Salvation in 7

[amigo de christo]

I agree and am finding them "lax" in the faith also, that deem such and such translation is flawed.
Man wrote the bible but it is God breathed, Spirit inspired.
If we go to anything looking for the wrong instead of the rightness, you can be assured IT WILL BE FOUND AND STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB !

What would one call another who is like this?

BINGO . you said it right on there sister .
That is exactly the same thing i notice . Those who continually holler the KJV has errors
here read the new versions . THEY ARE ALSO BIG TIME LAX in the faith .
THEY are big on twisting and omitting things JESUS SAID TOO . I have noticed that big time .
You hit the nail right in my dear sister . The same with those who always holler non stop GOD is LOVE and JUDGE NOT
anytime one corrects . THOSE WHO FOLLOW This ONE mindset seem to
have an appearance of love , but watch out when TRUTH IS BROUGHT . cause when TRUTH SHOWS
up , I DONT SEE NOR HEAR ANY LOVE FROM THEM . just saying .
This other love i speak of sure seems to be OVERLY tolerant , Always extra kind to those who live in sin and error
always accepting of many paths , heck even honors certain sins . BIGGEST HEART for all of that .
BUT WOE to those who actually SPEAK TRUTH , BRING TRUTH , dare to correct . SUDDENLY
YOU WONT BE SEEING SMILES AND HUGS AND ACCEPTANCE FROM THEM .
I have never seen a generation more in love with what it THINKS IS LOVE
and yet MORE HATEFUL TO THE TRUE GOD , the TRUE CHRIST and HIS LOVE . satan aint been sleeping , HE has been DECIEVING

 

[L.A.M.B.]

1 Peter 5:8 KJV

8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:​

 

[amigo de christo]

You all want to truly know WHO LOVES GOD and who just is in LOVE with what they think is GOD and his love .
TRY BRINGING ALL THE BIBLICAL SCRIPTURES UNTO THEM .
But back away fast cause their TEETH WILL APPEAR .
But i have a question . HOW can we TRULY LOVE GOD IF WE HATE AND DESPISE THE TRUTH HE INSPIRED IN THE BIBLE .
PONDER ON THAT FOR A BIT FOLKS .
This generation is so in love with what IT THINKS IS GOD , IT THINKS IS LOVE
and yet HATES GOD more than ever .
FOR PROOF , BRING IN ALL BIBLICAL REMINDERS , AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY AND WHAT THEY DO .

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Sorry @David in NJ
I was gonna refrain so as to not derail your thread and it's purpose.

 

[amigo de christo]

Sorry @David in NJ
I was gonna refrain so as to not derail your thread and it's purpose.

Sister , always know this . If i ever make a thread
and you come on to it , JUST SPEAK ALL THE TRUTH YOU WANT TOO . IT dont even have to stick to the subject .
By grace i have always been like that . CAUSE the TRUTH IS , I JUST LOVE SEEING FOLKS SPEAK THE TRUTH .
SO raise those hands and let the LORD be praised

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Sister , always know this . If i ever make a thread
and you come on to it , JUST SPEAK ALL THE TRUTH YOU WANT TOO . IT dont even have to stick to the subject .
By grace i have always been like that . CAUSE the TRUTH IS , I JUST LOVE SEEING FOLKS SPEAK THE TRUTH .
SO raise those hands and let the LORD be praised

I love you too, brother.
Have you ever started a thread of your own, I can't recall ?

 

[amigo de christo]

1 Peter 5:8 KJV​

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8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:​

Its late in the hour now my dear sister .
I just wanted to let you know something .
They were doing church surveys . And they cant figure out
why on earth the people dont even know the true gospel or fundamental core values .
BUT I KNOW WHY .
THEY ALL BOUGHT INTO THIS LETS NOT teach anything that might divide or offend mindset .
IT became houses of lets just get along and find common ground .
ITS NOT GETTING TAUGHT ANYMORE IS WHY THEY DONT KNOW .
CAUSE the truth is TEACHING FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS ARE GONNA offend some .
SO OUT WITH THAT . IT WORKED SISTER .
Now we have the most lovey in love with what they THINK IS GOD , THINK IS CHRISTANITY , THINK IS TRUTH
and yet THEY DONT KNOW THE TRUTH . satan knew what he was doing .
And worse they keep accepting more and more sin under the banner of tolerance and love .
Something tragic has occured , my people know not what christanity has lost let alone that they are STILL LOST .

 

[amigo de christo]

I love you too, brother.
Have you ever started a thread of your own, I can't recall ?

Not many . but i have did a couple .

 

[amigo de christo]

I love you too, brother.
Have you ever started a thread of your own, I can't recall ?

I used to do quite a few threads on another big site .
But it was big time unity focused .
They didnt shut down my threads cause they were not true but rather cause folks would come
on and battle it out with each other .
See i have noticed something on sites . Thankfully it has not been so much on this one .
But i have noticed the topic dont seem to matter
Most can write what they want .
BUT IF FOLKS cant unite or it causes divisions its OUT with it .
And it dont matter IF IT IS TRUE or not true . THE MAIN CONCERN IS NOT FOR THE TRUTH ANYMORE
rather its LETS JUST GET ALONG . Did you know i was put in a digital ghetto
once . i called it the digital ghetto cause it was an area prepared for those they deemed as trouble makers
like cyber prison .
Now it had just been set up . There were some others in it
cause they were just out right hateful to folks .
EVEN THEY KNEW I SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE .
Cause though i am fast to speak truth and correct i was not name calling and mean .
SO why was i sent there . Cause i cause divisions . YEAH .
THEY Dont want anything that causes divisions , many had rather unify under a lie
than speak truth that divides . Its really sad sister .
I ended up leaving that site .
But not before this THOUGHT POPPED IN MY HEAD .
SOON enough it wont just be digital ghettos .....................but real life ones . TRUTH is becoming
more and more the enemy to the utopain views of society and its every unifying religoins .

 

[Brakelite]

It has been impressed upon me to do this thing.

In a discussion on the validity of the bile, what we call the word of God, there is error found in all. I concur yet hold firmly it is the spirit of the letter and the Spirit of God that reveals the Father to his children.
John 14. 6] Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7] If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him

We do not have a true exact copy of any scripture, but most are based on oral or the few written accounts that remain.
Much has been changed from ancient to modern language and culture to culture.The Apostles preached Jesus !

I'm impressed to study only the four gospels for a time and only them.( Yes many say they are in error as well ) In this study of only the four, I will be seeking to establish the core doctrines of God/ Christ thru this study.
I will be looking for......
1. God
2. Creation
3. Salvation
4. Belief
5. Love
And any commandments we are to adhere to today as believers and followers of God, the Christ.

While Paul was given to preach to the Gentiles, Peter, James and John actually handled of the Word; ate, slept, walked and talked with HIM !

I want to establish, to if only myself, that if we have only Jesus' words can we live in the core doctrines of God.

That is a most commendable goal. Be very interested in your progress and the conclusions and thoughts you have during your studies. Perhaps a dedicated thread, although I can already envision the numerous redirects and excursions into unrelated avenues of inquiry.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

That is a most commendable goal. Be very interested in your progress and the concord and thoughts you have during your studies. Perhaps a dedicated thread, although I can already envision the numerous redirects and excursions into unrelated avenues of inquiry.

Thank you.
I too envision such as yourself if I were to have such a thread. I am keeping a journal of my study.
Be blest among the blessed !

 

[Brakelite]

All the Commandments.

If all God's commandments can be described as the law of sin and death, then how can we reconcile that idea with scripture that declare the commandments as God's righteousness? Paul's declaration that the commandments are holy, just, and good?
KJV Romans 7:7
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

David. In saying the law, or God's commandments, are a law of sin and death, does that not contradict the above?

We are told that the law acts as a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Is that a law of sin and death?
KJV Galatians 3:24
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

We are also told that...
KJV Romans 2:13
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Is that law, when obeyed, a law of sin and death to those doers of the law?

KJV Psalms 119:97, 143, 151, 172, 174
97 O how love I thy law of sin and death! it is my meditation all the day.
143 Trouble and anguish have taken hold on me: yet thy commandments of sin and death are my delights.
151 Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments of sin and death are truth.
172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments of sin and death are righteousness.
174 I have longed for thy salvation, O LORD; and thy law of sin and death is my delight.

I am not mocking you or God, but thinking through what you have said.

 

[Brakelite]

We cannot fulfill the righteous requirement of the Law.

Why not? Is God without power to recreate us in His image?

KJV Romans 8:3-4

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Whenever man accomplishes anything, whether in spiritual or in temporal lines, he should bear in mind that he does it through co-operation with his Maker. There is great necessity for us to realize our dependence on God, which is why Paul was able to confidently declare

KJV Philippians 4:13

13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

If we say we cannot obey God, are we saying God is unreasonable in His demands of holiness and righteousness? Is He commanding that which He knows is impossible for us to obey?

 

[Brakelite]

What is the difference between "let there be light", and "thou shall not commit adultery"?

In every command and in every promise of the word of God is the power, the very life of God, by which the command may be fulfilled and the promise realized. He who by faith receives the word is receiving the very life and character of God.

KJV Isaiah 55:11
11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Such are the commandments of God. They are promises to those that believe. This is righteousness that comes by faith. When we receive Christ... When we are filled with the spirit of the living God... We are filled also with a hunger and a thirst for righteousness, a desire, a yearning, a longing to live according to God's will. To please Him in all things. Not to make excuses for those things we don't like to do, but to plead for a change of heart, that we may always love the things God loves, and hate the things God hates.
When we ask in faith for the holy Spirit, does He give us a fish? When we are tempted, is it beyond that which we are able to overcome?

KJV Romans 5:17-21
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

So. Are the Ten Commandments... The law of God... The law of sin and death? Is it that law from which the blood of Jesus freed us? We are free from any and all obligation to obey God's commandments because we cannot do so? That my friend is a defeatist faithless theology and I cannot see how anyone who has a heart for missions and saving souls can possibly believe that.
"Jesus saves", he says. "He saves you from eternal death. You can go to heaven. But He does not have the power to free you from your addictions and sin". "Sorry, but you will be bound to your drugs and pornography and tobacco and alcohol for the rest of your life".

 

[David in NJ]

Why not? Is God without power to recreate us in His image?

KJV Romans 8:3-4

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Whenever man accomplishes anything, whether in spiritual or in temporal lines, he should bear in mind that he does it through co-operation with his Maker. There is great necessity for us to realize our dependence on God, which is why Paul was able to confidently declare

KJV Philippians 4:13

13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

If we say we cannot obey God, are we saying God is unreasonable in His demands of holiness and righteousness? Is He commanding that which He knows is impossible for us to obey?

Woke up to pain and weakness today.

Hopefully i can regain strength and respond to you and i am not ignoring you neither am i without a response from the Word.

Peace and Thank You

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Woke up to pain and weakness today.

Hopefully i can regain strength and respond to you and i am not ignoring you neither am i without a response from the Word.

Peace and Thank You

Malachi 4:2 KJV
But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

May his healing and strength be your man today.

 

[GTW27]

Woke up to pain and weakness today.

Hopefully i can regain strength and respond to you and i am not ignoring you neither am i without a response from the Word.

Peace and Thank You

Many are the afflictions of the righteous; but The Lord delivers him out of them all.

 

[David in NJ]

What is the difference between "let there be light", and "thou shall not commit adultery"?

In every command and in every promise of the word of God is the power, the very life of God, by which the command may be fulfilled and the promise realized. He who by faith receives the word is receiving the very life and character of God.

KJV Isaiah 55:11
11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Such are the commandments of God. They are promises to those that believe. This is righteousness that comes by faith. When we receive Christ... When we are filled with the spirit of the living God... We are filled also with a hunger and a thirst for righteousness, a desire, a yearning, a longing to live according to God's will. To please Him in all things. Not to make excuses for those things we don't like to do, but to plead for a change of heart, that we may always love the things God loves, and hate the things God hates.
When we ask in faith for the holy Spirit, does He give us a fish? When we are tempted, is it beyond that which we are able to overcome?

KJV Romans 5:17-21
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

So. Are the Ten Commandments... The law of God... The law of sin and death? Is it that law from which the blood of Jesus freed us? We are free from any and all obligation to obey God's commandments because we cannot do so? That my friend is a defeatist faithless theology and I cannot see how anyone who has a heart for missions and saving souls can possibly believe that.
"Jesus saves", he says. "He saves you from eternal death. You can go to heaven. But He does not have the power to free you from your addictions and sin". "Sorry, but you will be bound to your drugs and pornography and tobacco and alcohol for the rest of your life".

i am "out of commission" for today.

Nauceous, weak, dizzy........................BLAH

 

[Brakelite]

Woke up to pain and weakness today.

Hopefully i can regain strength and respond to you and i am not ignoring you neither am i without a response from the Word.

Peace and Thank You

Get better brother.

 

[David in NJ]

Get better brother.

Thank You
Braklite and @BarneyFife = i only see you guys as my Brothers in Christ, we are under the Blood together