REVELATION

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JLMichaels

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INTRODUCTIONThis will be a brief walk through the bible book Revelation as it was give to me by GOD's Holy Spirit. This came about by my own personal request to GOD for a more fuller understanding of this most perplexing book as I saw it. There is ever so much commantary by man which still left me with more questions than answers as well. So the personal request to GOD for His guidance.The first thing GOD's Holy Spirit pointed out was that this book was for the servants of GOD. A servant of GOD being a diciple of Christ Jesus who has been select called and chosen by GOD to do His will. With that said and done, as in understood we moved on.THE LETTERS TO THE CHURCH OF CHRIST JESUSThese are just that, letters to the Church of Christ Jesus, they point out all the sins of it's members. Not just through the ages but to this present day as well. To receive these special gifts which each offer, one should overcome any and all sin and especially these as noted. A,as in singliar, special overcomer who accomplishes this will receive all these awards. Sinless perfect, coming to the fullness in Christ Jesus is what this is called. All these gifts will be given to the first diciple to accomplish this. Peter, Paul, John and the likes of Steven were all diciples of Christ Jesus, thus qualified to receive these awards, though they did not accomplish this task set before them. A most special diciple has though. DICIPLES OF CHRIST JESUSSelect, called and chosen by GOD to do His will in Christ Jesus. Just as Christ Jesus mentioned in the gospels. There have been 144,000 since the time of Christ Jesus to this present day. All these special callings to serve GOD in Christ have been filled. These are those cited in the opening of chapter 14. They are first mentioned in chapter 5. The special overcomer, Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, chapter 5, verse 5 than the rest spoken of by the 24 elders as those purchased from every nation, tribe and tongue. They are seen by John as the voices of many angels, thousands upon thousands, as they soundoff in verse 12. Who are the 24 elders? I was left with the impression of Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and his twelve sons, Moses, Elijah, Daniel, Job, Samual and David. That is those most favored by GOD besides His son, Christ Jesus. The twelve aposels are part of the 144,000 sealed unto GOD in Christ Jesus. The remaining up to chapter 6 is easy to understand as it is given. Chapter 6 starts with this special overcomer, the Lion of the tribe of Judah being sent out from heaven on the first white horse. He arrived in a special way though, as in chapter 12, he is noted as being snatched off the earth to the throne of GOD. This was accomplished by the hand of GOD reaching down to earth to bring him up to heaven. Just after this is mentioned in chapter twelve, there is a war in heaven, Michael and his angels against Satan and all those that are his. Satan is cast out to the earth, thus the first white horse ride is in pursuit of these with those that follow his lead. Easy to understand that this war in heaven is now carried out upon this earth as the tribulation begins. Chapter 6 mentions these 144,000 diciples of Christ Jesus, though there are just a few left upon this earth. All have been raptured to heaven and GOD by death. Durning these days of tribulation, the last remaining alive will be slain as well, thus fully completing this group by death. One must die to enter this special group of diciples, as all going before them have done as well. Their faith proven by not resisting the sting of death, just like Christ Jesus whom they follow. These are the souls under the altar who cry out for their blood to be avenged upon the earth. Once again as the tribulation begins as the later part of chapter 6 explains.Chapter 7 is the sealing of those purebread Jews to GOD for devine protection from GOD to insure their survival as they do not have the power of the Holy Spirit by way of Christ Jesus. Thus the sealing. The tribe of Dan is not mentioned for the simple fact that by a special blessing from GOD through Jacob upon his death bed, Dan received this blessing and insurance of devine protection. Thus not needing to be sealed as the word of GOD is seal enough. The great multitude are those that are raptured to heaven upon their death in Christ Jesus durning this time of tribulation. This is where they will remain till the very end of days and the throne judgments. At the throne judgments, they will receive their rewards, as they are already saved by the blood of the Lamb, Christ Jesus, thus the second death has no hold on them. From the throne judgments, they will than be raptured in their new immortal bodies to the new heaven, earth and Jerusalem. This is the only live rapture of anyone left standing on the earth at that time in Christ Jesus. It is appointed for man, once to die, than judgment except for those alive in Christ Jesus at the very end of days upon this old sin sick planet, thus transferring into the new. Though in the new immortal flesh as well to be with our LORD and GOD forever. Perfect, whole and complete.Chapter 7 gives more details about the judgments upon the earth as the tribulation begins. There is a massive volcanic eruption that sends all this debris into to the air that rains down upon the earth. This large volcano sinks into the sea following an astraroid strike. At the very beginning about two billion perish. All this smoke and ash clouds the heavens reducing both day and night vision.Chapter 9 says it like it is. Something most unexplainable till it happens. I did not press for details for I personally felt it will be bad enough as it happens.Chapter 10 reveals the messenger given personal and collective judgments of GOD to all of the earth. Due to the grace of GOD, not known till it happens, leaving the option for any and all to repent and be spared.Chapter 11 is all about the tribulation at the very end of the millennial reign of Christ. This is when Satan is let loose for a season. The 70th week of Daniel has been split in two. The first 1260 days of tribulation are at the end of our present church age. The second half of Daniel's 70th week is at the end of the millennium reign. This time of Tribulation lasts 1290 days. Daniel mentions the 45 days of the throne judgments. Those who remain beyond the 1335 days are blessed to enter the new heaveen, earth and Jerusalem to be forever with our LORD and GOD. These two seperate times of tribulation are easy to seperate and see for which time of tribulation they belong to as prophecies of both are found throughout the old and new testaments. The fist has Satan being cast to the earth. The second has Satan coming up from the Abyss as he does here in this chapter 11. It does mention 1260 days and does also mention 42 months as well. This tribulation has 1290 days to it. So these passages fit within this time frame, leaving 30 more days for Satan to be judged. The temple is also a key indicator for as to which time of tribulation the LORD is making reference to. Any temple built by man does not qualify as being sacred. Only the temple built by the will of GOD and thus honored by GOD is sacred. An unholy temple can not be defiled, thus it must be GOD's sacred temple and not just any temple of man alone. All of chapter 11 is insight into the millennial end time tribulation period. Chapter 12 a clear picture of Satan trying to destroy the male child that is born and destined by GOD to destroy him. There is no free ride for the diciples of Christ Jesus. This diciple has already died for the cause of Christ Jesus He has simply been raised from the dead. That is why he is now snatched up to GOD in heaven to be given the authority, power and strength of GOD to pursue Satan and all those that are his. Though in this time of tribulation, Satan is only captured and bound by the will of GOD so to be released and the very end of the millennium reign. Once again to test all upon the earth to see just who they will serve, GOD or Satan. The technique Satan tried to destroy this male child was abortion. I am sure all have heard of aborted babies who lived. The male child is one of these.The woman is the Church of Christ Jesus. None come to Christ unless called by the Father. All who answer this call are given the two wings mentioned. That being Christ Jesus and GOD's Holy Spirit to guide them through this wilderness of tribulation safly. The rest of those children are those who have knowledge of Christ Jusus but as yet have not answered the call to be saved. The loud voice that is heard is the voice of the 144,000 sealed unto GOD in Christ Jesus. What is heard fits their identity once again.Chapter 13 This is when Satan empowers, thus reveals just who the beast and false prophet are. The beast has just been slain by the male child, thus is raise from the dead, having the mortal wound to the head healed. He is actually not really alive. Thus the false prophet takes care of all the talk and action for the beast. The beast merely appears to be alive, though not fully functional. The image made to talk is another example of this black magic. We now see the 42 months of the beast and false prophets reign of terror. This ends as the Christ returns, and they are thrown into the lake of fire, giving you the full length of this time of tribulation.Chapter 14 mentions the 144,000 didiples of Christ Jesus, this is a flashback to the message the angel with the scroll gives. The announcement of Babylon falling at the very beginning of the tribulation. There is more than one Babylon that must fall, this is the first to fall, the USA, as she sits on the maga volcano, Yellowstone. The curse of worshipping the beast and image or receiving the mark once again. All plain and simple. Verse 13 of this chapter tells you like it is, you will be raptured by death, no magic all fly away, the verses that follow showes yoy that as well as both the just and unjust are harvested with a sickle. Chapter 15 reveals the souls and spirits of those who perished in Christ Jesus at rest with GOD in heaven. The bowl judgments are for the ungodly. Those who remain in Christ Jesus will not suffer these judgments as well as those sealed unto GOD. They are all most easy to understand, no special spiritual magic needed to understand them.Chapter 17 is about Babylon once again. You now know who this second one is, false religion and all the ways religion is used to control and destroy the masses. She is hated by the beast for receiving worship he feels worthy of alone. Having no further use for her, she is destroyed.Chapter 18 explanes the exploitation of the masses by false religion. Even going to war for GOD and country.Chapter 19 is the wedding supper of the Lamb by all those who perished in Christ Jesus and the return of Christ to the earth to end this period of tribulation.Chapter 20 mentions briefly the second time of tribulation as Satan is let loose from the Abyss. There are many prophecies in the old testament about this particular time of testing so not much is given here. This is where all prophecies that note a temple, peace tready and Satan coming up from the Abyss belong. Most think this is a rather uneventful time, though many prophecies about this time prove otherwise.Very much a straight read to the end as most scolars note. At the end of this time of tribulation, 1290 days of Daniel, is where the throne judgments are carried out an all who remain till the 1335 day are blessed to enter the new of everything by rapture and the putting on of immortal flesh to do so forever. Paul explains this in 1 Corinthians as he himself is about to die, to give comfort to all those he will be leaving behind. This is once again at the very end of days that Daniel spoke of. Which was all that Paul knew at that time as Revelation was not written yet. Just why is Paul always cited as commenting on a book that has not even been written yet? Paul is commenting on the ressurection of the book of Daniel, at the end of days, not some black magic tribulation rapture that just doesn't exist.The first resurrection should be noted as being for those that are of the 144,000 sealed unto GOD and Christ Jesus. For they alone will live and reign in Christ Jesus upon this earth forever, that is till the end of days. It is not for one and all who die in Christ Jesus, they will take part in the second or final resurrection. It just doesn't make any sense to forfeit heaven where they are at their rest, to return to this earth where sin and death are still present till the end of days. Heaven, if anyone had a choice, would be taken as top honors. The 144,000 sealed unto GOD in Christ Jesus are chosen for just that assignment, to follow the Lamb wherever He goes, even to reign forever.Please note in Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 just how easy prophecy can be put in it's proper place. Chapter 38 expounds upon the millennium end time tribulation and chapter 39 the tribulation at the end of the church age.With preconcieved notions about just who is mentioned where, many important prophecies about all who are present are overlooked. That is not being seen as properly belonging to this book though they give great insight into just who is who.My children perish for lack of knowledge. Fixed in there ways, two billion perish right at the start. How many so called Christians are among these? I personally don't plan to be amoung that number, for my fixed and unyieding ways, which in all liklyhood, was learned from that great harlot church, Mystery Babylon. For she is known for the shedding of the blood of saints. Are you one of them?
 

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You know, I am probably going to come off as being quite rude for saying this, but so be it. My love for the Lord and His Word won't allow me to be silent here.This "brief walk though" is nothing more than that; it's a poor summary of an complex book that God wants you (as in everyone) to read an understand. Claiming that the Holy Spirit has indeed led you to this is suspect immediately because why exactly would God need to rewrite what He already gave us? If you take it upon yourself to summarize the book of Revelation, so be it, but don't claim it in direct contradiction to the Word itself:
Revelation 22:18-19For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
Summarizing, by it's very nature, takes away. The fruit you are bearing is not adding up right now. The fact of the matter is to read the Word of God and to know it. Not read the summations of any man who may claim this or that.
Revelation 1:3Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand.
THE words of the prophecy, the revelation. Not the paraphrased, watered down, and misconstrued version of it.
 

BenTobijah

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I agree with swampfox, your “summary” of Chapter 6 couldn’t be farther from the truth. The first rider is Satan himself not Christ. I didn’t even need to read any farther than that.Added: JL, You have several Revelation related topics here, this one, “THE 1290 & 1335 DAYS OF DANIEL” and “SEVEN YEARS OF TRIBULATION/JUDGMENT.” I don’t know where you are getting your information but it’s not a very good source. You are being mislead.