Do I sin, in stating I shall not justify willful breaking of the commandments of God? It is true, how can any of us justify breaking the commandments of God, willfully? I make no attempts at justifying the breaking of the Commandments of God.Thegoodground said:So "you" say.
God's voice is only heard on Sabbath days? Did God speak on the Sabbath? Did he Judge on the Sabbath?
The shophar was heard at Sinai (Exo. 19:16), on the Day of Atonement (Lev.23:24), at the beginning of the year of jubilee (Lev. 25:9), to announce the new moon (Psa. 81:3). It gave warning of judgment and war (Jos. 6:5; Jud. 3:27; 6:34; 7:16-18). It was used when issuing commands and directions (ISam. 13:3; 2Sam. 2:28); for proclaiming the accession of a king (1 Kgs. 1:34), or to warn of approaching danger (Jer. 4:5; Eze. 33:3; Joel 2:1).
It was thus the Voice of Authority.
That voice you say is only heard on the Sabbath?
Where?
You cannot keep a commandment as Law - you are a sinner!
I will say it again - you are a sinner and Law keeping cannot save you.
Lets say it again just in case you failed to listen the tenth time.
You are a sinner you cannot uphold God's commandments by Law as you will fail in one point and therefore are guilty of the whole law.
Your entire language is wrong; you speak as a natural unbelieving Jew.
You cannot jump between Law and Faith - Sorry once more!
Where does it say the Law of Liberty is the 10 Commandments?
By those same commandments law breakers were stone to death. Are you saying this Law is what saves?
O, so accidental incidents are ok are they? like 1 Ch 13:9-10
This stinks of self justification.
You are one lost soul.
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
(Heb 10:26)
Where is the breaking of the Mosiac Law here?
Where does it say we keep a Law?
Correct.
And Rae is a stern warning to all would be Christians who think they understand God and His purpose but have taken to themselves lies.
Lies cannot save.
God does not only speak on the Sabbath Day, but God is found speaking on the Sabbath Day to John. I have not said that it is only heard on the Sabbath Day, but that it was heard on the Sabbath Day. What I was pointing out, was that the trumpet and voice is associated with God's voice. John heard God's voice on the Sabbath Day.
Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Keeping the law is not to obtain salvation. You keep the law, because you are a servant of righteousness. Before you were a servant of sin, the power of Christ changes the Christian's life. What you did before, you no longer do. There is a marked change, and yes, you are able to keep the Commandments of God.
You, as a Christian, become a servant of righteousness instead of a servant of sin. Sin is to break the Law of God.
Romans 6:16-18 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Accidents happen, yes. What happens when we do sin?
1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
What is it, that makes us in danger of losing our salvation? Is it accidents? Or, willful sin?
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
The Law is the commandments of God - And keeping the Commandments of God, is the Law of God.
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
The 7th Day Sabbath (and not the others) was classed with the moral law. This was placed within the Decalogue to be kept forever.
Psalm 89:34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Psalm 19:7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
John 14:5 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
The Commandments are the Law of God.
Sabbath indeed is Friday Sundown to Saturday Sundown. However, what this speaks of is not the tithe. It was money given to sustain the poor Jews in Jerusalem.afaithfulone4u said:If we do it correctly as the disciples did, we can kill two birds with one Stone(Pardone the pun). Saturday is the seventh day and the seventh day is God's ordained day of rest according to scripture since the beginning of our earth's age was re-created after the flood of the first earth.
However the Jewish's seventh day ends Saturday at sundown... but on the Gentile calendar day it is still the seventh day until midnight on Saturday...yet is the dawn of a new day being the FIRST DAY of the week according to the Jews. So if we did as the original followers of Christ did, we could meet at Saturday sundown and be fulfilling both days in one shot.
Acts 20:7 And UPON(sundown) the first DAY(not meaning sunlight) OF THE WEEK, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
KJV
1 Cor 16:1 Now concerning the collection{plate offering} for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
2 UPON(Sundown) the first Day{Not meaning sunlight} OF THE WEEK let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him{tithes of our income}, that there be no gatherings when I come.
3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.
KJV
As we can see, the beginning of the (first) day is sundown Saturday and that is when the tithe aka collection plate is to be passed for the poor saints in Jerusalem not for padded pew seats etc.... as most churches use the tithe money for. Tithes are a 1/10th portion of what God has given to us rather it be produce and cattle as in the old testament or monetary since we work for a living now days and do not farm. All the earth belongs to Him and we are borrowing it to use for income.
Blessings