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I don't put my trust in politicians no matter who they are.

I actually agree, but my FIRST HESITATION would be a COP. They're trained to be dishonest, and cover for each other's dishonesty and criminal behavior. My SECOND HESITATION would be a Pastor. I'd guess some 80% are in it for the job (money) and will LIE, CHEAT, and STEAL to keep their income flowing. My THIRD HESITATION would be Government in general.

And at the BOTTOM OF THE LIST, -- the one with the MOST CONFIDENCE --, is Trump.
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But then again, what is a "Christian" forum without the occasional "christian" (small "c")?!?


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yes and then again . what would a forum be with out a KNOW IT ALL . i would say you was a accuser of the brethren. but not so sure you could be called a brother . you remind me of the big black clouds that appears in the summer. has lots of rumble spits out a few drops .i see a lot of big talk out of you but no rain. just hot air
 
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no the Church is not hopeless . we can not force kids or adults to get saved. we only preach the word one pants one waters God gives the increase. are there churches out the going through the motions ? i am sure ! man is the problem not God he has given us a instruction manual and a instructor to follow . it has been proven to never fail
Problem is that the Churches have failed, they are talking rubbish mainly peddling religious works and are not about Jesus Christ at all, so the majority of children end up lost and rejecting everything about such, the so called priest have failed because they are not preaching Jesus Christ, they are happily peddling a so called social gospel or Socialism nowadays and they don't want to offend anyone, that's now the golden rule ! did Jesus offend anyone ? he sure did and he got killed for such in fact, maybe Jesus should of played along with the political correct crowd of the days ? but such could not be a Son of God then could he.

Anyone who supports Political Correctness is of Satan, fact is that correct and Political do not gel that's an oxymoron as there is no such thing as correct in such a topic as "political" that's a Socialist concept only and within such a concept all are under the Government as Slaves or regarded as just the governments cattle or just a number in fact. so if you are not under Political Correctness then you are a enemy of the State, such a State demands how you think and what you do. Jesus was not about that and Holy Moses was not about that because he said, let my people go, for they are the people of God !
God does not want people to becomes slaves to the Sin of Man because the wagers of such is death.
 

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Problem is that the Churches have failed, they are talking rubbish mainly peddling religious works and are not about Jesus Christ at all, so the majority of children end up lost and rejecting everything about such, the so called priest have failed because they are not preaching Jesus Christ, they are happily peddling a so called social gospel or Socialism nowadays and they don't want to offend anyone, that's now the golden rule ! did Jesus offend anyone ? he sure did and he got killed for such in fact, maybe Jesus should of played along with the political correct crowd of the days ? but such could not be a Son of God then could he.
there are those out there granted i preached 90 days at a church. they told me they was looking for someone more laid back . lol but see that is not the church the Body of Christ . that is doctrines of man promoted by man . the true Church body of christ is built upon the Rock though art the Christ . Christ said the gates of hell will not prevail .he never said we would have it easy . he foretold us two truths our peace is in him. our tribulation is in this world. i try to practice this.. a older preacher man once said we have just enough oil to take care of us. i cant speak fro you,but taking care of me is a full time job. sometime i end back up on the potters wheel to be fashioned by the masters loving hand . amen
 
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You slander citizens who would risk their lives to protect not only themselves and their families, but ALSO THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS, and then divert the conversation.

We used to regularly patronize a family owned and operated restaurant, and then they placed a sign in the Foyer prohibiting Concealed Carry. I explained to both the waitress and finally the cash register staff that we could no longer patronize their establishment, because although I don't Conceal Carry, -- I depend on others to Conceal Carry to prevent some hoodlum from threatening the patrons with impunity. -- They left the sign up, we never dined there again, and the restaurant now stands empty and closed.


If you have ANY INTEGRITY, don't run from your statement. If you misspoke then please correct/clarity your position. Otherwise, we're done.
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You slander citizens who would risk their lives to protect not only themselves and their families, but ALSO THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS, and then divert the conversation.

We used to regularly patronize a family owned and operated restaurant, and then they placed a sign in the Foyer prohibiting Concealed Carry. I explained to both the waitress and finally the cash register staff that we could no longer patronize their establishment, because although I don't Conceal Carry, -- I depend on others to Conceal Carry to prevent some hoodlum from threatening the patrons with impunity. -- They left the sign up, we never dined there again, and the restaurant now stands empty and closed.


If you have ANY INTEGRITY, don't run from your statement. If you misspoke then please correct/clarity your position. Otherwise, we're done.
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Be careful not to confuse general criminal activity aimed against you or your family which you are most entitled, indeed required to do whatever necessary to defend... Even with the use of arms. I have no objection to that, and would, if necessary do so myself if I had such a weapon. I don't, but would not hesitate to use something else to effect a sound defense.
However, I think the topic of the OP could be understood in another context. While the last days will be marked by greatly increasing lawlessness, that lawlessness becomes a spiritual issue between two sides. One side sporting the mark it the beast, the other the seal of God. Those bearing the seal.. Having their Father's name written in their forehead... Become specifically targeted. This is then persecution. I see no record in the scriptures nor in early church history where the church defended itself with weapons against it's persecutors. Do you have some evidence to the contrary?
 
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... I see no record in the scriptures nor in early church history where the church defended itself with weapons against it's persecutors. Do you have some evidence to the contrary?

As posted NUMEROUS TIMES:

Lke 22:35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one.

And before you object, because it hasn't happened "historically", -- we shouldn't have to wait until we NEED to protect ourselves before FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS!


Also, you might consider this additional context:

Esther 8:11 By these the king allowed the Jews who were in every city to gather and defend their lives, to destroy, to slay, and to annihilate any armed force of any people or province that might attack them, with their children and women, and to plunder their goods,



Or, Christians and their loved ones can fall victim to he that seeks to STEAL, KILL, and DESTROY.

And as we both agree, I intend to protect myself and my family, whatever the cost -- preferably at THEIR COST.
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When the pagans come breaking your door down and demand you worship 'allah-Baal-Mary-Darwin' or be beheaded what will you do?

Might just have to tell them Jesus is Lord, and hopefully they won't know what hit them and they would be running away in fear.

Of course it would be different if I was actually in that situation, and would take a lot of courage, no one knows except for those being persecuted. But some people do courageously stand up for Jesus in those situations.

You know God has protected people in that way before, maybe not exactly that way, but divine intervention can happen in those moments.
 

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Anyway guys can we please lay off on the personal attacks, we may have different views and we may have similar views, but it can be discussed in a much more respectable manner.

All I have done is listed the pros and cons imo, it's really up to each individual American Christian on whether they support Donald Trump or not.

And no ones Salvation depends on supporting or not supporting Donald Trump. Jesus is still Lord no matter who is the President or Prime Minister or King or Queen of whatever country.
 

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When the pagans come breaking your door down and demand you worship 'allah-Baal-Mary-Darwin' or be beheaded what will you do?
That is not what the final days will look like. Babylon the Great, the harlot, will not be preaching Baal or any other recognizable god. She is a counterfeit Christ. Antichrist is a part of her composition. A global entity of professing Christian churches in an external framework under the authority of the Vatican. The mark of the beast, the opposite to the seal of God, is something you will voluntarily accept because you will be deceived into believing it's the real deal. People may come banging your door down in the end, but by then if you're bright, you won't be home. And it won't be some rag tag mob... It'll be the army/secret service/Homeland security or whatever because you will have been outed as a terrorist and traitor for refusing the mark.... Maybe.
 
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We are working to answer the question "Should Christians Support Donald Trump" in the context of the following posts here on Christianity Board:

Post: What is a Seer?
Post: The Meek and The Bold

Given someone was asking in the context of the above two posts I may start with a testimony:

It was around January 2014, and I was starting to have ears to hear, and eyes to see. I made a list of music, mostly "Secular Music," where I found the lyrics profound, or the sounds were drawing me in some way. I felt my list was profound. I worked on an idea for a Christian Themed Radio Station. Not exactly Christian Music as in a genre or Worship Music, but Christian Themed Music. I worked on this idea, and pitched it to two people, but I decided God had given me something profound. In February 2014, I started a Twitter Page. I tweeted songs or Youtube Music videos, with a few words to draw people's attention and perspectives to something Biblical in a teaching way.

The first day on Twitter I tweeted fifteen or so. After that, God started giving me a song or a theme. I would work out that song or theme a day ahead, and then tweet them all really quickly to try and get attention.......and they should have been watched in order to get the full effect. Package deal. A week or two later, I became more confident. I had been doing this in The Spirit of God, and was receiving things from God. I had grown in Faith, and learn to tweet them as they came to me. Tweeting them as they came to me, I may have ended up with a cool piece of art, and a message from God that took me a few times reviewing with God to more get the full message and see everything. @manonfire63. There are two twitters. The link to the first one is on the bottom.

Working for God over Twitter, ended up tweeting celebrities, government entities, Universities, and other such people, as compelled to sitting in the presence of God. It was around May-June 2015 during the election, and Donald Trump came out against illegal immigration in a big way for the first time, that some people didn't like in a big way. God was showing me Ezekiel 23. In Ezekiel 16 and Ezekiel 23, it has been like some states or nations were like God's Wives. Why is The Song of Songs in the Bible? It has been an allegory for Israel as God's wife. In the New Testament, using the same allegory, The Church is a Bride for Christ. Was she more of a Harlot Ezekiel 23, or a Virgin Israel? Given a Harlot or Prostitute, that may be like a Great Prostitute poisoning the Nations with her wine? (Revelations 17) What may have been her wine? Secular Humanism? Luciferinism where people have believed they had the light out side of God? Obama was for Hope and Change? Hope for what? Change for what? Was that hope and change in God towards God's Kingdom or some sort of Egotistical Intellectual Atheistic Utopia where Christianity is marginalized and oppressed? In general, some people have been working towards an Atheistic Secular State, with no borders, that denies the Book of Daniel. (Daniel 12)

Prior to being called by God in 2014, I was more of a Ted Cruz guy. During the election, in retrospect, we did not like Glen Beck invoking God and endorsing him the way he did.

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Before Donald Trump was thought as a legitimate Presidential Candidate, I tweeted Donald Trump. Why? The first time he said something about immigration that got the internet fired up, I tweeted him Madden NFL 15 Commercial with something about Matthew 10:34. I was inspire by Saint Nick. http://badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=32109327065

Has Donald Trump, by standing his ground, seemed to have been doing his part towards Matthew 10:34-37? Yes. Has the Democratic Party been working on giving voting rights to non-citizens like they have been working on building an Atheistic Socialist State, with no borders, that denies The Book of Daniel? It may take some research and reflection, but someone looking at this topic honestly, and seeking God, may be able to see how various Democrats with their actions, choices, and voting records have seemed to have a goal or vision, and that goal was Luciferian. They have been working on building a Tower of Babel.

Here may be an easier way to break this down so I am not writing a book:
  • Free Market, Neo-Liberal Capitalism is Globalist.
  • Hillary Clinton was characterized as a Globalist.
  • Socialism has been Globalist.
  • Donald Trump ran as a Nationalist.
One of these things is not like the others.

What Donald Trump has done very well has been stick to his guns. The US Political Process is supposed to be slow and hard to change. Donald Trump has been up against a Media-Academic apparatus, similar to a Military Industrial Complex, that competely lost its mind, and has been ridiculous. Regardless of who the candidate was going to be on the Republican side, regardless of if it was Ted Cruz or Rand Paul who became president, they would be fighting through the same things Donald Trump has fought through, but in ways more tailored towards them. In 2015 Donald Trump looked like the right man to fight through this Media-Academic Apparatus, and he has been doing a great job. Donald Trump should keep being Donald Trump.

If someone was asking me if Christians should support Donald Trump.........in working to build the Kingdom of God, many of the people who have been working against the Kingdom have tended to hate Donald Trump. Who have tended to be engaged in a form of Spiritual Warfare against God and God's Kingdom. In what God has called me to do, Donald Trump has mostly left to succeed or fail on his own. God's likes Glory, and it may be Glorious if he succeeds. Working to build the Kingdom of God, I have found that using Donald Trump and people like Dr. Jordan Peterson, I may have been able to pick off some people who were doing the wrong things in a big way, and call some people into repentance through The Spirit of God. Demoralized people who have hated themselves, hated their country, hated their neighbor.

This was free written or some things free written copy and pasted. Some edits were made towards spelling grammar and understanding.

It depends on what your focus is. If you want something done about abortion, then Don is your man. If you want a wholesale slaughter of babies in the womb, choose a Democrat as president as that is what you will get with them.
 

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That is not what the final days will look like. Babylon the Great, the harlot, will not be preaching Baal or any other recognizable god. She is a counterfeit Christ. Antichrist is a part of her composition. A global entity of professing Christian churches in an external framework under the authority of the Vatican. The mark of the beast, the opposite to the seal of God, is something you will voluntarily accept because you will be deceived into believing it's the real deal. People may come banging your door down in the end, but by then if you're bright, you won't be home. And it won't be some rag tag mob... It'll be the army/secret service/Homeland security or whatever because you will have been outed as a terrorist and traitor for refusing the mark.... Maybe.
Political Correctness becomes there god ! that's a mans works trip ! and it's the direction of Socialist, Communist, Satanist, go talk to any hard line such person and start bagging Political Correctness and you will see that they idolise such madness. mans Political workings is there god and there correctness ? is just dribble or dogs breakfast a means to an end it's like people wallowing in a pig pen. shallow minded swine's that if one cast pearls too they will only turn on you because they are offended.
They are trying to build a ? to man, holy hell ! they reject Sin and create there own definition of sin, like they do with everything as such it's as a mirror reflection state not worthy of reality or the truth in fact but bastardised, Counterfeit !
 

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Political Correctness becomes there god ! that's a mans works trip ! and it's the direction of Socialist, Communist, Satanist, go talk to any hard line such person and start bagging Political Correctness and you will see that they idolise such madness. mans Political workings is there god and there correctness ? is just dribble or dogs breakfast a means to an end it's like people wallowing in a pig pen. shallow minded swine's that if one cast pearls too they will only turn on you because they are offended.
They are trying to build a ? to man, holy hell ! they reject Sin and create there own definition of sin, like they do with everything as such it's as a mirror reflection state not worthy of reality or the truth in fact but bastardised, Counterfeit !
I agree. But that is what they allow y you to recognize. What they do not want you to recognize is that the UN, the Vatican, the shadow governments all around the world, and many of the leaders in open government, and in numerous religions such as Islam and Buddhism and yes, even various Protestant/non Catholic (so called) are all in fact religiously united, and it is their religion, which ultimately is luciferian, that they are establishing to replace Christianity. They are working together using political correctness and socialism as a means to an end as you said. The end is fascism. And there are many clues and indicators throughout the US that for centuries the cult of fascism has had a leading hand in the development of the nation for a long time. Fascism is technically quite different from socialism, communism, and capitalism. Nazi Germany was fascist. Italy under Mussolini was fascist. The Vatican is essentially fascist. And the NWO now developing is fascist. And the United States, through fascism, will lead the world into the false Babylonian counterfeit Christianity now being peddled by the ecumenicists, headed by Rome. Come out of her My people.
 
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I actually agree, but my FIRST HESITATION would be a COP. They're trained to be dishonest, and cover for each other's dishonesty and criminal behavior. My SECOND HESITATION would be a Pastor. I'd guess some 80% are in it for the job (money) and will LIE, CHEAT, and STEAL to keep their income flowing. My THIRD HESITATION would be Government in general.

And at the BOTTOM OF THE LIST, -- the one with the MOST CONFIDENCE --, is Trump.
Bobby Jo
I don't put confidence in politicians either.
 

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We are working to answer the question "Should Christians Support Donald Trump" in the context of the following posts here on Christianity Board:

Post: What is a Seer?
Post: The Meek and The Bold

Given someone was asking in the context of the above two posts I may start with a testimony:

It was around January 2014, and I was starting to have ears to hear, and eyes to see. I made a list of music, mostly "Secular Music," where I found the lyrics profound, or the sounds were drawing me in some way. I felt my list was profound. I worked on an idea for a Christian Themed Radio Station. Not exactly Christian Music as in a genre or Worship Music, but Christian Themed Music. I worked on this idea, and pitched it to two people, but I decided God had given me something profound. In February 2014, I started a Twitter Page. I tweeted songs or Youtube Music videos, with a few words to draw people's attention and perspectives to something Biblical in a teaching way.

The first day on Twitter I tweeted fifteen or so. After that, God started giving me a song or a theme. I would work out that song or theme a day ahead, and then tweet them all really quickly to try and get attention.......and they should have been watched in order to get the full effect. Package deal. A week or two later, I became more confident. I had been doing this in The Spirit of God, and was receiving things from God. I had grown in Faith, and learn to tweet them as they came to me. Tweeting them as they came to me, I may have ended up with a cool piece of art, and a message from God that took me a few times reviewing with God to more get the full message and see everything. @manonfire63. There are two twitters. The link to the first one is on the bottom.

Working for God over Twitter, ended up tweeting celebrities, government entities, Universities, and other such people, as compelled to sitting in the presence of God. It was around May-June 2015 during the election, and Donald Trump came out against illegal immigration in a big way for the first time, that some people didn't like in a big way. God was showing me Ezekiel 23. In Ezekiel 16 and Ezekiel 23, it has been like some states or nations were like God's Wives. Why is The Song of Songs in the Bible? It has been an allegory for Israel as God's wife. In the New Testament, using the same allegory, The Church is a Bride for Christ. Was she more of a Harlot Ezekiel 23, or a Virgin Israel? Given a Harlot or Prostitute, that may be like a Great Prostitute poisoning the Nations with her wine? (Revelations 17) What may have been her wine? Secular Humanism? Luciferinism where people have believed they had the light out side of God? Obama was for Hope and Change? Hope for what? Change for what? Was that hope and change in God towards God's Kingdom or some sort of Egotistical Intellectual Atheistic Utopia where Christianity is marginalized and oppressed? In general, some people have been working towards an Atheistic Secular State, with no borders, that denies the Book of Daniel. (Daniel 12)

Prior to being called by God in 2014, I was more of a Ted Cruz guy. During the election, in retrospect, we did not like Glen Beck invoking God and endorsing him the way he did.

renderTimingPixel.png

Before Donald Trump was thought as a legitimate Presidential Candidate, I tweeted Donald Trump. Why? The first time he said something about immigration that got the internet fired up, I tweeted him Madden NFL 15 Commercial with something about Matthew 10:34. I was inspire by Saint Nick. http://badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=32109327065

Has Donald Trump, by standing his ground, seemed to have been doing his part towards Matthew 10:34-37? Yes. Has the Democratic Party been working on giving voting rights to non-citizens like they have been working on building an Atheistic Socialist State, with no borders, that denies The Book of Daniel? It may take some research and reflection, but someone looking at this topic honestly, and seeking God, may be able to see how various Democrats with their actions, choices, and voting records have seemed to have a goal or vision, and that goal was Luciferian. They have been working on building a Tower of Babel.

Here may be an easier way to break this down so I am not writing a book:
  • Free Market, Neo-Liberal Capitalism is Globalist.
  • Hillary Clinton was characterized as a Globalist.
  • Socialism has been Globalist.
  • Donald Trump ran as a Nationalist.
One of these things is not like the others.

What Donald Trump has done very well has been stick to his guns. The US Political Process is supposed to be slow and hard to change. Donald Trump has been up against a Media-Academic apparatus, similar to a Military Industrial Complex, that competely lost its mind, and has been ridiculous. Regardless of who the candidate was going to be on the Republican side, regardless of if it was Ted Cruz or Rand Paul who became president, they would be fighting through the same things Donald Trump has fought through, but in ways more tailored towards them. In 2015 Donald Trump looked like the right man to fight through this Media-Academic Apparatus, and he has been doing a great job. Donald Trump should keep being Donald Trump.

If someone was asking me if Christians should support Donald Trump.........in working to build the Kingdom of God, many of the people who have been working against the Kingdom have tended to hate Donald Trump. Who have tended to be engaged in a form of Spiritual Warfare against God and God's Kingdom. In what God has called me to do, Donald Trump has mostly left to succeed or fail on his own. God's likes Glory, and it may be Glorious if he succeeds. Working to build the Kingdom of God, I have found that using Donald Trump and people like Dr. Jordan Peterson, I may have been able to pick off some people who were doing the wrong things in a big way, and call some people into repentance through The Spirit of God. Demoralized people who have hated themselves, hated their country, hated their neighbor.

This was free written or some things free written copy and pasted. Some edits were made towards spelling grammar and understanding.
Yes. American Christians should support their president. It is an instruction in Scripture that we should fully support authorities because they are there to restrain evil and to ensure that we can live in peace and safety in our communities. Therefore failure to fully support Donald Trump as President of the United States is sin and any opposition to him needs to be repented of.

It doesn't matter whether we agree with him personally, or his policies, and we don't even have to like him, but he is President and while in office we are to respect him in that capacity, otherwise we will lose God's support, because He is the Person who put Donald Trump in that role, and non-support of him is to fail to support the God who set him in the role of President.
 
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You may be aware that the retired (or fired) editor of Christianity Today tried to tell the Christian world that Mr. Trump should be removed from office (as though that sham impeachment effort of the Democrats was actually valid). I believe he fell flat on his face because he departed from the truth.

The truth is that Christians must also be responsible citizens of their countries. And one of those responsibilities is to vote whenever there is an election. Which means assessing each candidate in terms of their desire to do what is right and what is righteous in public office. Mr. Trump made it clear that he intended to do what is right for the country. While he made many mistakes, he also accomplished a great deal for which he received no credit from the lying media.
God, according to Scripture, is the One who put Donald Trump into the role of President. Anyone calling for Trump to be removed from office is opposing God Himself. Every President is responsible to God for how he performs the role and must stand in judgment one day to give an account before God.

Anyone who opposes God, and does not repent of it, cannot be saved no matter how much he professes Christianity.
 

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I agree. But that is what they allow y you to recognize. What they do not want you to recognize is that the UN, the Vatican, the shadow governments all around the world, and many of the leaders in open government, and in numerous religions such as Islam and Buddhism and yes, even various Protestant/non Catholic (so called) are all in fact religiously united, and it is their religion, which ultimately is luciferian, that they are establishing to replace Christianity. They are working together using political correctness and socialism as a means to an end as you said. The end is fascism. And there are many clues and indicators throughout the US that for centuries the cult of fascism has had a leading hand in the development of the nation for a long time. Fascism is technically quite different from socialism, communism, and capitalism. Nazi Germany was fascist. Italy under Mussolini was fascist. The Vatican is essentially fascist. And the NWO now developing is fascist. And the United States, through fascism, will lead the world into the false Babylonian counterfeit Christianity now being peddled by the ecumenicists, headed by Rome. Come out of her My people.
I agree with you.
I believe that Hitler was a creation of such Satanist Mob and all, He was there puppet and they played the games and very well played it was in fact, the Germans were totally duped lead astray buy such workings, this is a mastery of a game played and such Satanist do set even a 100 year plan to get to an objective and they slowly work at such with total devotion as they are masters at such at the top of it all.

When one bothers to look into such history in depth we can see their workings clearly, look at how Russia was played before it became Communist, it was all set up, they played the people like a musical instrument, thing is that the Satanist understand the people very well in how to play them. so they work on such people with a plan tailored just for them, the Germans had to be dealt with in a total different plan, in order to deal with them effectively and the modern day USA or Australia and the UK is much the same in how the Satanist have played there cards and it's all going well to the Satanist plans, Germany or west Europe is totally hopeless as they are totally dominated, some Nations in the East are awake to such game plays because they know of such workings because they lived under that type of domination and know where all such as that dribble leads to, so they fear such, but the West is totally ignorant for the most part of the people.

I understand the game that's at play, we have Agenda 21 that is real, it's not fiction ! but sadly no one cares enough to question this agenda or even to bother to look into it all :rolleyes: the ignorance of the public is just amazing. but the thing is this agenda makes what Hitler did in WW2 as bugger all to what this agenda has planed for us all, yet the media don't publish anything about there yearly gatherings, because they have been forbidden to do so by them :eek:o_O:rolleyes::oops::confused::mad::( and that's no secret ! I question my fellow man ! what the hell do they think that they are doing, as we have a Mob that are talking about wiping out more than half the people on earth and we sit back and don't raise a finger. but why ? don't believe it is true ? hell it's mentioned on TV every year that all the wealthiest morons are going to the gathering! but we are not allowed to hear what is taking place about what they have in store for us :confused: I ask why not ! Is that to much to ask :rolleyes:.

Now what if such as they were just like the ones who planed the killing of 6 million Jews, now I know that such was planed years in advance, there were newspaper story's years in advance of this 6 million Jews to be killed and I have seen them documented and the date on them years ago when I was investigating all such things that I could find.
I came across many people back in the 1980's and on who would stand over me for seeking into such things, they would very angry and ask what my name was and my address and say you have no right to such things and that book is not for you or do you really want that book are you sure and then 6 months later you never get anything. I thought what is this Communism I thought that it was my right to look into anything that I wanted to in Australia as that was what our people fought Hitler for I thought. I thought it was for our rights to freedom and free speech for all.
 

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Yes. American Christians should support their president. It is an instruction in Scripture that we should fully support authorities because they are there to restrain evil and to ensure that we can live in peace and safety in our communities. Therefore failure to fully support Donald Trump as President of the United States is sin and any opposition to him needs to be repented of.

It doesn't matter whether we agree with him personally, or his policies, and we don't even have to like him, but he is President and while in office we are to respect him in that capacity, otherwise we will lose God's support, because He is the Person who put Donald Trump in that role, and non-support of him is to fail to support the God who set him in the role of President.
Sorry, no. Did you fully support Obama? Would you fully support Sanders if he was elected? Would you have fully supported Hitler if you were living in 1940s Germany? How do you know you Trump has your best interests at heart and is not working secretly to bring in global governance?
By all means support the office of the presidency, but the individual... Regardless of what he does? I have serious reservations in that regard. Not just with Trump. But with any politician. We simply do not know who they represent. Irrespective of what their claims are, we know they are human and unless incredibly unique, have a price and an agenda. Is God in Trump's side? Absolutely. Is He inspiring Trump in everything he does? No. Trump is still an agent of free will. Though God may indeed use him, does not mean that Trump may not go off the rails at some later stage. That being the case, Christians need to use discernment and recognize at what stage Trump has turned away from his promises to the church and chosen a different path. And be honest. The only reason Trump has the support of the church is not because the Bible says, "support Trump", but because Trump has promised the church power. Political power. That concerns me, because politics, and please don't be offended, but politics is not the answer to America's ills.