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Nah. According to some it's nothing worth worrying about. Go get your vaccine, it's perfectly safe. Why, the pharma companies are falling all over themselves trying to be the most generous in their personal indemnities and guarantees. And with that icon of eugenics Bill Gates in charge, what can possibly go wrong?
@Josho yes, we know that there are lots of unknowns, but at this stage nothing can be proved and it all just feeds into all the conspiracy and speculation. Right now I have to base it on what I am seeing in front of me.
I am having the Oxford one in about two hours - which works in a different way to the Pfizer one. My dad has his on Saturday, his partner had the Pfizer one a week ago.
Rita
I don't think many will find this, but it is very concerning. Gibraltar, in the previous year since covid has been around, experienced only 16 deaths. In a population of just over 30,000, this is very low. Good huh. However, since the Pfizer vaccine was rolled out there just a couple of weeks ago now, in 10 days they have had 53 further fatalities.
Once you finish reading the main article, note some more at the bottom of the page.
53 Dead in Gibraltar in 10 Days After Experimental Pfizer mRNA COVID Injections Started
I'm not being judgmental Rita. I still have to make the decision myself. But it's a bit more complicated. Death has no play in my decision. However, genetic manipulation does. Praying daily! God Bless You!Not sure I want your prayers if you consider I need them because I have chosen to have the Vaccine. Thanks all the same, perhaps I should pray that you become less judgemental towards others without knowing the full reasons. You make your choice, and allow me to make mine.
Rita
You sounded as if you were presuming what dictated my decision , there were many factors for me. My dad is not a Christian xI'm not being judgmental Rita. I still have to make the decision myself. But it's a bit more complicated. Death has no play in my decision. However, genetic manipulation does. Praying daily! God Bless You!
Ha! That very same thought is what came to mind when I read @BarbaraWhatever the choice, trust God.
Lol , to be honest I do have concerns about the Pfizer vaccine and the other one. The Oxford one , to me, is no different than the flu vaccine that is offered each year ( which I have never had but will be considering next year due to getting older ) I believe we have to make wise decisions based on our personal situations and circumstances xxHa! That very same thought is what came to mind when I read @Barbara
last post. I thought, she has no fear of what man can do to her, Amen.
The only way I would ever get this vaccine is if it were mandatory for certain things. Otherwise, live without it and trust God, or live with it and trust God!
xo
I don't think many will find this, but it is very concerning. Gibraltar, in the previous year since covid has been around, experienced only 16 deaths. In a population of just over 30,000, this is very low. Good huh. However, since the Pfizer vaccine was rolled out there just a couple of weeks ago now, in 10 days they have had 53 further fatalities.
Once you finish reading the main article, note some more at the bottom of the page.
53 Dead in Gibraltar in 10 Days After Experimental Pfizer mRNA COVID Injections Started
The "Oxford" vaccine is the AstraZeneca's vaccine. The one using fetal tissue.Lol , to be honest I do have concerns about the Pfizer vaccine and the other one. The Oxford one , to me, is no different than the flu vaccine that is offered each year ( which I have never had but will be considering next year due to getting older ) I believe we have to make wise decisions based on our personal situations and circumstances xx
Rita
And wise you are sister. Your posts are out of the ballpark over the last year alone, as I have noticed. I love your clarity! And your insight, kindness, understanding and bunch's more!Lol , to be honest I do have concerns about the Pfizer vaccine and the other one. The Oxford one , to me, is no different than the flu vaccine that is offered each year ( which I have never had but will be considering next year due to getting older ) I believe we have to make wise decisions based on our personal situations and circumstances xx
Rita
The vaccine obviously didn't help, and from the numbers you presented, things are much worse after everyone was vaccinated.Hi Backlit
I hear what the article is saying, we had the same thoughts when we started to experience problems at our nursing home, however it’s not happening board with the residents. We have 100+residents and we first encountered covid in the home back in November, I think we had five resident cases, and two carers. This trend kind of continued. A high percentage of the residents and carers were vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine , carers first back in December. No long term problems and to date all carers who tested positive with covid, and had symptoms, have made full recoveries. Then the residents were vaccinated in January, not all but most. We have three floors, average 30-32 on each floor. The demencia floor got an outbreak a few weeks after the vaccination, but a carer had tested positive. By the very nature of demencia the residents could not be forced to isolate -they simply don’t understand the rule to stay in your room. To date ten carers on that floor and 24 residents got covid. All carers recovered, 8 residents have died so far, some have recovered, some are still unwell. On another floor four residents tested positive, once again after a carer became unwell. Two are in hospital, two are recovering. On the residential floor, one resident has covid, but is not too bad at the moment.
Although you could argue that the Pfizer vaccine could be a factor, it may not be a factor at all. In the U.K. we have the new strain, also it is quite normal for a second wave of a virus to be worse than the first. Many of the younger people who have lost their lives have not been vaccinated. Gibraltar could have encountered the new strain.
All I am saying is that it could be coincidence. Trust me it crossed my mind when everything happened so fast at the home, a few weeks ago. However it doesn’t match up across the board, some of the carers had not been vaccinated, but had the same symptoms as the residents, same with the residents.
The problem is that you don’t know if they would have died if they had not had the vaccine and got covid.
There is no proof either way, just speculation.
Rita
The vaccine obviously didn't help, and from the numbers you presented, things are much worse after everyone was vaccinated.
I don't think many will find this, but it is very concerning. Gibraltar, in the previous year since covid has been around, experienced only 16 deaths. In a population of just over 30,000, this is very low. Good huh. However, since the Pfizer vaccine was rolled out there just a couple of weeks ago now, in 10 days they have had 53 further fatalities.
Once you finish reading the main article, note some more at the bottom of the page.
53 Dead in Gibraltar in 10 Days After Experimental Pfizer mRNA COVID Injections Started
I would not draw that conclusion as vaccines take time to do what they are meant to and the outbreak on the demencia floor was quite close to the day of vaccination. Also we have 100+ residents, only a percentage got the virus and only a percentage died. You cannot isolate demencia residents, so they gave it to one another.The vaccine obviously didn't help, and from the numbers you presented, things are much worse after everyone was vaccinated.
Really, not sure others would agree, but I thank you for your kind words Nancy xxxxxxAnd wise you are sister. Your posts are out of the ballpark over the last year alone, as I have noticed. I love your clarity! And your insight, kindness, understanding and bunch's more!
xx
As always correlation doesn't mean causation.I would not draw that conclusion as vaccines take time to do what they are meant to and the outbreak on the demencia floor was quite close to the day of vaccination. Also we have 100+ residents, only a percentage got the virus and only a percentage died. You cannot isolate demencia residents, so they gave it to one another.
If you read my post you will see that we had a new strain, it hit the south of the U.K. in December, it is more contagious. So that was a factor as well.