The 'blessed virgin Mary'

[David in NJ]

were Adam and Eve married in the garden?

Adam & Eve = the first marriage made in heaven -

Have you never read: "Our Father who art in heaven.....Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."

 

[theefaith]

Adam & Eve = the first marriage made in heaven -

Have you never read: "Our Father who art in heaven.....Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."

So in the garden of eden they were married without sex???

marriage is according to consent! The exchange of vows! Not sex!

 

[David in NJ]

So in the garden of eden they were married without sex???

marriage is according to consent! The exchange of vows! Not sex!

Sexual union, which is a MUST DO for reproduction, was designed and built by God in Adam & Eve

They were married from the moment God made Eve from Adams rib - sex was Made to Order by God.

And the Lord God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.” Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name. So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him.

And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.

And Adam said:

“This is now bone of my bones
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”

Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

 

[theefaith]

Sexual union, which is a MUST DO for reproduction, was designed and built by God in Adam & Eve

They were married from the moment God made Eve from Adams rib - sex was Made to Order by God.

And the Lord God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.” Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name. So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him.

And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.

And Adam said:

“This is now bone of my bones
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”

Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

yet they were married in the garden but there was no sex

sex did not happen in the garden only after in chapter 4!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[theefaith]

So Mary and Joseph could be married by consent without sex!!!!!

 

[David in NJ]

yet they were married in the garden but there was no sex

sex did not happen in the garden only after in chapter 4!!!!!!!!!!!!

God created Adam & Eve in marriage to have sex and reproduce while in the Garden.

It never came to fruition because of satan.

Once sin entered Adam & Eve, God revoked their tenant status within the Garden.

That is the ONLY reason why they reproduced after Genesis chapter 4.

 

[David in NJ]

So Mary and Joseph could be married by consent without sex!!!!!

God never told anyone to marry without sexual union.

Satan has told you, and others, that to be holy is to abstain from marriage and not have husband and wife sexual relations.

"Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons, influenced by the hypocrisy of liars, whose consciences are seared with a hot iron.
They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."
1 Timothy ch4

 

[theefaith]

God created Adam & Eve in marriage to have sex and reproduce while in the Garden.

It never came to fruition because of satan.

Once sin entered Adam & Eve, God revoked their tenant status within the Garden.

That is the ONLY reason why they reproduced after Genesis chapter 4.

conjecture!

they were married by consent without sex same as Mary and Joseph

denying the lower good of sex to bring the higher good of eternal salvation!

 

[theefaith]

God never told anyone to marry without sexual union.

Satan has told you, and others, that to be holy is to abstain from marriage and not have husband and wife sexual relations.

"Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons, influenced by the hypocrisy of liars, whose consciences are seared with a hot iron.
They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."
1 Timothy ch4

we don’t prohibit marrige
But the virginal religious state is preferred for holiness and God’s service

 

[David in NJ]

conjecture!

they were married by consent without sex same as Mary and Joseph

denying the lower good of sex to bring the higher good of eternal salvation!

Holy Spirit says you are teaching doctrines of demons.

 

[David in NJ]

we don’t prohibit marrige
But the virginal religious state is preferred for holiness and God’s service

Holy Spirit says you are teaching doctrines of demons = 1 Timothy 4:1=5

Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons, 2influenced by the hypocrisy of liars, whose consciences are seared with a hot iron. 3They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, 5because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

 

[theefaith]

Holy Spirit says you are teaching doctrines of demons.

salvation?

 

[theefaith]

Holy Spirit says you are teaching doctrines of demons = 1 Timothy 4:1=5

Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons, 2influenced by the hypocrisy of liars, whose consciences are seared with a hot iron. 3They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, 5because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

thee faith refered to is the CATHOLIC FAITH REVEALED BY CHRIST AND TAUGHT BY HOLY MOTHER CHURCH

which you reject

 

[David in NJ]

thee faith refered to is the CATHOLIC FAITH REVEALED BY CHRIST AND TAUGHT BY HOLY MOTHER CHURCH

which you reject

The Roman Catholic Vatican Religion is the Mother of HARLOTS revealed in His Word and thru the Holy Apostles which you reject.

 

[theefaith]

The Roman Catholic Vatican Religion is the Mother of HARLOTS revealed in His Word and thru the Holy Apostles which you reject.

no that refers to the pagan Roman Empire conquered by Christ and his church


You quoted a scripture
In the latter times some would depart the faith
And that is the Protestant revolt

 

[Behold]

no that refers to the pagan Roman Empire conquered by Christ and his church
You quoted a scripture
In the latter times some would depart the faith
And that is the Protestant revolt

You are confused.
Notice that you think that the Catholic Church ("the cult of Mary"), is...."Faith".

You just stated that to depart from FAITH, is to leave the Catholic Church.

= nonsense.

 

[Behold]

Other than these examples, I see no other blessed saint with Jesus in heaven that is recognized by God as 'special' to Himself and His ministry. None shall be better or worse, higher or lower, honored more or less, nor specially named than any other...

Actually you'll be rewarded in Heaven, according to "what you have done in My body".
This is the Judgement Seat of Christ, where we are all heading.

Notice also that Jesus said of Paul, that He is a "chosen Vessel". Acts 9
So, that is not the same as those who are not.

Finally, "God is a respecter of NO Man/Person"......so, that is another context that has to understood.

 

[David in NJ]

no that refers to the pagan Roman Empire conquered by Christ and his church


You quoted a scripture
In the latter times some would depart the faith
And that is the Protestant revolt

The Faith is the Word of God.

RCC is the Harlot that produces pedophile priests and idolatry.

Jerusalem which is Above is the Mother of those who belong to Christ.

Unless you repent, you will die in your sins.

 

[theefaith]

You are confused.
Notice that you think that the Catholic Church ("the cult of Mary"), is...."Faith".

You just stated that to depart from FAITH, is to leave the Catholic Church.

= nonsense.

not refers to the catholic faith yes
The faith revealed by Christ and taught by holy mother church then later in the 1600’s they departed the faith and revolted rebellion protest thee faith of christ

 

[Behold]

So Mary and Joseph could be married by consent without sex!!!!!

You can be married and not have a wedding, or a license.

All you have to do is this..

"2 shall become one flesh"

"do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot (fornication) is ONE Flesh".


So, that is interesting isn't it?...espeically if you are a person who has had sex with 10, 20, 200, 800, different people.

That is a lot of "2 shall become ONE Flesh".

Are you glad that the blood of Jesus cleanses us from ALL sin, and that God does not charge sin to the born again..... Romans 4:8.

Salvation, is the total clearing of the sin's committed...all your life.
That is the Grace of God that is : "and God made Jesus to become sin".

"the Just for the unjust".

Welcome to : Salvation.