The TRUE Meaning Of The Little Horn Prophecy For the End

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Davy

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Read the text again.

The burying of Gog's army is not for seven years, but 7 months.

The burning of the weapons of Gog's army, instead of wood from the forests, is for 7 years.

Yeah, that's right, burying their weapons for 7 years, and their bodies for 7 months.
 

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Yeah, that's right, burying their weapons for 7 years, and their bodies for 7 months.
No, not burying their weapons for 7 years. Israel will burn their weapons for 7 years, instead of using wood.

9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD.
 

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No, not burying their weapons for 7 years. Israel will burn their weapons for 7 years, instead of using wood.
Right. Seeing if you are on your toes. Now go back and check out the rest of what I wrote for which you have said nothing.
 

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Davy, any fool who reads 2 Thessalonians 2 would write as Hippolytus wrote about an evil dude sitting in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem.

This by itself does not constitute the warped lies of "Jesuit Futurism" - understand? More on this:

Before I show you from his own words Hippolytus was a Historicist, I'll show you what Jesuit Futurism teaches and that everything in red was unknown to him and everyone else prior to the 16th century:
MAKING ME LAUGH!!!

Futurism, Preterism, Historicism, all doctrines of men from later seminary theology, later than the days of Hippolytus (2nd century A.D.). And anyone can try ... to say such and such early Church father was a Preterist, Historicist, or like you with your false Jesuit origin for the Pre-trib Rapture theory, which actually didn't get pushed until the 1830's in Britain.

Thus all you are doing is going around in CIRCLES arguing over MEN'S SEMINARY CATEGORIES, instead of approaching the ACTUAL Word of God as written. That means you are just playing games! And that is exactly what the blind Pharisees did in Jesus's day.


>Earth's history will conclude with "7 years (or 3 1/2 years) of tribulation"
No it won't. God is not going to literally destroy this earth. The Zechariah 14 chapter of what happens on this earth after... Christ's future return is Bible proof of this.

Nor will the coming time of "great tribulation" last for 3.5 years, because Jesus said He shorted it for the sake of His elect. You can find what He shortened it to written in Rev.9.

>At the beginning of Earth's final 7 years (or 3 1/2 years) an evil "antichrist" man will arise
The Antichrist is timed to appear on the 6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe period (Rev.9).

>A one man "antichrist" will arise and sit in a rebuilt Jerusalem temple
Yeah, a singular false-Christ is what Jesus showed in Matt.24:23-26. Paul showed it will be one called the "man of sin" who will sit in the "temple of God" (Jewish stone temple for the end), and claim to be God and over all that is called God, or that is worshiped. It will be Satan himself, in person, in our earthly dimension, working miracles to deceive the whole world.

>the Jewish sacrificial system will be set up again
Yes, but the Antichrist, or "vile person" of Dan.11 will be against the 'covenant'.

And for the Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem to be able to start up old covenant worship again, a 3rd stone temple is required there, which they already have the materials to build it today, including temple artifacts in temple worship. That means a standing stone temple with animal sacrifices going on at the end.

>Antichrist will broker a 7 year "covenant of peace" between the Arabs and Jews
Dan.11 calls it a "league" (KJV) that the "vile person" will make with a small people (small group of leaders in Jerusalem). That may point to that, or it may point just to establishing of the old covenant worship for the Jews.

>He will break the covenant in the middle of it and suspend Jewish sacrifices
He will end old covenant worship and the daily sacrifices, and INSTEAD will place the "abomination of desolation" at the new temple. That will be about the "image of the beast" worship at the end, an IDOL. So Armageddon is NOT YET at that point.

Then when Antichrist places that abomination IDOL in false worship, that begins the time of "great tribulation", which will be "five months". That is when Jesus told those of His servants in Jerusalem to flee to the mountains, and for those His in the countries to not enter in.

>Armageddon will break out because of this broken covenant
No, the battle of Armageddon happens ONLY on the day of Jesus' future return, on the "day of the Lord". That is the final 7th Vial timing (also 7th Trumpet).


You got that, Davy? See how ridiculous it is for you to claim Hippolytus was Futurist?
I NEVER claimed that Hippolytus was a Futurist. That was YOUR belief, and is wrong at that! You even falsely tried to claim that I'm a Futurist!

Keeping listening to those men at those seminaries that have confused you with their category types and such, instead of simply staying with God's Word as written! Stay in confusion if you want.

OK, now for proof that Hippolytus was Historicist:

On Christ and Antichrist:
“Tell me, blessed John, apostle and disciple of the Lord, what didst thou see and hear concerning Babylon? Arise and speak, for it (Pagan Rome) sent thee also into banishment”.
Got that? Hippolytus knew "Babylon" was "Pagan Rome" - not some "last 7 years" Antichrist!
The golden head of the image,” he says, “is identical with the lioness, by which the Babylonians were represented ; the shoulders and the arms of silver are the same with the bear, by which the Persians and Medes are meant ; the belly and thighs of brass are the leopard, by which the Greeks who ruled from Alexander onwards are intended ; the legs of iron are the dreadful and terrible beast, by which the Romans who hold the empire now are meant ; the toes of clay and iron are the ten horns which are to be;the one other little horn springing up in their midst is the antichrist ; the stone that smites the image and breaks it in pieces, and that filled the whole earth, is Christ, who comes from heaven and brings judgment on the world.”
Hippolytus followed the prophetic template of Daniel 2!
A striking illustration of this is the interpretation by Irenaus and Hippolytus of the mysterious number 666, the number of the revived head of the beast, or antichrist. Irenaus gives as its interpretation the word Latinos. He says : ” Latinos is the number 666, and it is a very probable (solution), this being the name of the last kingdom, for the LATINS are they who at present bear rule”. Hippolytus gives the same solution in his treatise on ” Christ and Antichrist.”
Got that, Davy? Both Irenaus and Hippolytus say the antichrist would be Roman - NOT JEWISH!
NO! You are ADDING to their words. I'm not that dumb, you can't try that ignorant ploy on me. YOU EVEN DENIED THE VERY QUOTE FROM HIPPOLYTUS THAT I POSTED, which showed what???

Hippolytus said:
6. Now, as our Lord Jesus Christ, who is also God, was prophesied of under the figure of a lion, on account of His royalty and glory, in the same way have the Scriptures also aforetime spoken of Antichrist as a lion, on account of his tyranny and violence. For the deceiver seeks to liken himself in all things to the Son of God. Christ is a lion, so Antichrist is also a lion; Christ is a king, so Antichrist is also a king. The Saviour was manifested as a lamb; so he too, in like manner, will appear as a lamb, though within he is a wolf. The Saviour came into the World in the circumcision, and he will come in the same manner. The Lord sent apostles among all the nations, and he in like manner will send false apostles. The Saviour gathered together the sheep that were scattered abroad, and he in like manner will bring together a people that is scattered abroad. The Lord gave a seal to those who believed on Him, and he will give one like manner. The Saviour appeared in the form of man, and he too will come in the form of a man. The Saviour raised up and showed His holy flesh like a temple, and he will raise a temple of stone in Jerusalem. And his seductive arts we shall exhibit in what follows. But for the present let us turn to the question in hand.

Did you not SEE that above what Hippolytus said about that Antichrist will come from the CIRCUMCISION like Jesus did?? How could Hippolytus mean a ROMAN as the Antichrist?? It's obvious YOU are telling LIES against what Hippolytus said!
 
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Yeah, a singular false-Christ is what Jesus showed in Matt.24:23-26. Paul showed it will be one called the "man of sin" who will sit in the "temple of God" (Jewish stone temple for the end), and claim to be God and over all that is called God, or that is worshiped. It will be Satan himself, in person, in our earthly dimension, working miracles to deceive the whole world.
Davy, the revealed man of sin is the Antichrist person at one particular stage of his career ( I say career for the lack of a better word that I can think of right now).

He starts as the little horn person.
Then becomes the prince who shall come (following the Gog/Magog event)
Then becomes the Antichrist (perceived messiah by the Jews)
Then becomes the revealed man of sin (end of his Antichrist perceived messiah stage)
Then becomes the beast-king, his final stage.

Satan will not be the revealed man of sin. That person will have a documented record of birth, who his parents were, his upbringing, his early life, until he enters the first stage of his bible referred to career, as the little horn person.

Right now, we each are speculating trying to make an effort to figure out who that person is. It is going to be more apparent when the ten king (leader) group, panel, or coalition gels into a recognizable form - which that person becomes the leader of that group.
 

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Davy, the revealed man of sin is the Antichrist person at one particular stage of his career ( I say career for the lack of a better word that I can think of right now).
The coming Antichrist for the end of this world has many titles:
"man of sin", "another beast", the "dragon", the "beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit", "that old serpent", "Satan", the "little horn", the "vile person", the "another Jesus", etc.

Those who have yet to understand all those Scriptures are pointing to a singular entity, the 'devil' himself, is why those also, when that false one does appear in Jerusalem at the end, will "wonder" at that false one, because they don't know who he is...

Rev 17:8
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
KJV

Is your name written in the "book of life from the foundation of the world"? If so, then you are supposed to already know who that coming false one will be. And it ain't no pope, nor any flesh antichrist.
 
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But there's a problem with that above, because it mentions that it had "ten horns". The ancient pagan Roman empire did NOT have "ten horns".
Protestant Historicism correctly interprets the Ten Toes of Daniel 2 which rise after the fall of the Roman legs of iron to be the same Ten Horns of the Fourth Beast in Daniel 7 which depict the Ten Barbarian nations which arose out of the ashes of the fallen Roman Empire:

Anglo Saxons = English
Francs = French
Visigoths = Spanish
Allemmani = Germans
Suevi = Portuguese
Lombards = Italians
Burgundians = Swiss
Heruli = extinct
Vandals = extinct
Ostrogoths = extinct

...with the Little Horn papacy arising among the Ten and uprooting Three - the Vandals, Heruli, and Ostrogoths - which went on to fulfill every single identifying mark of prophecy concerning the Little Horn.

All other interpretations can be shown to be false, requiring "gaps" and "rubber bands" and "revisionist history" to work, upon which Protestant Historicism never relies.
 
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It's important to keep the 'flow'... of what Daniel wrote about the "little horn" in Daniel 7. Some like to pic-n-choose verses to cover while leaving others out which affect the interpretation...

Dan 7:2-9
2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.

3 And
four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

4 The
first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

That above 1st beast was the Babylon empire, under Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon.

5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

The Medo-Persia empire came next, having conquered Babylon.

6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

The 3rd one is represented by Alexander's Grecia, which conquered the Medo-Persia empire.

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

That represented the pagan Roman empire of history. But there's a problem with that above, because it mentions that it had "ten horns". The ancient pagan Roman empire did NOT have "ten horns". And this is following the order of the pieces that make up the beast statue that Nebuchadnezzar was shown in his dream, per Daniel 2. So let's go back to Daniel 2 and see what's up.

Daniel speaking to Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon...

Dan 2:31-35
31 Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.

32 This image's
head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,

The beast image that Neb saw in his dream had:
1 -- "head was of fine gold" = Babylon empire
2 -- "his breast and arms of silver" = Medo-Persia empire
3 -- "his belly and his thighs of brass" = Grecia empire

33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.

4 -- "His legs of iron" = pagan Roman empire
5 -- "his feet of iron and part of clay" = ????

Do you not see a problem here brethren, like Daniel forgot to reveal something missing there? Daniel 7:3 mentioned FOUR GREAT BEASTS. But here with Neb's dream, it reveals there are FIVE GREAT BEASTS in all. That because there are FIVE PIECES to the beast statue as written, not FOUR. So what's going on? What are many missing here about the "little horn" and only FOUR great beasts mentioned, when Daniel 2 is actually pointing to FIVE great beasts?

The next Daniel 2:34 verse reveals that FIVE BEASTS are present with the beast image statue... AND... even WHEN the final beast is to MANIFEST...

Dan.2:34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.


Rev.17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for He is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with Him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
KJV
The ten horns came up in the kingdom before the little horn.The little horn came up in 1948 and subdued the three horns in 1967.

Talk about being humbled.They were humiliated.
Here is a nice little history lesson concerning the little horn who was diverse from his fellows.

 

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I tried that 15 years ago and many times since for a English translation of what Ribera in his words wrote (your claim, I have heard 20 years ago, and countless times), but there are not any.
In sacram beati Ioannis Apostoli and Evangelistae Apocalypsin Commentarii

by Francisci Riberae
Presbyteri Societatis Iesu (Jesuit)

Antuerpiae, Ex Officina Martini Nutii,
ad insigne duarum Ciconiarum, MDCII (1602)

Revelation 11

XI. Argumentum Capitis XI. - 336
Iubetur Apostolus calamo metiri templum, & partem signare, quae Gentibus tradetur calcanda duobus & quadraginta mensibus. Duo Prophetae promittuntur, qui homines doceant, & pro veritate ab Antichristo occidentur, & post tres dies & dimidium resuscitati in coelum rapientur. Terraemotus continuo magnus fiet, & plurimi morientur. Septimus angelus tuba canit, & seniores gratias Deo agunt, quod iam supplicia implorum & praemia sanctorum adueniant.

The theme of Chapter XI.336 The apostle is ordered to measure out the temple with a pen, and to seal the portion which he will be handed over to the Gentiles to be trampled over for two and forty months. Two prophets are promised to teach men, and for the truth they shall be slain by Antichrist, and after three days and a half risen from the dead, shall be taken up to heaven. An earthquake will take place immediately, and many will die. The seventh angel sings the trumpet, and the elders give thanks to God, because the punishments of the impious and the rewards of the saints are already coming.
 
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The ten horns came up in the kingdom before the little horn.The little horn came up in 1948 and subdued the three horns in 1967.

Not so.

Revelation 17:12-14 reveals the "ten horns" ONLY receive power "one hour" with the beast (i.e., "little horn" beast king).

That means one cannot simply try to assign the "ten kings" ("ten horns") back to anytime in past history, because those "ten kings" only come to power at the end when the Antichrist/false-Messiah comes to power. The "little horn" that comes up among those ten horns will be represented by that future coming false-Messiah in Jerusalem in our near future (i.e., at the last generation). Thusly, that time for the reign of the "ten kings" with the beast is not yet today.

And the following Scripture in Daniel 2 also verifies this fact that the manifesting of the "ten kings" is still future, and is only at the very end of this world...

Dan 2:34-35
34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
35 Then was the
iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
KJV

Dan 2:44-45
44 And
in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
KJV


The above Scripture reveals those ten kings will manifest at the very end when the stone (Jesus Christ) smites the final beast upon its feet of ten toes, and Christ's Kingdom comes with Jesus' 2nd coming. So that and Rev.17 both serve as Bible witnesses when the "ten kings" are to manifest.
 
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Not so.

Revelation 17:12-14 reveals the "ten horns" ONLY receive power "one hour" with the beast (i.e., "little horn" beast king).

That means one cannot simply try to assign the "ten kings" ("ten horns") back to anytime in past history, because those "ten kings" only come to power at the end when the Antichrist/false-Messiah comes to power. The "little horn" that comes up among those ten horns will be represented by that future coming false-Messiah in Jerusalem in our near future (i.e., at the last generation). Thusly, that time for the reign of the "ten kings" with the beast is not yet today.

And the following Scripture in Daniel 2 also verifies this fact that the manifesting of the "ten kings" is still future, and is only at the very end of this world...

Dan 2:34-35
34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
35 Then was the
iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
KJV

Dan 2:44-45
44 And
in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
KJV


The above Scripture reveals those ten kings will manifest at the very end when the stone (Jesus Christ) smites the final beast upon its feet of ten toes, and Christ's Kingdom comes with Jesus' 2nd coming. So that and Rev.17 both serve as Bible witnesses when the "ten kings" are to manifest.
Davy, do you think there might be another interpretation that considers the “Stone”, the Messiah struck the feet of the image but did not destroy the entire image?

Could 2:34 represent His first coming while 2:35 represents His second coming?

This is what I have found in my study of Daniel.
Chapter 2 is God’s “blueprint” or structure of the 4 and only 4 kingdoms that will be brought out of the sea (meaning He will determine what kingdoms will be found within His plan of salvation).

In Chapter 2, God gives us the 4 kingdoms, the external and internal borders for each kingdom and the beginning and ending of the image. Within these “dream sequence” of verses, He gives us all the restrictions, guidelines, actors, etc., that will take part within His plan of salvation. There is ONLY one actor that will be found within His Chapter 2 “blueprint” that is not identified or mentioned in Chapter 2 - that being the “little horn” of Daniel 7/8.

Look forward to your thoughts…
 

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Not so.

Revelation 17:12-14 reveals the "ten horns" ONLY receive power "one hour" with the beast (i.e., "little horn" beast king).

That means one cannot simply try to assign the "ten kings" ("ten horns") back to anytime in past history, because those "ten kings" only come to power at the end when the Antichrist/false-Messiah comes to power. The "little horn" that comes up among those ten horns will be represented by that future coming false-Messiah in Jerusalem in our near future (i.e., at the last generation). Thusly, that time for the reign of the "ten kings" with the beast is not yet today.

And the following Scripture in Daniel 2 also verifies this fact that the manifesting of the "ten kings" is still future, and is only at the very end of this world...

Dan 2:34-35
34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
35 Then was the
iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
KJV

Dan 2:44-45
44 And
in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
KJV


The above Scripture reveals those ten kings will manifest at the very end when the stone (Jesus Christ) smites the final beast upon its feet of ten toes, and Christ's Kingdom comes with Jesus' 2nd coming. So that and Rev.17 both serve as Bible witnesses when the "ten kings" are to manifest.
False,the ten horn came up before the little horn which has come up not so long ago.

The little horn had been fulfilling the things written about him and had mentioned giving everyone in his kingdom implantable microchips. The next part of the prophecy I believe to take place is the host that is given to the little horn .I believe the host will be given to him next year.
 

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Just finished reading the news.
I see his kingdom.is full of protests again.About as bad as it was last year when he was attempting to change laws.
 

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Protestant Historicism correctly interprets the Ten Toes of Daniel 2 which rise after the fall of the Roman legs of iron to be the same Ten Horns of the Fourth Beast in Daniel 7 which depict the Ten Barbarian nations which arose out of the ashes of the fallen Roman Empire:

Anglo Saxons = English
Francs = French
Visigoths = Spanish
Allemmani = Germans
Suevi = Portuguese
Lombards = Italians
Burgundians = Swiss
Heruli = extinct
Vandals = extinct
Ostrogoths = extinct

...with the Little Horn papacy arising among the Ten and uprooting Three - the Vandals, Heruli, and Ostrogoths - which went on to fulfill every single identifying mark of prophecy concerning the Little Horn.

All other interpretations can be shown to be false, requiring "gaps" and "rubber bands" and "revisionist history" to work, upon which Protestant Historicism never relies.
Brainwashed and deceived. Those who ignore, gloss over, pretend they didn't see, or are so committed to lies and Jesuit confusion they cannot see the glaring obvious truth of the above post even though it slaps them in the face. They cannot understand that every attempt to avoid historic truth, effectively hides the true Antichrist from sight.
 
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Brainwashed and deceived. Those who ignore, gloss over, pretend they didn't see, or are so committed to lies and Jesuit confusion they cannot see the glaring obvious truth of the above post even though it slaps them in the face. They cannot understand that every attempt to avoid historic truth, effectively hides the true Antichrist from sight.
Well,this we know.
The saints who are in the little horns kingdom will be given the everlasting kingdom of God and they shall reign with Christ.
That is truly a blessing.

Daniel 7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
 

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Look here.
The saints who are persecuted in the little horns kingdom reign with Christ in the kingdom of heaven.


They are so blessed.

Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

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Well,this we know.
The saints who are in the little horns kingdom will be given the everlasting kingdom of God and they shall reign with Christ.
That is truly a blessing.

Daniel 7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
I think I get what you are saying, that despite the earthly extent and influence and power of the little horn, the saints will in the final analysis, come out victorious through the blood of the Lamb.
We are not in the little horns kingdom. We are already citizens of the kingdom of God. We are not dual citizens. We are called to come out of Babylon. The urgency of that message demands we accurately identify who the little horn is... who Babylon is... who the antichrist is. So far, I see little evidence that Christianity in general has any idea who it is. Satan has then looking in the distant past, or to some unknown future time, but ignore our are blind to what is going on in their own back yard and in their own churches.
 

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I think I get what you are saying, that despite the earthly extent and influence and power of the little horn, the saints will in the final analysis, come out victorious through the blood of the Lamb.
We are not in the little horns kingdom. We are already citizens of the kingdom of God. We are not dual citizens. We are called to come out of Babylon. The urgency of that message demands we accurately identify who the little horn is... who Babylon is... who the antichrist is. So far, I see little evidence that Christianity in general has any idea who it is. Satan has then looking in the distant past, or to some unknown future time, but ignore our are blind to what is going on in their own back yard and in their own churches.
The little horn is a government with a little country .
It shares a kingdom with ten other kings who are different than itself as Daniel wrote.He also appears more stout than his fellows as Daniel wrote.

The saints in that little country are persecuted for 42 months.The persecution begins after a second beast arrives in his kingdom .The second beast will make an image of the first beast(the little horn)and will give everyone in that little country a mark in their right hand or forehead.

The saints are killed for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God .Then the kingdom of the beast will be given to the saints of God and they shall reign with Christ.

I remember reading a couple of years ago the little horn was talking about giving everyone in his country implantable microchips .He mentioned at the time he would have to enact legislation before he can.Last year he was attempting to change laws. .


Daniel 7
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


I believe the second beast will come to his aid next year.Then you all might know what I do.
 

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I think I get what you are saying, that despite the earthly extent and influence and power of the little horn, the saints will in the final analysis, come out victorious through the blood of the Lamb.
We are not in the little horns kingdom. We are already citizens of the kingdom of God. We are not dual citizens. We are called to come out of Babylon. The urgency of that message demands we accurately identify who the little horn is... who Babylon is... who the antichrist is. So far, I see little evidence that Christianity in general has any idea who it is. Satan has then looking in the distant past, or to some unknown future time, but ignore our are blind to what is going on in their own back yard and in their own churches.
Hope you do not mind if I jump in here... Unless I am mistaken, most interpreters agree the 4th kingdom beast began as pagan Rome. This was the kingdom that came after Greece and was in power at the end of the 70 weeks of years prophecy and when the Messiah arrived on the first day of the last week of the prophecy. (I understand that many have thrown the last week of this prophecy some 2000 years into the future, but that is, to me, a significant misinterpretation as Daniel and specifically, the 70 weeks of years prophecy speaks to the complete restoration of Daniel's people and his city. It would conclude with the arrival of the Messiah.

Thus, the 4th beast was in power at the time of the crucifixion and certainly everything was completly destroyed in 70 AD by Titus and the Roman army. But after the cross, His church would begin to be preached throughout the Roman Empire and it would grow exponentially despite many efforts to murder Christians. During this growth period, the church would gain significant power, yet it would still be subordinate the Imperial Rome. But around 476 AD, pagan Rome would cease to be: it would be slain and its body destroyec (7:11). The Christian church would continue to grow in power while Imperial Rome declined. Around 500 - 540 AD, the Christian church would come to full power over both the religious and secular. And it would be the bishop of Rome who would succeed to the top of the 4th kingdom beast by winning out over the other 3 major Christian centers in the empire - Antioch, Alexandria, and Jerusalem. This bishop of the Roman centered church would become known as the papacy and reign over papal Rome until the end times.

It is this power, the papacy, who defines the "little horn" of Daniel 7, 8 and 11. He is the one who will speak pompous things agains HIs people, His saints, and even God Himself. He will claim to be God on earth and have the same power as God to forgive sins, change His laws and commands, all the characteristics mentioned in Daniel 7 and 8. He is the one who will be "exceedingly great," and is also identified in Chapter 11 as the "vile" one.

This is the one who has preached a very different gospel for over 1500 years and will be destroyed without human hands. Despite all that is written in Daniel, most look for a coming"anti-christ" figure who will arrive some 2000 years after the cross. But there is nothing in Daniel or Revelation that states a "anti-christ" supernatural boogeyman will arrive on the earth. There are only 4 times in the NT that the word "anti-christ" is found and I believe they are all in Peter and speak of the "spirit of an anti-christ." Meaning, anyone doing or preaching a different gospel or against the Messiah. There is NO actual anti-Christ figure... The last week of the 70 weeks of years prophecy was fulfilled. It was the RCC (Jesuits) in the 16th century (Reformation period) that devised the 7 year tribulation theory or gap theory. They essentially took much of 9:27 and attributed the "he" at the beginning of the verse to this "anti-christ" figure and then proceeded to create a scenerio where this "he" would enter into a 7 year agreement...... all of this a false teaching and a false gospel.

The point of all of this is this "little horn" who has definitely been identified quite well in the Book of Daniel has done a masterful job of not being recognized. The little horn had indeed come out of the 4th beast kingdom as prophesied, and has corrupted the Word of God and appropriated His church for the past 1500 years. This is not an anti-Catholic rant... or hateful set of comments. For the billions of people who follow a different gospel, an earthly god, a different set of commandments, idols, and so many more affronts to the Word of God have been misled. If ANY other individual on the earth during the past 1500 years EVER declared they were equal to God and spoke as God, and could forgive sins, and so on, and so on, would YOU worship that individual? Would you believe that is someone you want to follow and trust for your eternal salvation? Well, that is indeed what 1.4 billion Catholics have done... they have placed their faith in this individual. So, it is not a matter of looking for some supernatural boogeyman who has the power of satan over people or will destrroy with some kind of supernatural powers,.... that will never happen. Instead, as predicted in Daniel, he will be sly, a deceiver, not a military man, but a vile one who lies, speaks a different gospel, a different way of salvation (only through the Catholic church can one be saved).
 
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Hope you do not mind if I jump in here... Unless I am mistaken, most interpreters agree the 4th kingdom beast began as pagan Rome. This was the kingdom that came after Greece and was in power at the end of the 70 weeks of years prophecy and when the Messiah arrived on the first day of the last week of the prophecy. (I understand that many have thrown the last week of this prophecy some 2000 years into the future, but that is, to me, a significant misinterpretation as Daniel and specifically, the 70 weeks of years prophecy speaks to the complete restoration of Daniel's people and his city. It would conclude with the arrival of the Messiah.

Thus, the 4th beast was in power at the time of the crucifixion and certainly everything was completly destroyed in 70 AD by Titus and the Roman army. But after the cross, His church would begin to be preached throughout the Roman Empire and it would grow exponentially despite many efforts to murder Christians. During this growth period, the church would gain significant power, yet it would still be subordinate the Imperial Rome. But around 476 AD, pagan Rome would cease to be: it would be slain and its body destroyec (7:11). The Christian church would continue to grow in power while Imperial Rome declined. Around 500 - 540 AD, the Christian church would come to full power over both the religious and secular. And it would be the bishop of Rome who would succeed to the top of the 4th kingdom beast by winning out over the other 3 major Christian centers in the empire - Antioch, Alexandria, and Jerusalem. This bishop of the Roman centered church would become known as the papacy and reign over papal Rome until the end times.

It is this power, the papacy, who defines the "little horn" of Daniel 7, 8 and 11. He is the one who will speak pompous things agains HIs people, His saints, and even God Himself. He will claim to be God on earth and have the same power as God to forgive sins, change His laws and commands, all the characteristics mentioned in Daniel 7 and 8. He is the one who will be "exceedingly great," and is also identified in Chapter 11 as the "vile" one.

This is the one who has preached a very different gospel for over 1500 years and will be destroyed without human hands. Despite all that is written in Daniel, most look for a coming"anti-christ" figure who will arrive some 2000 years after the cross. But there is nothing in Daniel or Revelation that states a "anti-christ" supernatural boogeyman will arrive on the earth. There are only 4 times in the NT that the word "anti-christ" is found and I believe they are all in Peter and speak of the "spirit of an anti-christ." Meaning, anyone doing or preaching a different gospel or against the Messiah. There is NO actual anti-Christ figure... The last week of the 70 weeks of years prophecy was fulfilled. It was the RCC (Jesuits) in the 16th century (Reformation period) that devised the 7 year tribulation theory or gap theory. They essentially took much of 9:27 and attributed the "he" at the beginning of the verse to this "anti-christ" figure and then proceeded to create a scenerio where this "he" would enter into a 7 year agreement...... all of this a false teaching and a false gospel.

The point of all of this is this "little horn" who has definitely been identified quite well in the Book of Daniel has done a masterful job of not being recognized. The little horn had indeed come out of the 4th beast kingdom as prophesied, and has corrupted the Word of God and appropriated His church for the past 1500 years. This is not an anti-Catholic rant... or hateful set of comments. For the billions of people who follow a different gospel, an earthly god, a different set of commandments, idols, and so many more affronts to the Word of God have been misled. If ANY other individual on the earth during the past 1500 years EVER declared they were equal to God and spoke as God, and could forgive sins, and so on, and so on, would YOU worship that individual? Would you believe that is someone you want to follow and trust for your eternal salvation? Well, that is indeed what 1.4 billion Catholics have done... they have placed their faith in this individual. So, it is not a matter of looking for some supernatural boogeyman who has the power of satan over people or will destrroy with some kind of supernatural powers,.... that will never happen. Instead, as predicted in Daniel, he will be sly, a deceiver, not a military man, but a vile one who lies, speaks a different gospel, a different way of salvation (only through the Catholic church can one be saved).
The Han dynasty came before Rome.
Now if you say the Han dynasty is the wrong part of the world then I could say the same thing about Rome,Greece and Persia.