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Dave L
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Everything you've said so far is meaningless unless you can show One Person called God present instead of two persons called God present.This has been adequately answered as far as I'm concerned...if you are blind to the reality of the answer then I cannot help you except to pray that God will heal you of your spiritual blindness and open your eyes.
How many Gods/Lords are present at Jesus' baptism? You have not yet answered this question with a specific number.
My answer would be, that the Bible teaches that there is one God, even one Lord, present at Jesus' baptism. So if you have a different answer, speak up; and also give biblical support for your answer.
My biblical support: there is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5, 1 Corinthians 8:6); even one God (Ephesians 4:6, 1 Corinthians 8:6).
1 Corinthians 8:6 also presents a problem for you. There is one God, the Father, and one Lord, Jesus Christ. If Jesus is not God the Father, then He is a Lord separate from God the Father. And therefore He is not God: because there is one God and one Lord. In order for Jesus, the one Lord, to be God, He has to be the one God, who is defined as the Father in 1 Corinthians 8:6 (and Ephesians 4:6).
Jehovah's Witnesses use 1 Corinthians 8:6 in their contention that Jesus isn't God. The answer to them is that the Father is the Lord of heaven and earth (Matthew 11:25 and Luke 10:21); and therefore the one Lord Jesus Christ is God the Father.
I would suggest looking up these scriptures and thinking about how these concepts apply.
I would also mention that the Greek word for and is kai, which can be translated as even.
On the Mount of tranfiguration
“While he was still speaking, suddenly a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said: This is My beloved Son. I take delight in Him. Listen to Him! When the disciples heard it, they fell facedown and were terrified. Then Jesus came up, touched them, and said, “Get up; don’t be afraid.”” (Matthew 17:5–7) (HCSB)
“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.” (2 Peter 1:16–18) (KJV 1900)
Jesus' Baptism
“And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” (Matthew 3:16–17) (KJV 1900)
And: At Sodom and Gomorrah
“Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;” (Genesis 19:24) (KJV 1900)