Do you honestly believe that God has a body of His own?
Is it square, round or oval?
It is shaped like an hourglass?
Are you comparing the omnipresent God to a human being?
Go get some coffee, you're delirious.
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Is it square, round or oval?
It is shaped like an hourglass?
Are you comparing the omnipresent God to a human being?
Go get some coffee, you're delirious.
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Illuminator
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That's NOT what the verse says, Einstein
Col. 2:9
For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form, and you have been filled in him, who is the head over every ruler and authority.
It says that "... in Him, GOD exists in bodily form".
It DOESN'T say that God "dwells in Him".
God dwells in ALL Christians - so WHY would Paul write about this, Einstein?
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John 1:1, 14
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was GOD.
And the Word (God) became FLESH, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.
This ain't rockect science, Einstein - but uit DOES take faith.
And faith is comething YOU are completely devoid of . . .
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The only other person to hold this biblical title, Full of Grace, is found in Luke 1:28.
the phrase “full of grace” is translated from the Greek word “kecharitomene.” This is a unique title given to "the M word", and suggests a perfection of grace from a past event. The "M" word is not just “highly favored.” She has been perfected in grace by God. “Full of grace” is only used to describe one other Person – Jesus Christ in John 1:14.
Trying to explain the mystery of the Incarnation to a Modalist hybrid is like trying to teach advanced calculus to a 5 year old.
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The Holy Spirit sent by Jesus to lead us into all truth (john 14:16,17).
When God, by the Holy SPirit, tells you something, then that's the SUBSTANCE AND THE EVIDENCE of what you're to do. (Rom 10:17 / Heb 11:1)
The CHURCH that Jesus Christ died to make possible, and for Born Again Christians to be part of from the beginning of the NEW Covenant until the end of the age. (1 Tim 3:15)
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The Holy Spirit leads into Truth, AND Supplies wisdom AS PROMISED to whomever desires it single mindedly (James 1:5-8)
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Same answer (of course) Jesus HIMSELF sent the HOLY SPIRIT to be the Comforter, and who is the very SPIRIT OF TRUTH for us.
John 14:16,26
READ IT FOR YOURSELF!!!!
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Soooo, the tends of thousands of perpetually-splintering Protestant sects that ALL teach diffrent doctrines based on the interpretational whims of their human founderss were ALL led to this confusion by the Holy Spirit?
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But that doesn't rule out the need for an authoritive Church to teach sound doctrine.
James 1:5-8 doesn't say that. The Bible does not support radical individualism that has undermined Protestant unity since its inception.
(2 Tim. 3:16–17)This passage doesn’t teach formal sufficiency, which excludes a binding, authoritative role for Tradition and Church. Protestants extrapolate onto the text what isn’t there. If we look at the overall context of this passage, we can see that Paul makes reference to oral Tradition three times (cf. 2 Tim. 1:13–14; 2:2; 3:14). And to use an analogy, let’s examine a similar passage:
“And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the cunning of men, by their craftiness in deceitful wiles. Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ” (Eph. 4:11–15).
If 2 Timothy 3 proves the sole sufficiency of Scripture, then, by analogy, Ephesians 4 would likewise prove the sufficiency of pastors and teachers for the attainment of Christian perfection. In Ephesians 4, the Christian believer is equipped, built up, brought into unity and mature manhood, and even preserved from doctrinal confusion by means of the teaching function of the Church. This is a far stronger statement of the perfecting of the saints than 2 Timothy 3, yet it does not even mention Scripture.
So if all non-scriptural elements are excluded in 2 Timothy, then, by analogy, Scripture would logically have to be excluded in Ephesians. It is far more reasonable to recognize that the absence of one or more elements in one passage does not mean that they are nonexistent. The Church and Scripture are both equally necessary and important for teaching.
In order for Bob to convince me the "me-the-Bible-and-the-Holy-Spirit" mentality is any kind of "rule of faith", then he must demonstrate, through Scripture Alone, that the Church is not necessary for sound teaching. I say it can't be done.
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If you are referring to 1) then the question asks for the source, which is God.
jn 16:13 HS leads the apostles into all truth
Matt 28:19 they teach us
Lk 1:4 acts 8:31
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Pay attention, Einstein . . .
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was GOD.
It doesn't say, "The Word was spoken by God."
It says, "The Word WAS GOD.'
Now - what happened to that Word that WAS GOD?
John 1:14
And the Word (God) became FLESH, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.
There ends the lesson for the day, son.
Where does it say read for yourself?
we must be taught Matt 28:19 lk 1:4 acts 8:31
No, you look....
1 In the beginning was the (SPOKEN)Word, and the (SPOKEN)Word was with God, and the (SPOKEN)Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him(HIS SPOKEN WORD-GEN 1); and without him was not any thing made that was made....
14 And the (SPOKEN WORD)Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
And all this time you thought the word was 1/3rd of God.
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