I wouldn't go there. Maybe it is just that scripture that speaks of different means of attaining salvation are what confuse it all.
Two Types Of Repenters That Find Damnation
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Illuminator
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No. Jesus redeemed the human race, salvation is a different topic. No one has the right to say who is saved and who isn't. Joe Biden is "saved", but lost for sanctioning the murder of innocent babies.
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amigo de christo
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Both peter and paul made it real clear .
He took our sins on the cross , that we being made DEAD to sin , SHOULD HENCEFORTH LIVE UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS .
You are correct my friend . JESUS didnt die so i could feel free to sin or in sin . But rather that we would be set free FROM sin .
For the grace of GOD that brings SALVATION , TEACHES us something .
Teaches us to DENY ungodliness , sins , wordly lusts , and to be LIVING righteously godly , soberly in this present world as we await
the coming of the glorious Lord .
Most folks dont know the true biblical version of grace . The grace they teach allows folks to remain in sin and yet FEEL saved .
TRUE grace sets men free from sin . A whole new heart with new desires . Now , LET THE KING BE PRAISED .
amigo de christo
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This sounds like it came right out of the popes handbook . Joe biden aint saved anymore than i once was .
I could holler JESUS name too , but who i served proved whose i was . My faith was DEAD . And dead means I HAD NO FAITH
and if i had not faith , i sure wasnt saved .
ByGraceThroughFaith
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And you will proceed alone .Because I would never claim John 3:16 is pointless because I cannot consolidate the conflicts between whosoever and all those verses that tell us God has determined whom shall be called to salvation.
I picture Joe Biden yelling at God just before he is thrown into the lake of fire, "You can't do that to me! I was President of the United States!"
Rev 20:11, And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12, And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13, And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14, And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15, And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Rev 20:11, And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12, And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13, And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14, And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15, And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
That first part reminded me of the line in the last part of the movie, Shooter. " I'm a United States Senator!" Didn't help there either.
Illuminator
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I don't know. I said he's lost, I didn't say he was hell bound.
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Wrangler
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Wrangler
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The original Greek has no punctuation. What does the following sentence mean:
LET’S EAT GRANDMA.
Trust God will lead him to the righteous path. Joe is stumbling mightily in the twilight of his life.
Ronald Nolette
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Ronald Nolette
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Philip James
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Hello marks,
Being over scrupulous can indeed be a problem.
A good confessor can help with that...
And of course the penetential act and reception of the Eucharist cleanses us from all our unconcious and venial sin.
I confess to almighty God
and to you, my brothers and sisters,
that I have greatly sinned,
in my thoughts and in my words,
in what I have done and in what I have failed to do,
through my fault, through my fault,
through my most grievous fault;
therefore I ask blessed Mary ever-Virgin,
all the Angels and Saints,
and you, my brothers and sisters,
to pray for me to the Lord our God.
Confiteor - Wikipedia
Peace be with you!
Christ is risen!
Alleluia!
Well, what I read, this was done by Jesus on the cross. Our certificate of indebtedness wiped clean before we ever even incurred our first debt!
Much love!
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