This is : The Revelation you must maintain.

[Behold]

Reader,

When trying to come to the "unity of the faith" as the "mind of Christ" so that you are "walking in the Spirit"... = its just one simple thing..., and it has nothing to so with self effort, or works, or behavior.. or commandment keeping or water baptism.

1.) How does God see us, as the "born again".

A.) = He ONLY sees us as the born again.,...is the revelation.

Why?

Because CHRISTianity is SPIRITUAL, and "God is A Spirit".

We are a born again Spirit, having become so, "in Christ", as "One with God".
This is "Redemption". This is to become "born..... again"., and this has nothing to do with water baptism or church membership.
Being BORN AGAIN...... is our Heavenly "sonship" eternal Identification. This is the "Son/Daughter" of God........Its the BORN AGAIN us.

We are the Born again.....and this is all SPIRITUAL.........We are a Born again SPIRIT, who lives in a dying body that is going to be replaced by a heavenly body that is designed to contain the BORN AGAIN Spirit who is the CHRISTian.
See that?
So, this means that the REAL US, is not our body which is going to be replaced...., and its not our MIND, as our mind has to be RENEWED so that it understands who we have become= as the Born again Spirit, that is the REAL Son/Daughter of God.

See that?

Its simple, but you have to get the revelation of who you have become "in Christ", as this is the BORN AGAIN Spirit.. This is the CHILD of God.

So, When you begin to see yourself as this, and only this, then verses like... "seated in heavenly places in Christ" will make perfect sense to you.

Or, when you read a verse that says...>"in the world but not of the world"...then you'll automatically think...>"well of course, as the real CHRISTian is already """"one with God" and "seated in Heavenly places"""", right now, "in Christ".

And You'll read this verse..

'"""As CHRIST IS...... so are the born again...... IN.... THIS ... WORLD""""........ and you'll understand it.

You'll SEE it... and that is by revelation knowledge.

And all of this revelation, is simply God's perspective of who you are, as a born again spirit, existing right now and forever, as "in Christ" and "one with God".

And one more...
When you get this revelation of who you are, as a born again Spirit, who already exists as "one with God".."in Christ".... then you have "worked out your SALVATION".
As to work it out, is to understand who you are become in it..... and to exist there, in the renewed mind.

And that is how you '"""put on the Helmet of Salvation""".

Its by gaining the REVELATION of who you have become as "one with God" 'in Christ".... "made righteous".

 

[gpresdo]

Reader,

When trying to come to the "unity of the faith" as the "mind of Christ" so that you are "walking in the Spirit"... = its just one simple thing..., and it has nothing to so with self effort, or works, or behavior.. or commandment keeping or water baptism.

1.) How does God see us, as the "born again".

A.) = He ONLY sees us as the born again.,...is the revelation.

Why?

Because CHRISTianity is SPIRITUAL, and "God is A Spirit".

We are a born again Spirit, having become so, "in Christ", as "One with God".
This is "Redemption". This is to become "born..... again"., and this has nothing to do with water baptism or church membership.
Being BORN AGAIN...... is our Heavenly "sonship" eternal Identification. This is the "Son/Daughter" of God........Its the BORN AGAIN us.

We are the Born again.....and this is all SPIRITUAL.........We are a Born again SPIRIT, who lives in a dying body that is going to be replaced by a heavenly body that is designed to contain the BORN AGAIN Spirit who is the CHRISTian.
See that?
So, this means that the REAL US, is not our body which is going to be replaced...., and its not our MIND, as our mind has to be RENEWED so that it understands who we have become= as the Born again Spirit, that is the REAL Son/Daughter of God.

See that?

Its simple, but you have to get the revelation of who you have become "in Christ", as this is the BORN AGAIN Spirit.. This is the CHILD of God.

So, When you begin to see yourself as this, and only this, then verses like... "seated in heavenly places in Christ" will make perfect sense to you.

Or, when you read a verse that says...>"in the world but not of the world"...then you'll automatically think...>"well of course, as the real CHRISTian is already """"one with God" and "seated in Heavenly places"""", right now, "in Christ".

And You'll read this verse..

'"""As CHRIST IS...... so are the born again...... IN.... THIS ... WORLD""""........ and you'll understand it.

You'll SEE it... and that is by revelation knowledge.

And all of this revelation, is simply God's perspective of who you are, as a born again spirit, existing right now and forever, as "in Christ" and "one with God".

And one more...
When you get this revelation of who you are, as a born again Spirit, who already exists as "one with God".."in Christ".... then you have "worked out your SALVATION".
As to work it out, is to understand who you are become in it..... and to exist there, in the renewed mind.

And that is how you '"""put on the Helmet of Salvation""".

Its by gaining the REVELATION of who you have become as "one with God" 'in Christ".... "made righteous".

One is not ...born again...until that person is baptized. See Acts 2;38 and several others. I can find and list should you need them.

 

[Behold]

One is not ...born again...until that person is baptized. See Acts 2;38 and several others. I can find and list should you need them.

I was born again.... 11 yrs = before i was water baptized.
That a fact you can deny, but you'll then be wrong again, gpresdo.

There is another member here..."Pearl".. she was also water baptized long after she was born again.

Have you heard of Baptists, Methodists, and most "mainline denominations" that are not associated with "water cult" theology?
All of these members, who are born again, were water baptized after they were saved....
You can read the account of the Eunuch and Philip, in Acts 8, and find out that the Eunuch was water baptized, after he BELIEVED....
So, he was born again, and then, Philip allowed him to be water baptized.

The dying Thief on the Cross, is with Jesus right now, and he was NEVER water baptized.

Paul said this.....>"Christ sent me not to water baptize"..

So, "water cults" like the Jehovah's Witness and the "Cult of Mary", teach that water "washes away your sin".
This is one of Satan's finest lies.
As if that was True, then The CROSS where Jesus shed His Blood is not necessary...

Think on that.

 

[Behold]

See Acts 2;38

Here is something for you to figure out.

In Acts 2:38, Peter was never water baptized.

Go and read it.
Find something out that isn't a cult's lie that you've been led to believe about water., gpresdo.

 

[gpresdo]

No...no diversion. (a leftist act)
where is scripture that says the thief was not baptized?

 

[Behold]

No...no diversion. (a leftist act)
where is scripture that says the thief was not baptized?

Where is common sense in your question..... gpresdo ?

Listen.

He was on the CROSS, nailed to it.
He then believed on Jesus, who was nailed to HIS CROSS, next to the Thief.
They , the Romans, then broke the dying Thief's legs., so that he could not do anything except hang by his arms and CHOKE to death, as that is what happens. That is what happened to him., and the other one.

So, when did they water baptize Him, gpresdo?

Did they use a water hose, connected to a fire Truck?


C'mon.. you have to think and not just repeat what you have been told to say.

 

[gpresdo]

Where is common sense in your question..... gpresdo ?

Listen.

He was on the CROSS, nailed to it.
He then believed on Jesus, who was nailed to HIS CROSS, next to the Thief.
They , the Romans, then broke the dying Thief's legs., so that he could not do anything except hang by his arms and CHOKE to death, as that is what happens. That is what happened to him., and the other one.

So, when did they water baptize Him, gpresdo?

Did they use a water hose, connected to a fire Truck?


C'mon.. you have to think and not just repeat what you have been told to say.

No...no leftist diversion....You are just wrong. You are a new religion follower. Admit it.

Where is the scripture? com'on.

 

[rebuilder 454]

One is not ...born again...until that person is baptized. See Acts 2;38 and several others. I can find and list should you need them.

Far far far from it.
Baptism is the profession and seal of a previous work in a believer.

 

[gpresdo]

Far far far from it.
Baptism is the profession and seal of a previous work in a believer.

I wish I had said it that way. Right on.

 

[gpresdo]

Behold .......will not provide supporting scripture that the thief on the cross with Christ had not been baptized....per Behold's statement in previous posts on this thread.

The reason he has not provided it....he can't......there is no such scripture.
,
It is very possible and most likely, that the thief on the cross with Christ had been baptized and a follower of Christ and backslid in his commitment. Otherwise why would he have recognized who Christ was? No scripture for such conclusion...directly.
More on Beholds wild statements later.