Marcus O'Reillius
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There are two people, to deny that is to deny the fact that for two thousand years we have had Jew and Christian.keras said:The erroneous conclusion is Two People,
Is rabbi keras' conclusion of error in error? Yes...
In fact, he would throw the Jews out entirely.
Which, of course, makes for two people.keras said:Jews, are just another of the ungodly nations.
Then rabbi keras shows his ignorance of what God has promised in the past, saying there are not two promises...
There is the New Covenant - which the Jews forsake.keras said:(The erroneous conclusion is) Two Promises
But while the Jews forsake Jesus, there is an unfulfilled covenant which God has made with them: the Davidic Covenant.
Jesus' first Advent - again which the Jews deny - satisfies part of the Davidic Covenant -- 1Chr 7:11-14:
(And when Jesus says the Kingdom of God is upon you, He is not "confirming" or making the Davidic Covenant stronger: He is fulfilling it.)
Moreover, I tell you that the Lord will build a house for you. 11 When your days are fulfilled that you must go to be with your fathers, that I will set up one of your descendants after you, who will be of your sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 12 He shall build for Me a house, and I will establish his throne forever. 13 I will be his father and he shall be My son; and I will not take My lovingkindness away from him, as I took it from him who was before you. 14 But I will settle him in My house and in My kingdom forever, and his throne shall be established forever."'" 15 According to all these words and according to all this vision, so Nathan spoke to David.
Still, this portion of the Davidic Covenant, which is unconditional, remains:
2Sam 7:10 I will also appoint a place for My people Israel and will plant them, that they may live in their own place and not be disturbed again, nor will the wicked afflict them any more as formerly, 11 even from the day that I commanded judges to be over My people Israel; and I will give you rest from all your enemies.
This has NEVER happened. This promise has YET to be fulfilled. As a matter of fact: the statue of Nebuchadnezzar shows how the nations will rule over Israel. Isn't it interesting that the Chinese dynasties, which rivaled Rome in both size, power, and length of history - are not mentioned? Is it because God did not foresee them? NO! It is because they have no role over Israel's history.
Do the Jews have rest from the muslim arabs that bomb, stab, shoot, and bomb them? No!
Do the Jews in Israel have complete independence from the Western powers that still rule against them at the UN? No!
This portion of the Davidic Covenant remains unfulfilled.
And does rabbi keras not know of the Davidic Covenant? It would seem he doesn't!
So there ARE Two Promises. In fact, there are more than Two.
Is rabbi keras saying that God cannot fulfill His Promise to the Jews?
Yes and no.
rabbi keras throws the Jews under the bus and then replaces them with Christians.
To say as rabbi keras does, that the Jews are lost - is to say that God cannot save them.
That is NOT what Paul, a Jew, says!
Rom 11:1 I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew.
This flies in the face of Replacement Theology which rabbi keras teaches to the blind.
There will be a Remnant of the Jews.
This is part of the end-time prophecy.
Paul talks about it here, going back to the Prophets:
"I have kept for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal." Rom 11:5 In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God's gracious choice.
This is written in Revelation:
Speaking of the "Woman" "Israel" - and the image in Rev 12:1 is explained in Genesis 37:9-11 as being the Hebrew nation of
Rev 12:5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. 6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she *had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
And again here, in the second of the two twin parallel accounts of Revelation chapter 12:
13 And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. 14 But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she could fly into the wilderness to her place, where she *was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood. 16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth. 17 So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
The difference between JEW and CHRISTIAN is shown in verse 17.
THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE.
We are the offspring of the Woman.
She is the natural branch.
Israel was the olive tree that went "wild" and became unfruitful.
When an olive tree is not pruned, it will go "wild" and it will stop producing fruit.
THE ONLY WAY TO RESTORE AN OLIVE TREE WHICH HAS GONE WILD IS TO CUT IT DOWN LEAVING A STUMP.
THEN, AND ONLY THEN, WILL A SHOOT COME UP.
That shoot will grow into a tree.
And if that tree is pruned and maintained, it will bear fruit again.
Jesus cut off the unfruitful Jews.
He Himself, then becomes the tree into which we are a part.
We were of other trees.
We have been grafted into the "shoot" of Jesus sprung out of the root of Jesse.
And if we have been grafted into this Jewish tree - cannot the natural branches, which have been cut down, and set to the side, not be rejoined?
That is the argument Paul makes here.
Rom 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in." 20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?
The whole purpose of the Millennium is to graft the Remnant back into the tree of Jesus.
In this way, TWO PEOPLE are UNITED IN CHRIST.
And during the Millennium - God WILL FULFILL that part of the Davidic Covenant to the Jews.