@ David in NJ Thanks for your reply too
The gospels and apostles do not talk about the Revelation. They were dead (all except John) before the Revelation was given. Where they do prophesy, they use the same sort of apocalyptic language used frequently in the Bible, as does the Revelation. But the gospels and epistles do not talk about the horses and the riders on them, do they?
If you believe that Matthew 24 or the Olivet Discourse ties in with the seals, then consider the fact that Matthew 24:14 says, "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
It's not in sequence in the Olivet Discourse, because verse 9 of Matthew 24 says, "Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and all of you shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake." They can't be hated of all nations before the gospel has been preached in all nations.
So if the Olivet Discourse ties in with the Revelation's seals, bear in mind what the Olivet Discourse has to say regarding the gospel being preached in all the world as a witness to all nations, and ask yourself where that fits into the seals. (because you can't leave it out).
Very good points.
for me, i see this:
The Horses indicate SPEED of Travel Worldwide. These are world wide events that take place with great urgency, not over prolonged period of time.
In contrast the spreading of the Gospel is taking place over a 2,000+ year span.
The Two Witnesses are the same as our Lord described about Himself and the Father: see John chs 5, 6, 10
If I testify about Myself, My testimony is not valid. There is another who testifies about Me, and I know that His testimony about Me is valid.
It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from Him comes to Me.
I already told you,” Jesus replied, “but you did not believe. The works I do in My Father’s name testify on My behalf.
Now that our Lord and Savior has Risen and ascended back to the Father,
Who are the two witnesses now on earth???
The seals are describing events taking place in the world, and the riders of the horses represent either the powers behind those events, or the cause of the events being described in the seal. The rider on the white horse represents either the two witnesses or the faithful church (or both) which will be prophesying during the final 3.5 years of this Age. The rider on the red horse is going out to take peace from the earth. The power behind him is the dragon. The second horseman is the antichrist. Not the first.