Randy Kluth
Well-Known Member
Randy, I support the State and the people to live their and the reason they made the State to save the Jews from such as what happened to the 6 million and on other points as well. on such issues everyone is fine with. but ? to claim such is Israel is blasphemy in fact ! it would be good if it was Israel, in fact I would not mind to do live is such a place as OT real Israel without the ones who killed all of Gods people ? That's explained in the Vineyard story ? and many other Biblical points if you want me to point them out for you. so in fact we can see a Mob working to undermine True Israel, this is expressed all through the Bible. The ones who crept in unawares ! the Golden Calf ! the Point that Stephen made to them all, that they were lead astray and then they killed him ? what does Jesus say of them ? who are they ? well them lot are not worthy of God ! because Jesus said who their Father was and that they were murders from the beginning ? get it ?? I pray for you.
People who are not worthy of Israel are not of Gods people.
All them Jews who were being mislead were not worthy of God, only Jesus disciples were worthy of the Name Israel because they are worthy of God.
Now if one understands the works of such people as they who worked against God, who killed all of Gods prophets and every other story that has the same ends ?
So now do you see what we are up against in all such ? now as to the 6 million, this was the same people that Jesus warned us about. It was they who created the whole thing, because they are as Jesus pointed out.
Such people have the ends to undermine all people regardless but for real Christians who are truly born again. for such as we know their workings.
I don't think you see how I view Israel. I view Israel as a nation that comes and goes, that does well at times and at other times does not do well. There are cycles. Israel may start strong, and then slowly faith is eroded, and leaven leavens the whole lump.
So the nation is not always bad. But Jesus characterized Israel as rotten at a time when the nation was in that sad condition. So I don't see Israel as eternally characterized as bad, and as a failure. Rather, they were a failure at a certain time in history, giving other nations the opportunity to try the same thing.