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Let me start by introducing myself. I am an Athiest considering the posibility that God is real due to information found in the link referenced study as illustrated below concerning the posibility of Jesus fulfilling time specific prophecy. I currently reject the concept of God due to the differing testimonies of Christian men regarding this specific topic which men claim is not important for Salvation. If the solid truth concerning this topic is not important for salvation, then I am already saved for not believing in God due to the many differing testimonies concerning this event that the Christian world has produced over the centuries causing me to not believe in God, and there is no reason for me to belive in God or for Christians to feel the need to spread a Gospel that varies depending on the person or denomination telling the Gospel according to their imagination.
http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf
The study at this link makes the best case to date I have seen for Jesus fulfilling the 4 day time specific prophecy of the Passover Lamb (Lamb Chosen on tenth day and killed on 14th day). The study then goes on to make the best case to date that I have seen for Jesus fulfilling the 3 days and 3 nights propehcy in accordence with the manner in which God defined time in the scriptures, possibly proving the scriptures of Prophecy are not open to personal interpretations. Is this study deciving me to believe in God? Are Many Christians deceived to believe in God in less than "in spirit and in truth" since the true worshippers of God are said to be "in spirit and in truth"? I only ask this question since truth from God should not vary depending on the human perception delivering the truth of God from God since those of the truth hear God's voice according to Jesus when speaking to Pilate.
I want to present an exercise for human perception with this thread. On page 25 of the link referenced study is a page that presents all the denominational starting points for the 3 days and 3 nights Prophecy that the Christian world has shared in various denominations at various points in Christian history. If the true worshippers of God are in spirit and in truth then the truth should be solid and verifiable. Which of the starting points represented by colored arrows on the top of page 25, or the bottom time line of page 25 is the truth from God according to the Law and testimony (spirit of Prophecy)?
Don't just make a claim to a starting point and call it truth from God; Please explain why the perception of truth you are presenting is more true than the other Christian perceptions objectively illustrated on page 25, so that the solid truth of the matter can stand out above the Error of those who claim to worship God, but apparently do so in less than "in spirit and in truth".
If the true worhsippers of God keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus according to revelations, then they have truth about God from God and this should be a simple matter to explain with out speculations. Will there be any two testimonies from this point foward that will agree and speak according to the Law and testimony?
I look forward to your explinations which should come from God since those of the truth according to Jesus hear his voice. Some will probably try to say the truth of this matter is not important, but the Proverbs would disagree.
Proverbs 14:25
A true witnesses delivers souls, But a deceitful witness speaks lies. Proverbs 6:19
A false witnesses who speaks lies, is one who sows discord among brethren. dis·cord: (d s kôrd ) n.. 1. a. Lack of agreement among persons, groups, or things. b. Tension or strife resulting from a lack of agreement; dissension.
If Christian men are divided due to a lack of truth, does that mean they are unintentionally dividing themselves from the spirit of truth that Jesus promised to pour out on his true followers?
The reason many Christian percptions on this issue are divided is due to someones testimony from Christian history not telling the full truth of the matter. Is there anyone at this forum who can speak a truth that delivers souls? My soul may depend on your ability to speak the truth about God from God to solidify that God is real and Jesus did fulfill all things in the Laws of Moses, Prophets and Psalms as he claimed.
Can you guide this lost sheep back to the shepard with truth and guiding light from the shepard? I have tried to share this study with my questions in other forums and they have simply banned my questions which are based on this study. Some forums disregard that I have asked questions based on the link referenced study and simply deleted the link from My post causing confusion as to why I would ask the questions which I have asked. It's said that God is not the author of confusion and if you are of God you would not delete a word of this post to cause confusion if truth can be established that will save my soul. I pray to the same God you all claim to serve that this will not happen since i am seeking truth from those who claim to have it. Will my questions be banned or will truth come to light by inspiration of God proving to me and many others that God is real and the true worshippers of God can receive truth about God from God, thus proving that God is real?
I look forward to the answers of those inspired and those not inspired (even though they may think they are). For the purpose of this thread, I want to know when the start time of the 3 days and 3 nights prophecy began, and why YOUR perception should you choose to participate, is greater than the other denominational perceptions presented.
Later or in another thread, we will discuss if this study makes a good case for Jesus fulfilling the 4 day time specific prophecy of the Passover Lamb since there is not much evidence on the internet or in the bible gospels concerning this. There is other ancient historical references used by the author to present that Jesus fulfilled the 4 day time specific prophecy of the Passover Lamb, but that is a whole new conversation all together.
Blessings in search of the truth.
http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf
The study at this link makes the best case to date I have seen for Jesus fulfilling the 4 day time specific prophecy of the Passover Lamb (Lamb Chosen on tenth day and killed on 14th day). The study then goes on to make the best case to date that I have seen for Jesus fulfilling the 3 days and 3 nights propehcy in accordence with the manner in which God defined time in the scriptures, possibly proving the scriptures of Prophecy are not open to personal interpretations. Is this study deciving me to believe in God? Are Many Christians deceived to believe in God in less than "in spirit and in truth" since the true worshippers of God are said to be "in spirit and in truth"? I only ask this question since truth from God should not vary depending on the human perception delivering the truth of God from God since those of the truth hear God's voice according to Jesus when speaking to Pilate.
I want to present an exercise for human perception with this thread. On page 25 of the link referenced study is a page that presents all the denominational starting points for the 3 days and 3 nights Prophecy that the Christian world has shared in various denominations at various points in Christian history. If the true worshippers of God are in spirit and in truth then the truth should be solid and verifiable. Which of the starting points represented by colored arrows on the top of page 25, or the bottom time line of page 25 is the truth from God according to the Law and testimony (spirit of Prophecy)?
Don't just make a claim to a starting point and call it truth from God; Please explain why the perception of truth you are presenting is more true than the other Christian perceptions objectively illustrated on page 25, so that the solid truth of the matter can stand out above the Error of those who claim to worship God, but apparently do so in less than "in spirit and in truth".
If the true worhsippers of God keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus according to revelations, then they have truth about God from God and this should be a simple matter to explain with out speculations. Will there be any two testimonies from this point foward that will agree and speak according to the Law and testimony?
I look forward to your explinations which should come from God since those of the truth according to Jesus hear his voice. Some will probably try to say the truth of this matter is not important, but the Proverbs would disagree.
Proverbs 14:25
A true witnesses delivers souls, But a deceitful witness speaks lies. Proverbs 6:19
A false witnesses who speaks lies, is one who sows discord among brethren. dis·cord: (d s kôrd ) n.. 1. a. Lack of agreement among persons, groups, or things. b. Tension or strife resulting from a lack of agreement; dissension.
If Christian men are divided due to a lack of truth, does that mean they are unintentionally dividing themselves from the spirit of truth that Jesus promised to pour out on his true followers?
The reason many Christian percptions on this issue are divided is due to someones testimony from Christian history not telling the full truth of the matter. Is there anyone at this forum who can speak a truth that delivers souls? My soul may depend on your ability to speak the truth about God from God to solidify that God is real and Jesus did fulfill all things in the Laws of Moses, Prophets and Psalms as he claimed.
Can you guide this lost sheep back to the shepard with truth and guiding light from the shepard? I have tried to share this study with my questions in other forums and they have simply banned my questions which are based on this study. Some forums disregard that I have asked questions based on the link referenced study and simply deleted the link from My post causing confusion as to why I would ask the questions which I have asked. It's said that God is not the author of confusion and if you are of God you would not delete a word of this post to cause confusion if truth can be established that will save my soul. I pray to the same God you all claim to serve that this will not happen since i am seeking truth from those who claim to have it. Will my questions be banned or will truth come to light by inspiration of God proving to me and many others that God is real and the true worshippers of God can receive truth about God from God, thus proving that God is real?
I look forward to the answers of those inspired and those not inspired (even though they may think they are). For the purpose of this thread, I want to know when the start time of the 3 days and 3 nights prophecy began, and why YOUR perception should you choose to participate, is greater than the other denominational perceptions presented.
Later or in another thread, we will discuss if this study makes a good case for Jesus fulfilling the 4 day time specific prophecy of the Passover Lamb since there is not much evidence on the internet or in the bible gospels concerning this. There is other ancient historical references used by the author to present that Jesus fulfilled the 4 day time specific prophecy of the Passover Lamb, but that is a whole new conversation all together.
Blessings in search of the truth.