The (7th) Abomination That Maketh Desolate

[Earburner]

KJV Mat. 24[15] WHEN YE therefore shall see the abomination [The REASON] of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand). Psalm 24:3-5
THEN let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:"

Mark 13[14] But WHEN YE shall SEE the abomination [The REASON] of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,). Psalm 24:3-5.
THEN let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Luke 21:4-20
[20] And WHEN YE shall SEE Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know [the REASON why] that the desolation thereof is NIGH.
[21] THEN let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
[22] For these be the days of vengeance [punishment], that ALL
THINGS which are written may be fulfilled.
[23] But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! FOR there shall be GREAT distress [TRIBULATION] in the land
and WRATH upon THIS people**

[24] And they [Israel] shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, UNTIL the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled (Rom.11:25; Mat 24:14).
**NOTE: the wrath of God is not upon His Born Again saints, being both Jew and Gentile.

Q. How long shall "the days of vengeance (punishment)" be? Luke 21:24.
A. UNTIL the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Rom. 11:25; Mat. 24:14.

John 2[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy [DESOLATE] THIS temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his body.

Now, let's go back to the above: Mat. 24:15 and Mark 13:14, and understand Who the abomination was committed against, by referencing the Seven abominations in Proverbs 6:16-19.

Now, since God made an interjection of a 7th abomination in Prov. 6:16, please find "THE abomination" that is the most abominable towards God, of which is actually "THE abomination that  MAKETH desolate"- KJV Daniel 12:11

Q. So then, according to the 7th abomination in Proverbs 6:16-19, who was it, that committed that abomination, when Jesus was with us in mortal flesh?
A. Mat. 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, [let] His [innocent] blood be on us, and on our children.

Q. What was the 7th abomination, that was committed against God the Father and the Son?
A. The shedding of innocent blood, of His only begotten Son. Proverbs 6:17.

You wouldn't happen to know of anyone else, that was physically born with innocent blood, would you???
I didn't think so!

Now, let's connect all of that with John 2:19 and understand which temple it was, that was going to be the VICTIM, to receive the act of the 7th abomination.
Well of course, it literarally was the mortal body/TEMPLE of the Lord Jesus Christ, having innocent blood.

Was it the Roman named Pilate or Titus, that committed the 7th abomination against God the Father and the Son, or....was it someone else, whereby such an act brought about that which [God] "MAKETH desolate", being that of the vengeance of God?

Q. Since 70AD., who is it that had fallen under the vengeance of God?
(Our clue: "wrath upon this people". Luke 21:23).
Please select the correct answer:
1. The Romans.
2. The Jews.

Through this brief study, you now have come to know, that act by Israel: "THE ABOMINATION [of shedding the innocent blood of Jesus] [is] THAT [of why God] MAKETH DESOLATE", and is now long past, of which shall NEVER be repeated again for THAT REASON, or any other reason. Dan. 12:11.

If one is ever going to understand the 70 weeks of Daniel 9:24-27, they MUST study it through the KJV only, with the teaching by God's Holy Spirit, and NOT by the wisdom of men.
1 Cor. 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.”

 

[Douggg]

KJV Mat. 24[15] WHEN YE therefore shall see the abomination [The REASON] of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand). Psalm 24:3-5

The abomination of desolation is not tied to Psalm 24:3-5, but to what is written in Daniel 12:11-12. And Revelation 13:14-15, the statue image made of the beast-king.

Daniel 12:11-12 is time of the end, as is everything in Daniel 12. Daniel 12:4

 

[Douggg]

Through this brief study, you now have come to know, that act by Israel: "THE ABOMINATION [of shedding the innocent blood of Jesus] [is] THAT [of why God] MAKETH DESOLATE", and is now long past, of which shall NEVER be repeated again for THAT REASON, or any other reason. Dan. 12:11.

Daniel 12:11 after the daily sacrifice is stopped, the abomination of desolation is "set up". "set up", where the daily sacrifices take place - on the temple mount.

The abomination of desolation will be the statue image of beast-king in the standing position - set up - placed on the temple mount. And them in Judea should flee right away to the mountains at that point.

Daniel 12:
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

verse 11 - from when the abomination of desolation is set up - 1290 days to sign of the Son of man in heaven, Matthew 24:30a

verse 12 - from when the abomination of desolation is set up - 1335 days to Jesus coming with power and great glory, Matthew 24:30b

(Matthew 24:30a) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: (Matthew 24:30b) and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Now you understand.

 

[Earburner]

The abomination of desolation is not tied to Psalm 24:3-5, but to what is written in Daniel 12:11-12. And Revelation 13:14-15, the statue image made of the beast-king.

Daniel 12:11-12 is time of the end, as is everything in Daniel 12. Daniel 12:4

Thanks for your reply.
It's not that I don't fully comprehend the details of what the majority of church- ianity teaches about KJV Dan. 12:11, but rather of why Jesus referenced it, in relation to what He means in KJV John 2:18-21, specifically verse 19.

As to the "time of the end", one needs to understand that prior to the manifestation of Jesus, who was made to be mortal flesh, the world was living under the "Age of Indignation". It is that Age that came to an end.

But, ever since the resurrection of Jesus into New Life, since Pentecost, we all have been living under the new "Age of God's Grace", through faith in Jesus.
KJV Heb. 9:26-28
"For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but NOW  ONCE in the END OF the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself." KJV Hebrews 9:26.

That END, is fully described in KJV Dan. 9:24-27, aka "the 70 weeks", that were determined upon the people of Israel (verse 24).

Q. Do you know what it is, that was determined in KJV Dan. 9:24?

 

[Douggg]

. Do you know what it is, that was determined in KJV Dan. 9:24?

70 weeks of years determined upon Daniel's people and Jerusalem. 69 completed. The 70th week remains.

The 70th week of Daniel 9:27 is in Ezekiel 39 following the Gog/Magog event.

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Ezekiel 39. Gog/Magog event.

Then the 7 years in verses 9-10. Corresponding to the 70th week of Daniel 9:27.

The prince who shall come following Gog/Magog will be perceived to be the messiah by Jews and anointed the King of Israel, by the false prophet of Revelation, perceived to be Elijah initially by Jews.

Anointed as the King of Israel messiah, the person becomes the Antichrist. He begins the 7 years by confirming the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years in Daniel 9:27, by the method required by Moses in Deuteronomy 31:9-13, by overseeing the reading of the law from the temple mount (the place of God's choosing) to the nation of Israel, the 7 year cycle in those verses.

The Antichrist betrays his own people the Jews about 3 years into the 7 years, by his transgression of desolation act, Daniel 8:13, and Jews reject him as continuing at their King of Israel. End of his time as the Antichrist.

Killed for his act in Ezekiel 28:1-10, and brought back to life in Isaiah 14:18-20, to become the beast-king of Revelation, the dictator of the EU - his original origin.

The Jews, currently blinded, Romans 11:25, will see the light and turn to Jesus - who will return to this earth in Zechariah 14, at the end of the 7 years to rescue them.

In Ezekiel 39:17-20, at the end of the 7 years is the Armageddon event.

In Ezekiel 39:21-29, is Jesus Himself speaking in the text having returned to this earth, His Second Coming.

Ezekiel 39:21 - read Psalms 2:8.

Ezekiel 39:22 - what Jew presently think about Jesus will change, from that day and forward.

Ezekiel 39:28 - is what Jews call the final redemption, i.e. all of the house of Israel completely returned to the land of Israel. Corresponds to Matthew 24:31, the gathering of the elect the Jews still scattered in the nations.

 

[Earburner]

70 weeks of years determined upon Daniel's people and Jerusalem. 69 completed. The 70th week remains.

Yes, the time of 70 weeks of years x7 = 490 years (7 yrs= 1 wk.), was determined (decreed, marked out, allotted) for the people of Israel.
However, in verse 24, what six issues/works would be determined and finished within one week, being the 70th week (3.5 + 3.5= 7 years).
The joint ministry of John the Baptist and Jesus was for exactly 3.5 years. Whose ministry was it that was "cut off" in the midst of the week (the 70th)?
Ans. Jesus.

The 70th week of Daniel 9:27 is in Ezekiel 39 following the Gog/Magog event.

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Ezekiel 39. Gog/Magog event.

Then the 7 years in verses 9-10. Corresponding to the 70th week of Daniel 9:27.

The prince who shall come following Gog/Magog will be perceived to be the messiah by Jews and anointed the King of Israel, by the false prophet of Revelation, perceived to be Elijah initially by Jews.

Anointed as the King of Israel messiah, the person becomes the Antichrist. He begins the 7 years by confirming the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years in Daniel 9:27, by the method required by Moses in Deuteronomy 31:9-13, by overseeing the reading of the law from the temple mount (the place of God's choosing) to the nation of Israel, the 7 year cycle in those verses.

The Antichrist betrays his own people the Jews about 3 years into the 7 years, by his transgression of desolation act, Daniel 8:13, and Jews reject him as continuing at their King of Israel. End of his time as the Antichrist.

Killed for his act in Ezekiel 28:1-10, and brought back to life in Isaiah 14:18-20, to become the beast-king of Revelation, the dictator of the EU - his original origin.

The Jews, currently blinded, Romans 11:25, will see the light and turn to Jesus - who will return to this earth in Zechariah 14, at the end of the 7 years to rescue them.

In Ezekiel 39:17-20, at the end of the 7 years is the Armageddon event.

In Ezekiel 39:21-29, is Jesus Himself speaking in the text having returned to this earth, His Second Coming.

Ezekiel 39:21 - read Psalms 2:8.

Ezekiel 39:22 - what Jew presently think about Jesus will change, from that day and forward.

Ezekiel 39:28 - is what Jews call the final redemption, i.e. all of the house of Israel completely returned to the land of Israel. Corresponds to Matthew 24:31, the gathering of the elect the Jews still scattered in the nations.

Although I do fully understand how and why church-ianity holds to that form of doctrine, about the 70th week being tacked onto the end of time, I completely disagree with that manipulation, especially when ALL of the 70th week is clearly shown in ALL of
KJV Dan. 9:27.

In order to see it correctly, one MUST spiritually discern which "he" (of the two shown), it is that is being talked about in verse 27.
I say that it is Jesus, that is being talked about, and not the Roman Commander Titus, or any other future singular man, that they can dream up, for the so called "THE" Antichrist". By the way that term is not used or found in the KJV Bible!!
However "that spirit of antichrist" within "the man of sin" (plural)? Yes! There are "many antichrists".

 

[Douggg]

Yes, the time of 70 weeks x7 days = 490 years, was determined (decreed, marked out, allotted) for the people of Israel.
However, in verse 24, what six issues/works would be finished in one week, being the 70th week?

Although I do fully understand how and why church-ianity holds to that form of doctrine, about the 70th week being tacked onto the end of time, I completely disagree with that manipulation, especially when ALL of the 70th week is clearly shown in ALL of
KJV Dan. 9:27.

In order to see it correctly, one MUST spiritually discern which "he" (of the two shown), it is that is being talked about in verse 27.
I say that it is Jesus, and not the Roman Commander Titus, or any other future singular man, that they can dream up for the so called "THE" Antichrist.

Ezekiel 39 takes the guess work out of when Daniel 9:27 is fulfilled because Ezekiel 39 has Jesus's Second Coming in it.

 

[Douggg]

If you are wanting to know when the abomination of desolation fits into the 70th week, here is one of my charts.

 

[Douggg]

If you are wanting to know how the major events fit into the 70th week, is another one of my charts. Start in the upper left hand corner and follow the red line down to the lower right hand corner.

 

[Douggg]

If you are wanting to know when and how the Antichrist transitions into becoming the beast, here is another one of my charts for that.

Antichrist sits in the temple, revealed to be the man of sin, assassinated, brought back to life as the beast.

 

[Earburner]

Ezekiel 39 takes the guess work out of when Daniel 9:27 is fulfilled because Ezekiel 39 has Jesus's Second Coming in it.

Hold up on the charts etc. for now.
You are not staying with the context of the 70 week prophecy in Daniel, but instead you rushing and gushing towards the far future, losing all other pertinent facts in the process, like how do the words in verse 24 fit into the prophetic weeks, and by who.

Let's take a look at those words, and by whom those words are accomplished.
KJV Dan. 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,
1. to finish the transgression, and
2. to make an end of sins, and
3. to make reconciliation for iniquity, and
4. to bring in everlasting righteousness, and
5. to seal up the vision and prophecy, and
6. to anoint the most Holy.

Who "finished" all of the above 6 works of God?
In the following, please select the correct, single answer:
1. Roman Gov. Pilate?
2. A singular man called THE Antichrist?
3. Jesus Christ Himself?
4. Roman Commander Titus in 70 AD.?

 

[Douggg]

Hold up on the charts etc. for now.
You are not staying with the context of the 70 week prophecy in Daniel, but instead you rushing and gushing towards the far future, losing all other pertinent facts in the process, like how do the words in verse 24 fit into the prophetic weeks, and by who.

Let's take a look at those words, and by whom those words are accomplished.
KJV Dan. 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,
1. to finish the transgression, and
2. to make an end of sins, and
3. to make reconciliation for iniquity, and
4. to bring in everlasting righteousness, and
5. to seal up the vision and prophecy, and
6. to anoint the most Holy.

Who "finished" all of the above 6 works of God?
In the following, please select the correct, single answer:
1. Roman Gov. Pilate?
2. A singular man called THE Antichrist?
3. Jesus Christ Himself?
4. Roman Commander Titus in 70 AD.?

Your four choices don't contain the correct answer. The correct answer is God the Father and Jesus the Son, at the time of the end.

 

[covenantee]

Hold up on the charts etc. for now.
You are not staying with the context of the 70 week prophecy in Daniel, but instead you rushing and gushing towards the far future, losing all other pertinent facts in the process, like how do the words in verse 24 fit into the prophetic weeks, and by who.

Let's take a look at those words, and by whom those words are accomplished.
KJV Dan. 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,
1. to finish the transgression, and
2. to make an end of sins, and
3. to make reconciliation for iniquity, and
4. to bring in everlasting righteousness, and
5. to seal up the vision and prophecy, and
6. to anoint the most Holy.

Who "finished" all of the above 6 works of God?
In the following, please select the correct, single answer:
1. Roman Gov. Pilate?
2. A singular man called THE Antichrist?
3. Jesus Christ Himself?
4. Roman Commander Titus in 70 AD.?

Amen bro.

Jesus Christ Himself has finished it all, perfectly and completely, long ago at Calvary.

 

[ewq1938]

The Ac is not assassinated nor resurrects from the dead. That is a terrible misunderstanding of Rev 13 where one area of the world that the kingdom beast rules will have had a wound from war, but healed from it like how Japan healed from the wounds inflicted upon it's cities from atomic bombs.

The AC isn't the one wounded, plus the wound and healing happened before the sea beast even rises to power.

If you are wanting to know when and how the Antichrist transitions into becoming the beast, here is another one of my charts for that.

Antichrist sits in the temple, revealed to be the man of sin, assassinated, brought back to life as the beast.


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[covenantee]

Yes, the time of 70 weeks of years x7 = 490 years (7 yrs= 1 wk.), was determined (decreed, marked out, allotted) for the people of Israel.
However, in verse 24, what six issues/works would be determined and finished within one week, being the 70th week (3.5 + 3.5= 7 years).
The joint ministry of John the Baptist and Jesus was for exactly 3.5 years. Whose ministry was it that was "cut off" in the midst of the week (the 70th)?
Ans. Jesus.


Although I do fully understand how and why church-ianity holds to that form of doctrine, about the 70th week being tacked onto the end of time, I completely disagree with that manipulation, especially when ALL of the 70th week is clearly shown in ALL of
KJV Dan. 9:27.

In order to see it correctly, one MUST spiritually discern which "he" (of the two shown), it is that is being talked about in verse 27.
I say that it is Jesus, that is being talked about, and not the Roman Commander Titus, or any other future singular man, that they can dream up, for the so called "THE" Antichrist". By the way that term is not used or found in the KJV Bible!!
However "that spirit of antichrist" within "the man of sin" (plural)? Yes! There are "many antichrists".

Amen bro.

In addition to identifying "he" through spiritual discernment, "he" can also be corroboratively identified through simple grammar:

The grammatical antecedent/referent of "he" in verse 27 is "prince" in verse 26.

The grammatical antecedent/referent of "prince" in verse 26 is "Messiah the Prince" in verse 25.

Therefore, spiritually and grammatically, "he" in verse 27 is "Messiah the Prince".

 

[Douggg]

Yes, the time of 70 weeks of years x7 = 490 years (7 yrs= 1 wk.), was determined (decreed, marked out, allotted) for the people of Israel.
However, in verse 24, what six issues/works would be determined and finished within one week, being the 70th week (3.5 + 3.5= 7 years).
The joint ministry of John the Baptist and Jesus was for exactly 3.5 years. Whose ministry was it that was "cut off" in the midst of the week (the 70th)?
Ans. Jesus.

No, Jesus was crucified after 69 weeks (62 + 7 ) not 69 1/2 weeks in Daniel 9:26.

Ezekiel 39 takes the guesswork out of Daniel 9 regarding whether the 70th week is fulfilled or not. Because Jesus's Second Coming is in verse 21-29 of Ezekiel 39.

 

[Douggg]

Amen bro.

In addition to identifying "he" through spiritual discernment, "he" can also be corroboratively identified through simple grammar:

The grammatical antecedent/referent of "he" in verse 27 is "prince" in verse 26.

The grammatical antecedent/referent of "prince" in verse 26 is "Messiah the Prince" in verse 25.

Therefore, spiritually and grammatically, "he" in verse 27 is "Messiah the Prince".

Ezekiel 39 takes the guesswork out of Daniel 9 regarding whether the 70th week is fulfilled or not. Because Jesus's Second Coming is in verse 21-29 of Ezekiel 39.

 

[Douggg]

The Ac is not assassinated nor resurrects from the dead. That is a terrible misunderstanding of Rev 13 where one area of the world that the kingdom beast rules will have had a wound from war, but healed from it like how Japan healed from the wounds inflicted upon it's cities from atomic bombs.

After revealing himself to be man of sin by sitting in the temple proclaiming to the world that he has achieved God-hood, Ezekiel 28:1-10 indicates that he will be assassinated by strangers to him, verse 7.

Revelation 13:14 wounded by the sword and did live.

Revelation 17:8 - the unsaved world will wonder at the beast that was, and is not, yet is.

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Ezekiel 28:1-10 - the Antichrist is code named the prince of Tyrus
Ezekiel 28:12-19 - Satan is code named the king of Tyrus.

 

[Earburner]

Your four choices don't contain the correct answer. The correct answer is God the Father and Jesus the Son, at the time of the end.

Yes indeed!! God the Father did dwell within Jesus' mortal flesh.
All along in my discussion with you, I have said and shown that. So, for you to come back at me and point out an oversight on my part is a moot point. It simply reveals to me that you can't answer my question, and therefore you are lacking in your spiritual and biblical understanding of what KJV Dan. 9:24 is actually describing.

In prayer to His Father, in the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus Himself openly stated that He had finished the work that He was given to do by His Father.
John 17:1-4
I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which THOU gavest me to do.

And then while on the cross, Jesus confirmed it, by saying three words:
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

KJV Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled on THAT very day of Jesus' mortal death.
Now, ever since Pentecost, all "born again Christians", are the recipients and inheritors of those six works of God, that God GAVE Jesus to do, as shown in the latter part of KJV Dan. 9:27. See also Acts 10:45.

 

[Douggg]

All along in my discussion with you, I have said and shown that. So, for you to come back at me and point out an oversight on my part is a moot point.

It is not moot because the 70th week is in the 7 years following Ezekiel 39 of when those things in Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled. Daniel's people, the Jews, have yet to embrace the gospel of salvation. Jerusalem is yet to say of Jesus - blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, Matthew 24:39.

The vision in Daniel 9:24 to be fulfilled is referring to the vision Daniel had when Daniel first encountered Gabriel... which in Daniel 8 is the vision of the time of the end transgression of desolation regarding the little horn who will meet his end in Daniel 8:25 when he stands up against the Prince of princes Jesus.

This is what you nave not shown in your analysis.... the vision in Daniel 9:24 refers to the vision in Daniel 9:21-23, which refers back to the vision Gabriel informed Daniel about when it would take place in Daniel 8 and now in Daniel 9 - the 70th week. All corresponding to Ezekiel 39 - which your view contradicts.


Daniel 9: 21 Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.

22 And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.

23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

The vision of the little horn, the daily sacrifice stopped, the transgression of desolation, the breaking of the little horn by Jesus - covers 2300 days, in the time of the end, Daniel 8:17. To be fulfilled in the 70th week, the seven years following Gog/Magog in Ezekiel 39.