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Discussion in 'Christian Debate Forum' started by Phoneman777, Jul 4, 2019.

  1. ScottA

    ScottA Well-Known Member

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    Sin is not what you are witnessing, which conclusion can only come from not reconciling all that is written.

    On the contrary, you witnessing His "strength made perfect in weakness"...is not sin.
     
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    Really? YOU claims you have witnessed me committing sin dozens of times and yet WITHOUT having proven your claim...based on your claim only...you further claim I have committed hypocrisy. LOL

    Prove your claim...you should have no problem quoting me what you claim is a commission of a sin AND the scripture that verifies it IS accounted to me as a sin.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    According to what love means and perfectly means ... Yes.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    There’s nothing wrong with the internet – for those who use it responsibly.
    When researching “facts” – ALWAYS check your sources.

    You may not “hate”the Catholic Church – but you’re an anti-Catholic because you perpetuate LIES about the Catholic Church. After reading your response, however, I believe that this may have occurred inadvertently – through an irresponsible use of internet sources.

    I knew as soon as you brought up Giordan Bruno that this conversation was taking an ugly – and ignorant turn . . .
     
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    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    You've made this claim before and i have nailed you on MANY lies you've told about the Catholic Church alone.

    God only knows what else you've lied about - besides claiming that you don't sin . . .
     
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    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    No, I've witnessed outright lying.
    Don't make excuses for that.
     
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    sometimes the truth can be painful. Bruno was just one of many that was murdered for thinking outside of what the church told him to think. hundreds of thousands burned alive for thinking outside the box. something that neither Jesus nor the Jews before Him ever did.
     
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    It is easy to defend the truth, but I only brought it up because your definition of truth is based in your beliefs. In that context, one who is true in his own eyes, is not necessarily true in the greater context of God. In other words, one could just as easily say that every parent and every child is a liar too...but much of it is not at all counted as lies. That was the error of those who kept the law. History repeats itself in you.

    Meanwhile, making it your job to correct those who love the Lord, by using the scriptures in the manner of keeping the law...does not place you well in the scheme of things before God, but rather with those whom Christ did scorn for being an offence to His little ones. If your righteousness is to exceed theirs...being right is not enough.
     
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    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    And posting this his nonsense and presenting it as the "truth" is what makes you an anti-Catholic.

    Do your homework, dude . . .
     
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    i have done my homework and it makes me ashamed that such horrible things were done in the name of Jesus. apparently you feel nothing, that gives me a cold shiver.
     
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    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    This is anti-Scriptural nonsense.

    IF you or @Taken are true followers of Christ as I am - then it is my DUTY to call you out when I catch you sinning. Not to judge your soul - but to correct and reprove (Matt. 18:15-18, 2 Tim. 3:16). Admonishing the dinner is a spiritual work of mercy (Prov. 27:17 Luke 15:7; 17:3 2 Tim. 4:2).

    Claiming that you no longer sin - EVER - is a lie and therefore, a sin.

    1 John 1:8
    If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
     
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    What should give you a "cold shiver" is violating God's Commandment against bearing false witness.

    That should chill you to the bone . . .
     
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    that makes no sense at all but ok.
    you gotta get off this anti Catholic highhorse. i already pointed out a few errors that non Catholics are primarily guilty of, plus you have guys like Henry the 8th, he ordered the deaths of thousands, had his own wives killed, disowned his kids, etc etc.
     
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    Of course I have made that claim before, because it is TRUE.

    And no you have not "nailed" me...LOL.

    You have quoted a scripture that does not apply to me, thus you proved nothing.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Yet AGAIN you provide a SCRIPTURE that DOES NOT APPLY TO ANYTHING I SAID!

    TRY really hard to PAY ATTENTION...

    I SAID, I SIN NO MORE, meaning I NO LONGER COMMIT SIN!

    1 John 1:8 says, making a claim to BE WITHOUT SIN.

    Do you not KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN....

    NO MORE COMMITTING SIN...and BEING WITHOUT SIN?

    DUH, the ONLY ONE WITHOUT SIN IS thee Lord God Almighty!


    Apparently You do NOT KNOW the Difference, since you have repeated that verse as your whoop, whoop PROOF, but PROVES nothing.

    Glory to God
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    BOL, makes ACCUSATIONS, without PROOF, then adds to his ACCUSATION with his mantra of namecalling. Maybe that is what makes him an acceptable in the catholic church to teach other catholics. :eek:

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
  17. ScottA

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    You are out of context. Or are you now going to take back everything you said quoting John, about more books than could fill the world, in addition to the scriptures?

    You may judge the scriptures with the scriptures, but you may not judge the Spirit with the scriptures. Test, yes, but judge or correct, no.

    It is in the "judge your soul" part that you error. For if we speak by that Spirit who is the author of what is not written but could be, then you have exceeded your duty. Therefore, the scriptures are no test of the Spirit.

    So, call a sin a sin, according to what is written; and we will call truth according to what is written and what is Spiritual. But take heed to the warnings against speaking against the Spirit, for they are written and you have no excuse.

    Again, you are out of context. You are wielding one side of the Sword against the other, without even knowing that you have done so. John spoke to those who would die in their sins, "that generation" ("the dead in Christ"), some of whom had passed from death to life, but most who had not. He was speaking to the house of Israel. That is the wrong context, when it comes to speaking of those who have the Spirit, who have passed from death to life. You are not rightly dividing the word of truth. How is it that you do not know this? (rhetorical)

    It's obvious that you know parts of the material very well. But you greatly exceed the duty that is limited to what you know. Stick to your gift. Oh, and since you are knowledgeable about what is written, you should also know there are those who have been given other gifts that you have no expertise in. Try not to get in the way.
     
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    You know what the word Satan means huh?
     
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    The sex abuse crisis in the Catholic Church has ended. Pretending it is ongoing and nothing has been done about it is a lie from Satan.
     
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    Scripture Reveals;

    The 10 Commandments given the Hebrews/Tribes of Israel.
    (For ALL of the Tribes of Israel WHO continue UNDER THE LAW, the LAW continues to APPLY "TO THEM".

    FOR, any man WHO, trusts to BELIEVE IN Christ Jesus, The 10 Commandment ARE:
    According to JESUS.
    (FOR those REMAINING UNDER THE LAW, given ISRAEL...they REMAIN SUBJECT TO "ALL" of the LAW").

    Matt 22
    [37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
    [38] This is the first and great commandment.
    [39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    [40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

    (WITH thee Lord Gods INDWELLING POWER, and He WITH ME, all He desires is Accomplished IN ME.)


    Scripture Reveals;

    The SABBATH, a DAY of REST.

    For a man IN Christ Jesus;
    Christ Jesus IS the mans Sabbath.
    Jesus' offering of his BODY, his BLOOD, and a man WHO ACCEPTS Jesus' OFFERING, RESTS "IN" Jesus from his LABOR of WORK, as ISRAEL "was" continuously 'working' and "giving animal sacrifices" ; to show themselves approved and worthy of Salvation.
    A man "IN" Christ Jesus has ACCEPTED, Jesus' offering "OF" His REST.

    Jesus has entered INTO HIS REST, and a man "WITH" Jesus, has also entered INTO HIS REST WITH HIM.


    Heb 4
    [9] There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
    [10] For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

    Jesus IS MY SABBATH, (every day) MY REST IS IN HIM, as HE RESTS.

    God Bless,
    Taken
     
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