The Church decided the canon. How do you know you have the correct canon?

[One 2 question]

Those that believe the Lord has FAILED to see to it His Word was put in to written form... are deceived by devils.

Again what are YOU refering to when you say His Word? There are different interpretations of this commonly used term.

 

[One 2 question]

Uh huh, and the "spirit" you speak of has brought forth. ....

Do you know the Spirit within me, of Who I speak. I have clarified Who He is in most of my quotes. The fruit in my life reveal Who lives within me.

Some people who don't agree with what I believe and what I say will without investigation claim that the indwelling Spirit is evil, a demon.

Wouldn't this be like the Pharisees accusing Jesus of being a servant of Beelzebub.
Then one possessed with a demon was brought to Him, blind and mute, and He healed him, so that the blind and mute man both spoke and saw. All the people were amazed and said, “Is He not the Son of David?”
But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “This Man does not cast out demons, except by Beelzebub the ruler of the demons.”

 

[One 2 question]

Uh huh, and the "spirit" you speak of has brought forth the falling away where false doctrine is what the majority of pastors and chureches teach these days such as all future sins have already been forgiven, once saved always saved, gay "christians", drunk "christians", pot smoking "christians", new age "christians", witches and warlocks claiming to be "christians", and the normalization of iniquity as being no big deal

Yes, there are counterfeits, tares among the wheat. False prophets, teachers and apostles. But Jesus knew this and warned His first disciples about them. The angels did too but God said to not try and remove them until harvest time.

 

[One 2 question]

As long as these teachings you are recieivng as you claim from the Holy Spirit do not contradict the written word, fine. Otherwise they are false teachings from angles of light sent to imprison you in false doctrine.

I will receive and obey what the Holy Spirit within me tells me. If what God wrote down and gave to Moses is different to what the Holy Spirit says to me than like Joshua, I will listen and believe what the Holy Spirit has spoken directly to my spirit.

You too can learn to hear and see what the Spirit of the Creator is communicating to you regardless of if it can or can't be found in the fragments of scriptures we have today.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The Martyrs were Catholics.

On the way to his martyrdom - Apostolic Father, Ignatius of Antioch wrote about the Eucharist, the Real Presence, obedience to the “Catholic Church”, the primacy of the Bishop of Rome, etc. Virtually EVERY Pope ini the first 400 years was martyred for the faith.

Well there were no popes for the first 400 years.

And Ignatius got it wrong! Rome did not become the headquarters of the church until after constantine was dead.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I will receive and obey what the Holy Spirit within me tells me. If what God wrote down and gave to Moses is different to what the Holy Spirit says to me than like Joshua, I will listen and believe what the Holy Spirit has spoken directly to my spirit.

You too can learn to hear and see what the Spirit of the Creator is communicating to you regardless of if it can or can't be found in the fragments of scriptures we have today.

Well how do you know every voice you hear is the Holy spirit? Satan masquerades as an angel of light and can imitate that still small voice well.

And I am speaking of the New Testament. The rules of the old have been superseded by the rules of the new

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I already torpedoed this "Dagon-worship" nonsense as it pertains to the miter.
People who perpetuate this garbage are ignorant of Christian history.

Why don't you Google "Ichthus" and learn something about your Christian roots .

Why? I already am well versed about how Ichthus was used.

- In the Epistle of Clement (80 AD) – Clement, the Bishop of Rome (Pope) he settles a matter in the Church at Corinth and orders them to obey.

Well He was a Pastor yes. But Paul corrected Corinth as well. did that make him a pope too?

So much for your phony time frame of "384-399" . .

Not phony, first time a Pastor from rome called themself Pope. Look it up yourself.
from Wiki:

Apostolic authority​

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Irenaeus in the Nuremberg Chronicle
In his writing against the Gnostics, who claimed to possess a secret oral tradition from Jesus himself, Irenaeus claimed that the bishops in different cities are known as far back as the Apostles and that the oral tradition he lists from the Apostles is a safe guide to the interpretation of Scripture.

this is the classic definition of occult mysticism. Secret oral traditions passed down. No way to verify or prove right or wrong.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Well there were no popes for the first 400 years.

And YOU can continue to live in denial. But, as I have amply shown – History proved you wrong . . .

And Ignatius got it wrong! Rome did not become the headquarters of the church until after constantine was dead.

WRONG.

As I already pointed to Pope Clement I (80 AD) in His Letter to the Corinthians - he was RULING on matters in the Church at Corinth from his Papal See in Rome.

- I also educated you about the decision made by Pope Victor I in the Quartodeciman Controversy in the 2nd century.

- I quoted Tertullian in his 2nd century letter, Di Pudicitia, with regard to Pope Callixtus.

These are ALL long before Constantine – as are the following:
Irenaeus
… here the successions of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles. Peter and Paul, that church which has the tradition and the faith which comes down to us after having been announced to men by the apostles. With that church (Rome), because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree, that is, all the faithful in the whole world, and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition (Against Heresies 3:3:2 [inter A.D. 180-190]).

Cyprian
With a false bishop appointed for themselves by heretics, they dare even to set sail and carry letters from schismatics and blasphemers to the Chair of Peter and to the principal church at Rome, in which sacerdotal unity has its source" (Epistle to Cornelius [Bishop of Rome] 59:14 [A.D. 252]).

So too, all the apostles are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he should desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church? (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4 [A.D. 251]).

So much for your counterfeit version of History . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Why? I aready am well versed about how Ichthus was used.

Why? Because YOU keep bringing it up . . .

Well He was a Pastor yes. But Paul corrected Corinth as well. did that make him a pope too?

Paul was evangelizing the Corinthians. Clement was not.
He ruled over them from Rome.

Not phony, first time a Pastor from rome called themself Pope. Look it up yourself.

This is the most ridiculous argument you’re devised yet.

The word, “Pope” simply means “Papa” – Father. It is a term of endearment – NOT a title, which developed over time. “Pope” isn’t even an official title.

His official title include:
- Bishop of Rome
- Vicar of Jesus Christ, aka Vicar of Christ
- Successor of the Prince of the Apostles
- Primate of Italy
- Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province
- Sovereign of the State of Vatican City
- Servant of the Servants of God

from Wiki:
In his writing against the Gnostics, who claimed to possess a secret oral tradition from Jesus himself, Irenaeus claimed that the bishops in different cities are known as far back as the Apostles and that the oral tradition he lists from the Apostles is a safe guide to the interpretation of Scripture.

this is the classic definition of occult mysticism. Secret oral traditions passed down. No way to verify or prove right or wrong.

Soooo,Paul was being "occultic" when he yold the Thessalonians to "...hold fast to the Traditions they were taught - by ORAL statement or by Letter of ours"(2 Thess. 2:15)??

Fascinating . . .

 

[rebuilder 454]

He fell forward in submission and surrender unto the Lord.

He did not fall backwards laying on his back playing like he was receiving some blessing from the Lord like the fake "slain in the spirit" claims we see in some churches today

That's like saying if you encounter God alone or in a worship service and get teary eyed it is fake and from the devil.
You know what the unpardonable sin is?
What you are doing.
Accusing me, that KNOWS MY GOD of being a fake pretender. Actually you copy the pharisees in ascribing God's power to the devil.
That is EXACTLY the accusations of the devil.
You make a great "accuser of the brethren"

 

[rebuilder 454]

He fell forward in submission and surrender unto the Lord.

He did not fall backwards laying on his back playing like he was receiving some blessing from the Lord like the fake "slain in the spirit" claims we see in some churches today

Hate to diminish your false doctrine.
Jn 18
5 They answered him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I am he.”[a] Judas, who betrayed him, was standing with them. 6 When Jesus said to them, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground.

The power of God hit them and they were knocked down. Ahem...BACKWARDS
Paul was probably knocked backwards as well.
You don't know how it happened, but your embarrassing false doctrine needs Paul falling forward.
What a ridiculous argument to try and explain away the power of God.
You need to stay away from haters, with time on their hands to attack charismatic brethren.
You need to take a step back and examine your heart to find out the source of that venom to have to the brethren that know God way deeper than your mental gospel doctrine.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Again what are YOU refering to when you say His Word?

Those that don't accept that the Lord Jesus personally oversaw what God wants mankind to kn ow to be put in written form via the Holy Ghost... will continue to be deceived by the devil that creates enmity between themselves and the Lord because they don't accept what the Lord has said thru His Word... this please the devil because it's an open door for doctrines of demons to be accepted by such individuals.

Do you know the spirit within me, of who I speak.

No, because the true Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ leads people in to ALL Truth (John 16:13) according to Jesus Who also said God's Word is Truth (John 17:17)

I know not what spirit you are of as I don't fellowship with spirits that are not of the Lord and I follow them not.

Yes, there are counterfeits, tares among the wheat. False prophets, teachers and apostles. But Jesus knew this and warned His first disciples about them. The angels did too but God said to not try and remove them until harvest time.

Yes and God's Word also teaches we should not follow doctrines of demons such as rejecting God putting His Word in written form and it containing all the God wants man to know, along with the demonic claim that God left the Word of God incomplete because God is absent mind and forgets stuff sometime and totally forgot to put important stuff His people should be aware of in His Word

That's like saying if you encounter God alone or in a worship service and get teary eyed it is fake and from the devil.

Yeah, satan loves to use emotions to try and convince people they have connected with God all because they got goose bumps.

You know what the unpardonable sin is?
What you are doing.

Hilarious... only those who are legends in their own mind who reject God's Word going by emotions... claim those going by God's Word are committing the unpardonable sin.

Gas light others all you want pal, that demonic garbage works not on me

You make a great "accuser of the brethren"

When the false brethren reject God's Word... they stand accused of being the false brethren that they are.

The Lord warned about this in His Word... that the false brethren reject because they have been deceived by demons that God's Word is not.... God's Word.

1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

2 Timothy 4:3,4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Hate to diminish your false doctrine.
Jn 18
5 They answered him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I am he.”[a] Judas, who betrayed him, was standing with them. 6 When Jesus said to them, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground.

Ha ha, those were the enemies of Jesus that were falling BACKWARDS!

Thank you for making my point!