Slaying the two witnesses

[michaelvpardo]

I said Moses wrote his own epitaph. He was not dead when he wrote it.

People are wrong who claim Moses did not write those words.

He came back from the dead to write them?

 

[Timtofly]

He came back from the dead to write them?

No, he wrote it before he walked out into the desert, never to be seen again.

Do you think Moses did not write all of the Pentateuch?

 

[michaelvpardo]

No, he wrote it before he walked out into the desert, never to be seen again.

Do you think Moses did not write all of the Pentateuch?

So you reject the following portion of scripture?
So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord. And He buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth Peor; but no one knows his grave to this day. Deuteronomy 34:5-6
This seems pretty clear to most people so how do you explain this little disagreement between scripture and your understanding?

Moses definitely didn't write all the pentateuch and Solomon definitely didn't write the last lines of the Song of Solomon, but unless you understand the rabbinical tradition of writing commentary directly on the scrolls of the law, you couldn't understand where biblical additions come from.

Prior to the invention of the printing press all books were hand written and hand copied. Try copying a chapter of Genesis by hand without stopping and then proof read it against the original. If you can do it without a single error, you're a far better scribe than I'll ever be. If you add your own comments about passages it's far easier to write across a page (or scroll) than to just write in the margins and when it's your scroll there's no reason to distinguish between your comments and the text. I have no idea what the literacy rate was in Israel, but some people, kings for example, were required by the law to write their own copies of the law for their own personal use. In the essene community copies with more than 3 or 4 copy errors were routinely discarded, but not destroyed, and stored away in large clay pots. Those became the first Dead Sea scrolls discovered.

Moses was literate and you'd expect a prince of Egypt to be well educated, but not all the books of the prophets were written by the prophets, but by scribes through dictation. Jeremiah was written by a scribe and his name is given in the text.
Even the book of the Revelation and the gospel according to John appear to have been written by two different people because the writing style and type of Greek language used is different from one book to the other, but that doesn't make them less the work of John. That only indicates that he used a scribe for one or both books.

With regard to Moses, we have no idea what part Oshea, the sun of Nun, played in the transcribing of the books of the law. He was Moses assistant, but scripture is silent about what he actually did to assist him.

 

[Timtofly]

So you reject the following portion of scripture?
So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord. And He buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth Peor; but no one knows his grave to this day. Deuteronomy 34:5-6
This seems pretty clear to most people so how do you explain this little disagreement between scripture and your understanding?

Moses definitely didn't write all the pentateuch and Solomon definitely didn't write the last lines of the Song of Solomon, but unless you understand the rabbinical tradition of writing commentary directly on the scrolls of the law, you couldn't understand where biblical additions come from.

Prior to the invention of the printing press all books were hand written and hand copied. Try copying a chapter of Genesis by hand without stopping and then proof read it against the original. If you can do it without a single error, you're a far better scribe than I'll ever be. If you add your own comments about passages it's far easier to write across a page (or scroll) than to just write in the margins and when it's your scroll there's no reason to distinguish between your comments and the text. I have no idea what the literacy rate was in Israel, but some people, kings for example, were required by the law to write their own copies of the law for their own personal use. In the essene community copies with more than 3 or 4 copy errors were routinely discarded, but not destroyed, and stored away in large clay pots. Those became the first Dead Sea scrolls discovered.

Moses was literate and you'd expect a prince of Egypt to be well educated, but not all the books of the prophets were written by the prophets, but by scribes through dictation. Jeremiah was written by a scribe and his name is given in the text.
Even the book of the Revelation and the gospel according to John appear to have been written by two different people because the writing style and type of Greek language used is different from one book to the other, but that doesn't make them less the work of John. That only indicates that he used a scribe for one or both books.

With regard to Moses, we have no idea what part Oshea, the sun of Nun, played in the transcribing of the books of the law. He was Moses assistant, but scripture is silent about what he actually did to assist him.

So, Moses did write it all including his own epitaph. Many educated men have written their own epitaph. I have no disagreement with Moses.

 

[michaelvpardo]

So, Moses did write it all including his own epitaph. Many educated men have written their own epitaph. I have no disagreement with Moses.

Just scripture? It says what it says and all in the past tense.

 

[Timtofly]

Just scripture? It says what it says and all in the past tense.

I do not accept that any one else but Moses wrote the books of Moses. You can accept it was edited and we do not have the originals to prove otherwise.

 

[michaelvpardo]

I do not accept that any one else but Moses wrote the books of Moses. You can accept it was edited and we do not have the originals to prove otherwise.

Thanks for clarity, and have a nice life.