What is penance?
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Not only in New Testament
do penance for you sins
lev 5:5
1 kings 8:33-47
Job 21:2
Her 8;6
many more
do penance for you sins
lev 5:5
1 kings 8:33-47
Job 21:2
Her 8;6
many more
Did the kjv boys negate the word of God by changing it from doing penance for your sins to repent or confess your sin?
5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”
2 and saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”
Robert Gwin
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More modernly referred to as Repentence Faith. It means to admit the sin, ask for forgiveness, and do your utmost to not do it again.
I can’t help it if you insist on a faulty translation of scripture
it’s do penance for your sins
Make reparation to God’s justice
Three things constitute penance!
prayer, alms, fasting!
Jesus did not say if you do these but when you do them!
so they are required
prayer, alms, fasting!
Jesus did not say if you do these but when you do them!
so they are required
God’s mercy forgives us by the merits of Christ’s passion, blood, and death but we have to satisfy God’s justice and Christ in His sacrifice makes this possible to his members
Matt 5:25
Matt 18:30
Behold
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"Penance" is a "cult of the virgin" mistranslation of the word "repentance", that was created by a really bad translation of the "Latin" text that was created by Jerome.
Because of this horrible mistranslation, one good thing happened and one bad thing continues.
The good.. is that Martin Luther realized that Jerome was a really bad Translator, who recreated verses, which caused Martin Luther to begin to reject the "cult of the Virgin", that led to the "Protestant reformation".
The bad.... is that because of this horrible mistranslation, billions of catholics are sent to do some Legalistic Cross rejecting "work" as if this can justify them.
that’s repentance which obtains mercy!
Penance requires our satisfaction to the justice of God!
Lk 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
Lk 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
(as a song of thanksgiving)
Jn 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
a new song!
Psalm 96:1
O sing unto the Lord a new song: sing unto the Lord, all the earth.
the new song?
Lk 1:28 Hail, Mary! Full of grace!
in thanksgiving to God who did great things to Mary our divine mother! Lk 1:49
penance is provided by God in the merits of Christ!
Luther was an apostle?
Eph 2:20
Or a excommunicated heretic?
Why do we need to punish ourselves when Jesus has already paid the price in full for our sin. He took the punishment and we are redeemed through that.
These are not penance. They are the normal way of life for a Christian.
penance
- 1.punishment inflicted on oneself as an outward expression of repentance
- 2.a sacrament in which a member of the Church confesses sins to a priest and is given absolution.
And because Jesus already forgave our sin we do not need absolution from a man/priest.
Behold
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Only the "cult of the virgin" teaches that mary is divine.
The Bible does not teach this..
The bible says that "mary is blessed among women"..but the "cult of the virgin" teaches that she is blessed above women.
Did you ever notice that from the Cross, Jesus didnt call mary his "mother".
He called her "woman".
Catholics should take note of this, asap and repent of their "mary lies".
Jesus did it all for us!
That’s a fundamentalist idea not Christian
if he did all for us explain?
Luke 9:23
And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
Luke 14:27
And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
he made it possible for us to do penance to repair the offense we committed against God and His commandments
he obtained mercy and made reparation to the divine justice possible
Behold
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Jesus was on the earth, when He spoke your verses.
So, to be a disciple on earth, you do need to offer yourself, in His service, down here.
But, to go to heaven, you have to be given from God, the sacrifice of Christ's blood and death on the CROSS for your sin, that you can't resolve by carrying a cross or carrying anything else, @theefaith.
woman? Christ is referring to Gen 3:15 about his mother Mary!
who said Mary is divine?
Where does the church teach that Mary is divine?
I said on purpose, “the divine mother”!
That don’t make her God!
we call the apostle John
“St. John the Divine” does that make him God? No!
He only taught the most about the divinity so he is called St. John the divine
And the divine mother only means “mother of God”!
