Understanding what is the "Abomination of Desolation".

[Timtofly]

An unclean thing is an abomination.

I explained in post #66 how an army that worshiped idols was an abomination to the Jews. Don't you believe the Jews?

Trade in your spectacles.

So the AoD had stood in the holy place years before the birth of Christ and stood there for around 100 years?

 

[covenantee]

So the AoD had stood in the holy place years before the birth of Christ and stood there for around 100 years?

So the Roman armies just stood in Jerusalem continuously for around 100 years?

Think how bored they would have been just standing around for around 100 years.

Don't you know that they destroyed and rebuilt Jerusalem every day for 100 years?

They would destroy it one day, and rebuild it the next.

That way they didn't get bored.

 

[Timtofly]

So the Roman armies just stood in Jerusalem continuously for around 100 years?

Think how bored they would have been just standing around for around 100 years.

Don't you know that they destroyed and rebuilt Jerusalem every day for 100 years?

They would destroy it one day, and rebuild it the next.

That way they didn't get bored.

You never specified the names of the Roman soldiers who fit your definition, that were listed in that chapter.

So I assumed you meant any Roman legion that had a Roman standard. There was always a Roman presence starting in the last half century before Christ in Jerusalem for several hundred years. They were the empire considered 4th throughout the book of Daniel. You want us to accept the Romans never entered Jerusalem except for your 3.5 year time period between 66AD and 70AD?

You make up false claims, and then deny reality, and then when called out, just make jokes out of your whole point.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Did you flunk kindergarten English?


You're hallucinating. But that's a typical dispensational futurite affliction.

Daniel said nothing of the sort. Here's what he did say:

"for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate", referring to the overwhelming desolation which would be inflicted by the Roman armies.

When you follow the grammatical referent chain back through the verses, "he" is "Messiah the Prince", who was the Divine Commander-in-Chief of the Roman armies visiting judgment, destruction, and desolation upon the nation that had rejected Him.

If you can't comprehend it, leave it for those who can.

Oh I can comprehend it clearly.

But I will leave you to your fantasy world.

We will see one day. And you can explain to God why you could not understand his words.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You make up false claims, and then deny reality, and then when called out, just make jokes out of your whole point.

Its all they have..

 

[covenantee]

Oh I can comprehend it clearly.

But I will leave you to your fantasy world.

We will see one day. And you can explain to God why you could not understand his words.

I thank God that He grants me insight to understand His Words.

 

[covenantee]

You never specified the names of the Roman soldiers who fit your definition, that were listed in that chapter.

So I assumed you meant any Roman legion that had a Roman standard. There was always a Roman presence starting in the last half century before Christ in Jerusalem for several hundred years. They were the empire considered 4th throughout the book of Daniel. You want us to accept the Romans never entered Jerusalem except for your 3.5 year time period between 66AD and 70AD?

You make up false claims, and then deny reality, and then when called out, just make jokes out of your whole point.

You want us to accept that all the Romans did was stand around for 100 years.

Your claims are jokes, and merit jokes in response.

 

[covenantee]

So the AoD had stood in the holy place years before the birth of Christ and stood there for around 100 years?

You don't believe the Jews, whom you adore?

For shame.

 

[Timtofly]

You want us to accept that all the Romans did was stand around for 100 years.

Your claims are jokes, and merit jokes in response.

You want us to believe the Romans just stood there for 3.5 years doing nothing, while the Jews destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple.

 

[covenantee]

You want us to believe the Romans just stood there for 3.5 years doing nothing, while the Jews destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple.

Link to the associated post.

 

[Hobie]

Yeah, it's called the literal "history" that fulfilled the literal "prophecy" of "the abomination that maketh desolate". Unfortunately, "church-ianity" isn't keen on history, but rather prefers to belive in futuristic religious sci-fy.

Herein lies the problem with the Premil crowd, everything fulfilled in the past must be manipulated into the future, in order to support the theory of a future 1000 year reign of Christ on earth.

Maybe if all would would read (and perceive) about the 7th abomination in KJV Proverbs 6:16-19, they might suddenly realize which abomination it was, who it was against, and who it really was that actually committed it.
Clue:
Mat. 27
[25] Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

This is the issue today, will they be swayed by corrupt leaders, or follow the truth..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I thank God that He grants me insight to understand His Words.

Do not think it is God you are listening to. Just saying

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You want us to accept that all the Romans did was stand around for 100 years.

Your claims are jokes, and merit jokes in response.

Your response is a joke. as you can not comprehend what he was saying..

 

[covenantee]

Do not think it is God you are listening to. Just saying

I have 17 centuries of historical true Christian Church orthodoxy to affirm me.

You don't.

 

[covenantee]

Your response is a joke. as you can not comprehend what he was saying..

Neither can he.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I have 17 centuries of historical true Christian Church orthodoxy to affirm me.

You don't.

The Jews had how many years of history? (from Abraham till Christ)

Yet they crucified Christ.

I would not use history as your proof as we see from the history that is a faulty reason to continue to believe as we do

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Neither can he.

Oh he can, I even did.

You can;t because you do not want to see it. Because it would prove you wrong

 

[covenantee]

The Jews had how many years of history? (from Abraham till Christ)

Yet they crucified Christ.

I would not use history as your proof as we see from the history that is a faulty reason to continue to believe as we do

Whom to believe?

1. Seventeen centuries of historical defenders of the true faith
or
2. You

Do you need a hint?

 

[covenantee]

Oh he can, I even did.

You can;t because you do not want to see it. Because it would prove you wrong

You're right; I don't want to see fantasy and fallacy.

I'll leave that to you.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Whom to believe?

1. Seventeen centuries of historical defenders of the true faith
or
2. You

Do you need a hint?

Whom to believe

The word of God

History.

I chose to not make the same mistake of the past. and chose the word of God