US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

[jamesdalbright]

US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev. 18:2
This video reveals how the US if fulfilling THE MOTHER OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH found in Rev.17:5 and how the US is becoming like a prison, which is found in Rev.18:2. This video also foretells of the judgment of the US, which is found in Rev.16: 18-21 and Rev.17: 16-17; and it warns Christians not to participate in the sins of the Left or they will receive their plagues.

 

[The Light]

US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev. 18:2
This video reveals how the US if fulfilling THE MOTHER OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH found in Rev.17:5 and how the US is becoming like a prison, which is found in Rev.18:2. This video also foretells of the judgment of the US, which is found in Rev.16: 18-21 and Rev.17: 16-17; and it warns Christians not to participate in the sins of the Left or they will receive their plagues.

The US is neither Babylon nor Mystery Babylon.

The U.S. is the greatest country in the world....ever. We are the most prosperous and generous nation and have spread the Word of God all over the world. Will the U.S. be judged? Absolutely, as all nations will.

Is the U.S Babylon? No. The judgement against Babylon is against the land of the Chaldeans. Gulf War 1 when all nations came against Babylon and Gulf War II when a great nation came against Babylon were the 1st two parts of her judgement. The final part of her judgement will occur on the Day of the Lord and then Babylon will never be inhabited again.

The verses you quote is about the woman that dresses in purple and scarlet (Mystery Babylon) and has a gold cup in her hand. That woman is known as the Holy Mother Church.

 

[Truth7t7]

US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev. 18:2
This video reveals how the US if fulfilling THE MOTHER OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH found in Rev.17:5 and how the US is becoming like a prison, which is found in Rev.18:2. This video also foretells of the judgment of the US, which is found in Rev.16: 18-21 and Rev.17: 16-17; and it warns Christians not to participate in the sins of the Left or they will receive their plagues.

Jerusalem is Mystery Babylon the Great, as you have been shown several times

 

[Truth7t7]

The US is neither Babylon nor Mystery Babylon.

The U.S. is the greatest country in the world....ever. We are the most prosperous and generous nation and have spread the Word of God all over the world. Will the U.S. be judged? Absolutely, as all nations will.

I Agree 100%

 

[ewq1938]

The US is neither Babylon nor Mystery Babylon.

Her name is Babylon, not mystery Babylon.

 

[ewq1938]

Babylon is a symbolic city and symbolic woman. She isn't a city and isn't a woman. She isn't Jerusalem, the USA, or the Catholic church. She doesn't even exist yet, but almost.


She is all those who will worship the antichrist as god. She is a false religion and her false husband is the AC.

 

[The Light]

Babylon is a symbolic city and symbolic woman. She isn't a city and isn't a woman.

Here is that so called symbolic city being judged and burned with fire.

Revelation 18
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

She is UTTERLY BURNED WITH FIRE. She is not a symbol. The city is Vatican City.

She isn't Jerusalem, the USA,

Good.

or the Catholic church. She doesn't even exist yet, but almost.

The Catholic Church has taken the false religion of Babylon and merged it with Christianity. She has power over the kings of the earth.

She is all those who will worship the antichrist as god. She is a false religion and her false husband is the AC.

She is definitely a false religion and that religion is all over the world.

 

[CadyandZoe]

@The Light
@Truth7t7
@ewq1938

I wouldn't take lightly what Truth7t7 said about "mystery" Babylon. While one might argue that the Catholic Church behaved in Babylon-like manner, she practiced her ways openly not in secret. John is talking about a "secret" Babylon. A city that can't be seen. A cabal that remains in the shadows, ruling through intrigue, subterfuge, infiltration, and blackmail.

Here is one more clue: the Biblical references to a "whore" typically indicate Israel during those times when she is calling on other "gods" instead of remaining true to her husband. nuff said.

 

[The Light]

@The Light
@Truth7t7
@ewq1938

I wouldn't take lightly what Truth7t7 said about "mystery" Babylon. While one might argue that the Catholic Church behaved in Babylon-like manner, she practiced her ways openly not in secret. John is talking about a "secret" Babylon. A city that can't be seen. A cabal that remains in the shadows, ruling through intrigue, subterfuge, infiltration, and blackmail.

Jerusalem was not under control of the Jews until 1967. The kings of the earth have been under the influence of the woman that dresses in purple and scarlet since 325 AD.

Here is one more clue: the Biblical references to a "whore" typically indicate Israel during those times when she is calling on other "gods" instead of remaining true to her husband. nuff said.

Well not exactly nuff said. This is EXACTLY why the Jews are not the first harvest of the fig tree. They are the second harvest. God saw the fathers of the Jews as the first ripe in the fig tree AT HER FIRST TIME, meaning that God saw the fathers of the Jews as the first fruits of the first harvest. But since they served other Gods they will not be the first harvest.

Hosea 9
10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.

The Gentile Church will be the first harvest. This is the grain harvest, the barley and wheat. The dead in Christ and the alive that remain.

This is why there are 144,000 first fruits of the 12 tribes. They are the first fruits of the second harvest.

When the Lord comes for the Church, what do the Jews say?

Jeremiah 8
20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

The Jews will realize that they missed the first harvest. The fig tree has two harvests. The 12 tribes across the earth will be the second harvest which occurs with the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. Here is that harvest.

Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

This is why they sing the song of Moses in Revelation 15

Revelation 15
2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

Only the nation of Israel, those that flee to a place of protection and unbelievers will go through the wrath of God. The believers, the Church and the seed of the woman that will have the testimony of Jesus Christ and keep the commandments of God will be in heaven for the marriage supper. Jacob had two brides.

 

[ewq1938]

@The Light
@Truth7t7
@ewq1938

I wouldn't take lightly what Truth7t7 said about "mystery" Babylon.

"mystery" is not part of Babylon's name.

Here is one more clue: the Biblical references to a "whore" typically indicate Israel during those times when she is calling on other "gods" instead of remaining true to her husband. nuff said.

All unsaved people including those of Israel will form the symbolic Babylon when they worship the false god, the AC.

 

[Truth7t7]

Jerusalem was not under control of the Jews until 1967. The kings of the earth have been under the influence of the woman that dresses in purple and scarlet since 325 AD.

Rome/Vatican City has absolutely nothing to do with fulfilling the "Great City" seen below, that seen is future, and Jerusalem will reign over the world's kings, when the antichrist takes his future seat in Jerusalem

"All The Unsaved That Dwell Upon This Earth Shall Worship Him"

Re:elation 13:8KJV
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 17:16-18KJV
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

 

[CadyandZoe]

"mystery" is not part of Babylon's name.

Some would argue that the term "name" goes with the term "mystery" since they are both in the neuter case in Greek. But what else could it mean for the name to be a mystery if Babylon itself is out in the open?

I need more study I think.

 

[Timtofly]

Jerusalem was not under control of the Jews until 1967. The kings of the earth have been under the influence of the woman that dresses in purple and scarlet since 325 AD.

Well not exactly nuff said. This is EXACTLY why the Jews are not the first harvest of the fig tree. They are the second harvest. God saw the fathers of the Jews as the first ripe in the fig tree AT HER FIRST TIME, meaning that God saw the fathers of the Jews as the first fruits of the first harvest. But since they served other Gods they will not be the first harvest.

Hosea 9
10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.

The Gentile Church will be the first harvest. This is the grain harvest, the barley and wheat. The dead in Christ and the alive that remain.

This is why there are 144,000 first fruits of the 12 tribes. They are the first fruits of the second harvest.

When the Lord comes for the Church, what do the Jews say?

Jeremiah 8
20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

The Jews will realize that they missed the first harvest. The fig tree has two harvests. The 12 tribes across the earth will be the second harvest which occurs with the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. Here is that harvest.

Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

This is why they sing the song of Moses in Revelation 15

Revelation 15
2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

Only the nation of Israel, those that flee to a place of protection and unbelievers will go through the wrath of God. The believers, the Church and the seed of the woman that will have the testimony of Jesus Christ and keep the commandments of God will be in heaven for the marriage supper. Jacob had two brides.

If you understand this much, why can you not see that Jesus comes to earth in the 6th Seal to gather the harvest you call Jacob?

That is what Matthew 25:31-46 declares. Jacob is brought out of the nations. Most of Jacob are goats and cast into the LOF. Some are redeemed as sheep, and rule on earth with Jesus for the thousand years.

Jacob is not assembled in the air. Jacob is called to the throne in Jerusalem and judged by their King. They are still gathered by the angels. That is the most reliable form of transportation after the destruction of the 6th Seal, and Peter's description of all the works on earth burned up.

 

[The Light]

If you understand this much, why can you not see that Jesus comes to earth in the 6th Seal to gather the harvest you call Jacob?

That is what Matthew 25:31-46 declares. Jacob is brought out of the nations. Most of Jacob are goats and cast into the LOF. Some are redeemed as sheep, and rule on earth with Jesus for the thousand years.

Jacob is not assembled in the air. Jacob is called to the throne in Jerusalem and judged by their King. They are still gathered by the angels. That is the most reliable form of transportation after the destruction of the 6th Seal, and Peter's description of all the works on earth burned up.

What you are not seeing is that Jesus comes IN THE CLOUDS and does not come to the physical earth at the 6th seal. Here is the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. He remains in the clouds. He comes BEFORE the wrath of God

Rev 14

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Jesus will come to the earth during the trumpets and will set up His kingdom at the 7th trumpet.

 

[Timtofly]

What you are not seeing is that Jesus comes IN THE CLOUDS and does not come to the physical earth at the 6th seal. Here is the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. He remains in the clouds. He comes BEFORE the wrath of God

Rev 14

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Jesus will come to the earth during the trumpets and will set up His kingdom at the 7th trumpet.

Revelation 14 is not the 6th Seal.

Jesus comes to the Mount of Olives in the 6th Seal. That is the Second Coming with the angels. Nothing about clouds in Revelation 6.

 

[ewq1938]

Some would argue that the term "name" goes with the term "mystery" since they are both in the neuter case in Greek. But what else could it mean for the name to be a mystery if Babylon itself is out in the open?

I need more study I think.

I think Barnes has it right:

Mystery - It is proper to remark that there is nothing in the original as written by John, so far as now known, that corresponded with what is implied in placing this inscription in capital letters; and the same remark may be made of the “title” or inscription that was placed over the head of the Saviour on the cross, Mat_27:37; Mar_15:26; Luk_23:38; Joh_19:19. Our translators have adopted this form, apparently for the sole purpose of denoting that it was an inscription or title. On the meaning of the word “mystery,” see the notes on 1Co_2:7. Compare the notes on 1Ti_3:16. Here it seems to be used to denote that there was something hidden, obscure, or enigmatical, under the title adopted; that is, the word “Babylon,” and the word “mother,” were symbolical. Our translators have printed and pointed the word “mystery” as if it were part of the inscription. It would probably be better to regard it as referring to the inscription, thus: “a name was written - a mysterious name, to wit, Babylon,” etc. Or, “a name was written mysteriously.”

 

[CadyandZoe]

I think Barnes has it right:

Mystery - It is proper to remark that there is nothing in the original as written by John, so far as now known, that corresponded with what is implied in placing this inscription in capital letters; and the same remark may be made of the “title” or inscription that was placed over the head of the Saviour on the cross, Mat_27:37; Mar_15:26; Luk_23:38; Joh_19:19. Our translators have adopted this form, apparently for the sole purpose of denoting that it was an inscription or title. On the meaning of the word “mystery,” see the notes on 1Co_2:7. Compare the notes on 1Ti_3:16. Here it seems to be used to denote that there was something hidden, obscure, or enigmatical, under the title adopted; that is, the word “Babylon,” and the word “mother,” were symbolical. Our translators have printed and pointed the word “mystery” as if it were part of the inscription. It would probably be better to regard it as referring to the inscription, thus: “a name was written - a mysterious name, to wit, Babylon,” etc. Or, “a name was written mysteriously.”

Okay, except there is nothing mysterious about the name.

 

[The Light]

Revelation 14 is not the 6th Seal.

Jesus comes to the Mount of Olives in the 6th Seal. That is the Second Coming with the angels. Nothing about clouds in Revelation 6.

The coming of Jesus in Revelation 14 is the 6th seal. It is the same coming of Jesus as Matthew 24. When you are reading Revelation 13 and 14 you are back in the seals. Revelation is written like Gesesis 7. How many times does Noah load the animals and how many floods are there? Your error is thinking that the tribulation is the wrath of God. The tribulation is not the wrath of God. The tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins.

You think, as most others, that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 is when Jesus comes with the armies of heaven and Jesus sets His feet on the Mount of Olives. We can prove that is wrong.......if you pay attention. But none ever do.

Matthew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

No matter how many times I post this. No matter how simple it is, there is ALWAYS a reason that people can't see what is right in front of their face. There is always an excuse and the excuse is always wrong.

You understand that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 is the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. From the Word of God we can tell that the tribulation is over when Jesus comes at the 6th seal. And yet wrath has not even begun. The great day of His wrath is come. We see the great multitude in heaven in Revelation 7. They are not on the earth with the armies of heaven. The tribulation is over and yet wrath has not begun. Wrath cannot begin until the 7th seal is opened.

The problem is always this verse:
Revelation 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

So people think since it says "thy wrath is come" at the 6th seal and also in Revelation 11 that the 6th seal happens at the end of the trumpets. They never apply simple logic. How can the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal be the coming of Jesus at the end of the trumpets if the 7th seal is not opened.

Further, Jesus has returned before the 7th trumpet as the 7th trumpet is Jesus setting up His kingdom on earth. Armageddon is over.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

So Revelation reads like this.
1) From Revelation 4 you can read staight through to Revelation 11.
2) Revelation 4 and 5 are the dead in Christ rising and the Church in heaven. The fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
3)The seals are opened. The seals are the final week. The first four seals are the beginning of sorrows.
4) The fifth seal happens during the great tibulation.
5) The sixth seal is the coming of Jesus for the second harvest.
6) At this point the tribulation is over
7) Then the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God can begin when the first tumpet sounds.
8) When the 7th trumpet sounds, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. Armageddon is over and Jesus has returned and set up His kingdom on earth.
9) Judgement happens and rewards are given.
10) The story is over. It's complete, it's finished. That's it. There is no more tribulation or wrath. The millennial reign begins.

Do you want to see the story again with different details?
1) Revelation 13 and 14 are events that happen during the 1st 6 seals.
2) Here is the great tribulation in Revelation 14. This happens during the 5th seal.
Revelation 14
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
3) Here is the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal.
Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
4) Here is wrath getting ready to begin after the harvest at the 6th seal.
Revelation 14
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
5) The vials are just a different view of Gods wrath with different details.
6) Here is Armageddon and the end of wrath again
Revelation 16
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

So, The coming of Jesus at the 6th seal is the coming of Jesus BEFORE wrath. The coming of Jesus at the 7th trumpet is the coming of Jesus at the end of wrath.

Tribulation and wrath are not the same thing. Jesus comes at the 6th seal for the second harvest and Jesus comes again at the end of the trumpets to set up His kingdom.

THE WRATH OF GOD LASTS ONE YEAR.

 

[Timtofly]

The coming of Jesus in Revelation 14 is the 6th seal. It is the same coming of Jesus as Matthew 24. When you are reading Revelation 13 and 14 you are back in the seals. Revelation is written like Gesesis 7. How many times does Noah load the animals and how many floods are there? Your error is thinking that the tribulation is the wrath of God. The tribulation is not the wrath of God. The tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins.

You think, as most others, that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 is when Jesus comes with the armies of heaven and Jesus sets His feet on the Mount of Olives. We can prove that is wrong.......if you pay attention. But none ever do.

Matthew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

No matter how many times I post this. No matter how simple it is, there is ALWAYS a reason that people can't see what is right in front of their face. There is always an excuse and the excuse is always wrong.

You understand that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 is the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. From the Word of God we can tell that the tribulation is over when Jesus comes at the 6th seal. And yet wrath has not even begun. The great day of His wrath is come. We see the great multitude in heaven in Revelation 7. They are not on the earth with the armies of heaven. The tribulation is over and yet wrath has not begun. Wrath cannot begin until the 7th seal is opened.

The problem is always this verse:
Revelation 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

So people think since it says "thy wrath is come" at the 6th seal and also in Revelation 11 that the 6th seal happens at the end of the trumpets. They never apply simple logic. How can the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal be the coming of Jesus at the end of the trumpets if the 7th seal is not opened.

Further, Jesus has returned before the 7th trumpet as the 7th trumpet is Jesus setting up His kingdom on earth. Armageddon is over.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

So Revelation reads like this.
1) From Revelation 4 you can read staight through to Revelation 11.
2) Revelation 4 and 5 are the dead in Christ rising and the Church in heaven. The fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
3)The seals are opened. The seals are the final week. The first four seals are the beginning of sorrows.
4) The fifth seal happens during the great tibulation.
5) The sixth seal is the coming of Jesus for the second harvest.
6) At this point the tribulation is over
7) Then the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God can begin when the first tumpet sounds.
8) When the 7th trumpet sounds, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. Armageddon is over and Jesus has returned and set up His kingdom on earth.
9) Judgement happens and rewards are given.
10) The story is over. It's complete, it's finished. That's it. There is no more tribulation or wrath. The millennial reign begins.

Do you want to see the story again with different details?
1) Revelation 13 and 14 are events that happen during the 1st 6 seals.
2) Here is the great tribulation in Revelation 14. This happens during the 5th seal.
Revelation 14
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
3) Here is the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal.
Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
4) Here is wrath getting ready to begin after the harvest at the 6th seal.
Revelation 14
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
5) The vials are just a different view of Gods wrath with different details.
6) Here is Armageddon and the end of wrath again
Revelation 16
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

So, The coming of Jesus at the 6th seal is the coming of Jesus BEFORE wrath. The coming of Jesus at the 7th trumpet is the coming of Jesus at the end of wrath.

Tribulation and wrath are not the same thing. Jesus comes at the 6th seal for the second harvest and Jesus comes again at the end of the trumpets to set up His kingdom.

THE WRATH OF GOD LASTS ONE YEAR.

I never said the tribulation is the wrath of God. That must be your imagination in overdrive.

Literally Revelation 14 is Revelation 19 without the 42 months given to Satan. Jesus was already on earth in Revelation 14. Jesus never left earth between the 6th Seal and the 7th Trumpet.

Revelation 14 is not symbolic of a return. It is the symbolism of Jesus's ultimate authority to remove all the last of Adam's dead corruptible flesh. This is not a harvest. This is the destruction of Adam's flesh, once and for all.

If Satan is not granted 42 months then all those who would have been killed at Armageddon, are now killed at the end of the days of the 7th Trumpet. These humans cannot be killed all at the same time, twice. Either they are killed in Revelation 14 or 42 months later at Armageddon in Revelation 19.

God's wrath is either poured out in Revelation 14 in the winepress, or the 3 days between the end of the 42 months, and Armageddon while the 2 witnesses lay dead in the street of Jerusalem.

Why do you think it takes God a whole year to kill off the rest of Adam's dead corruptible flesh? The Battle of Armageddon does not last a year. Why would killing them at the end of the days of the 7th Trumpet take a year? I doubt the tribulation will last a year. We are running out of time.

 

[Brakelite]

Babylon the Great in Revelation is not a geographical term, but a spiritual term. Babylon ceases to exist as a physical entity 2500 years ago, and good promised it would never be rebuilt. But the spiritual values, doctrines, and false concepts that comprised ancient Babylon still exist today, and will be the principle doctrines... The golden cup of abominations..... That will undergird the soon global religious conglomerate to come. It is a symbolic city, a threefold union of the dragon; the second beast of Revelation 13 the false prophet; and the first beast of Revelation 13, the Papacy. These can also be recognized in Revelation 16:13,14 as well as verse 19.
The work of the dragon, Satan, will especially be seen in spiritism and the occult/new age/demonic activity that will greatly increase in these last days.
The false prophet will be that union of the apostate protestant church in America and US government that leads the world back into a state of submission to the Papacy through ecumenism. Those will include all the fallen protestant churches as well as other false religions such as Hindu, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism etc. These prophecies are not directed at individual members of those organizations... In Revelation 18 they are called out of them, and numerous will heed that call... those members are described as the waters and tongues and tribes etc that the woman sits on.