Was Jesus a 'created being?'

[Waiting on him]

And it’s certainly not written of me.

 

[Mugre Pinzon]

Jesus is.

From John, ch 1:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

 

[Waiting on him]

Gods creation began in the first century, with Jesus being the first born as scripture clearly states.


Colossians 1:15 KJV
[15] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Interesting, yesterday I found that Jesus have no "dual" nature, that of man, and that of Christ.
Of which I firmly believe.
How would you answer?
J.

Well as Scripture doesn't explain how the hypostatic union of jesus works, I can only say that jesus is divine and human.

As a man He emptied Himself of His divine privileges to suffer temptation to be a faithful high priest who is touched with the feelings of our infirmities.

But given teh fact He walked on water, rose from the dead, fed 20,000 people with a few fiush and bread, raised teh dead etc., It shows He was also divine in His humanity.

 

[Pearl]

Gods creation began in the first century, with Jesus being the first born as scripture clearly states.

What a strange interpretation of creation.

 

[Johann]

Well as Scripture doesn't explain how the hypostatic union of jesus works, I can only say that jesus is divine and human.

As a man He emptied Himself of His divine privileges to suffer temptation to be a faithful high priest who is touched with the feelings of our infirmities.

But given teh fact He walked on water, rose from the dead, fed 20,000 people with a few fiush and bread, raised teh dead etc., It shows He was also divine in His humanity.

And also the account of our Lord' transfiguration.
Fully human, fully Divine.
J.

 

[Johann]

What a strange interpretation of creation.

He reads "firstborn" ie, Jesus was a created being"
J.

 

[Matthias]

Gods creation began in the first century, with Jesus being the first born as scripture clearly states.


Colossians 1:15 KJV
[15] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

When you say “God’s creation began in the first century” it sounds to me like you are speaking about the new creation. Is that correct?

 

[farouk]

Hebrews 2 says of the Lord Jesus: "By Whom also He made the worlds....Thy Throne, O God, is for ever and ever".

 

[friend of]

For the last time, no

 

[Waiting on him]

When you say “God’s creation began in the first century” it sounds to me like you are speaking about the new creation. Is that correct?

Absolutely. Scripture declares that.

 

[Waiting on him]

What a strange interpretation of creation.

Contrary to Roman Catholic doctrine I believe only those who are born of God are His creation. Jesus is the first born of God as scripture declares.
This all began in the first century.

 

[friend of]

Contrary to Roman Catholic doctrine I believe only those who are born of God are His creation. Jesus is the first born of God as scripture declares.
This all began in the first century.

Okay so are you saying that the first 4000 years before Christ actually came... after... Jesus came to earth?

 

[Pearl]

Contrary to Roman Catholic doctrine I believe only those who are born of God are His creation. Jesus is the first born of God as scripture declares.
This all began in the first century.

I think that is contrary to all christian doctrine that believe in the Genesis account of creation.

 

[Waiting on him]

Okay so are you saying that the first 4000 years before Christ actually came... after... Jesus came to earth?

The creation we are a part of currently began with Jesus in the first century. God created no one prior to Jesus’s birth first century.

even you are not a part of this creation unless you have been born from above.

 

[friend of]

The creation we are a part of currently began with Jesus in the first century. God created no one prior to Jesus’s birth first century.

even you are not a part of this creation unless you have been born from above.

I've personally imagined this scenario before. That creation actually began at Christ's first advent. It doesn't quite square with our understanding of the passage of time though.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Luke 1:31 . . And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth
a son

Wrong. Mary actually asked the angel, "How shall this be seeing I know not a man?"

Luke 1:34-35
[34]Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
[35]And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Mary knew exactly who Jesus was!

 

[TLHKAJ]

This suggests to me that the origin of Jesus is in the womb of his mother. Does it to you?

That was David talking.... read post #97.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I think that is contrary to all christian doctrine that believe in the Genesis account of creation.

And also a bit ridiculous. lol
How can anyone be in existence without being created..... in a world that wasn't created first??

 

[Waiting on him]

It doesn't quite square with our understanding of the passage of time though.

Not certain what you are saying here.