz]

Th 6th seal describes what the second coming will be like. It is a prophecy and preview of the SC that happens in real time at the last trumpet, Rev 11.

This opinion is not what the Bible tells us.
That you are wrong is proved by the 7th Trumpet not being when Jesus Returns, as the seven Bowls come next and Jesus Returns on the Seventh Bowl; which is Armageddon.

Revelation 19:11-21 tells us what happens at the glorious Return. It has nothing in common with the Sixth Seal.

 

[quietthinker]

This opinion is not what the Bible tells us.
That you are wrong is proved by the 7th Trumpet not being when Jesus Returns, as the seven Bowls come next and Jesus Returns on the Seventh Bowl; which is Armageddon.

Revelation 19:11-21 tells us what happens at the glorious Return. It has nothing in common with the Sixth Seal.

Keraz, you are so enarmoured with your interpretation I suspect that even if God stepped down from heaven and told you differently you would not believe him.

 

[ewq1938]

This opinion is not what the Bible tells us.
That you are wrong is proved by the 7th Trumpet not being when Jesus Returns, as the seven Bowls come next and Jesus Returns on the Seventh Bowl; which is Armageddon.

Scripture says Jesus returns at the last trumpet, not the last bowl. He is in the clouds before Armageddon takes place.

Revelation 19:11-21 tells us what happens at the glorious Return. It has nothing in common with the Sixth Seal.

Except both describe a day of wrath involving Jesus.

 

[Keraz]

Scripture says Jesus returns at the last trumpet, not the last bowl. He is in the clouds before Armageddon takes place.

Revelation 11:15-19 does not say that Jesus comes to the earth at that time.
Revelation 19:11-21 does describe the glorious Return.

Your ideas make the punishments of the Seven Bowls, happen after Jesus has Returned. Impossible!

Except both describe a day of wrath involving Jesus.

Revelation 15:1 plainly states that the wrath of God is over after the 7 plagues are completed, As described in Revelation 16:1-21
The reference to the wrath of God in Rev 19:15b, is to past events.

The failure of people to see and understand the next Prophesied event; the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, Luke 21:25-26, +, leaves people unaware and unprepared for it. Could be a very difficult and traumatic time for them.

 

[Keraz]

Keraz, you are so enarmoured with your interpretation I suspect that even if God stepped down from heaven and told you differently you would not believe him.

God did come down from heaven, in the form of Jesus. Most of His Prophesies are plainly set out in the Book of Revelation.
Believe them, or remain in the dark. 1 Thess 5:1-11

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The error is yours. The given sequence of events in Revelation is the Sixth Seal comes before Gods people gather into the holy Land.

Shifting the SS until the Return of Jesus, is untenable; as Seals must be removed before a scroll is opened.

Well God has been gathering HIs covenant nation to Israel since 1948.

 

[ewq1938]

Revelation 11:15-19 does not say that Jesus comes to the earth at that time.

It's the last trumpet which other scripture states Jesus will return. This would be the first moments of the day of the second coming. The rest of that day is covered in other passages.

Revelation 19:11-21 does describe the glorious Return.

Part of it, basically the end of the day of the return but there are other moments not described like His being on Mt Zion, and people seeing him and how the react in the 6th seal.

Your ideas make the punishments of the Seven Bowls, happen after Jesus has Returned. Impossible!

He returns before the bowls pour.

Revelation 15:1 plainly states that the wrath of God is over after the 7 plagues are completed,

So? Hopefully everyone already understands that. The wrath of God will start again after the Millennium.

As described in Revelation 16:1-21
The reference to the wrath of God in Rev 19:15b, is to past events.

The battle of Armageddon has not started or finished in the timeframe of Rev 16. That is just the enemy getting to the battle area. The battle doesn't start until Rev 19 which is not a depiction of events that happened in the past.

The failure of people to see and understand the next Prophesied event; the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, Luke 21:25-26, +, leaves people unaware and unprepared for it. Could be a very difficult and traumatic time for them.

Advanced knowledge and understanding is to recognize that the 6th seal is speaking of future events related to the second coming. The events do not happen when the seal is opened.

 

[ewq1938]

Well God has been gathering HIs covenant nation to Israel since 1948.

Former covenant nation. That covenant is no more. The new covenant is with Christians of all nations.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Former covenant nation. That covenant is no more. The new covenant is with Christians of all nations.

Current covenant nation! The New covenant was made to israel.

God foretold of His dispersing and then regathering His chosen people (Israel) in the end times.

God made this an eternal covenant- that means forever!

Ez. 37-39 show Israel is still Gods people.

Jer. 31:31-34 still show Israel is Gods covenant people.

Ez. 20:33-38 shows Israel is still gods covenant people.

Zech. 13:8-9 shows Israel is still Gods covenant people

Matt. 23: 37-38 shows I srael is still gods covenant people!

Romans 11:1-5 show that Israel is still Gods covenant people.

Romans 11:11-15 Show that Israel is still Gods covenant people

Romans 11:25-31 shows that Israel is still Gods covenant people

Rev. 12 shows that Israel is still Gods covenant people.

There are many more. These are just the ones off the top of my head that show God has not forsaken His covenants and promises to Israel.

 

[07-07-07]

Former covenant nation. That covenant is no more. The new covenant is with Christians of all nations.

God's covenant with Abraham still stands.