I believe God knows when a believer is mocking Him when sowing to the works of the flesh, thinking he can get away with it without reaping corruption as a result; hence the warning from a loving Father in Heaven.
Yes He does- so we must leave it to Him to judge.
There does seem to be a guideline for contentions in the church.
For contentions in teh church, yes! For trying to read the thoughts and intent of anothers heart- no! It takes humble questioning to discover if they will reveal it.
Not sure how or if that also applies to outward ministry as well. At some point, when someone cannot hear, we are to dust our feet off.
This is for the elders in teh church setting and for us in evangelical situations.
I reckon we can trust the Lord Jesus Christ to guide us in these matters as well and help us to do the Father's will when it is time.
I have a paraphrased saying to deal with all people I try to live to for it is biblical : Love em all with christs Love and let god sort out the best!
Referring to tongues of angels as other tongue speakers do to justify praying in tongues is why I clarified that gibberish nonsense is not that, as many assume tongues that are not coming with interpretation, has to be for private use without actually discerning that it is not of Him at all and it is that praying in tongues that I consider as gibberish nonsense; not that you did.
I dare say most tongue speaking to day is not the gift of tongues, but religious fervor due to teh sect one is in.
Is not a hyperbole a linguistic tool?
Yes it is, just not used where you say it is used. Construct and words identify things like hyperbole, euphemisms, idioms colloquialisms etc.
You are stating an assumptions as read into scripture as others have done that is going against the plain truths as found in other scripture.
Well given that issues of tongues is only found in early acts and here in corinth- their words carry great weight. Acts shows a demonstration and corinthians an explanation
Doesn't make it any more right than people praying in tongues during a sewrvice.
Maybe the ones you agree on with me as misuse, but apparently we are not agreeing on that tongues are not for private use.
Well we know the bible forbids praying in tongues in the church. speaking in tongues is okay. So if praying in tongues is not for the public worship-where does it fit??????
14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
This is in the prayer closet!
You have that backwards. Satan's tongues is gibberish nonsense that has existed before Pentecost as confirmed by scripture in
Isaiah 8:19 for why God's gift of tongues which is of other men's lips t speak unto the people is not going to be turned around to speaking gibberish for why there is no interpretation as if being redirected back to God. That would make God the copy cat sounding like the devil's tongue and for that tongue to be not understood by any one nor interpreted that it bears no fruit, makes God the author of confusion; which He is neither.
Not all occultic tongues are pure gibberish. I know I was part of it!
Going to take a miracle for you to see this. Read all of these verses in the context of the message given that Paul is stressing how God's gft of tongues will come with interpretation for why the tongue speaker is to pray that someone will interpret that tongie so the tongue speaker may understand it too for that tongue to be fruitful to the tongue speaker.
Already seen it! I sewe Paul speaking of praying in tongues and speaking in tongues. If you have some definition that shows praying and speaking are teh same, that would be the miracle you think I need if you list it!
It is not the Holy Spirit praying. The holy Spirit is manifesting tongues thru Paul but Paul is praying that some one will interpret that tongue.
I don't! I recognize that paul is giving several instructions here. Public utterances, then he segways to private utterances in verses 14 And 15 posted above!
If you wish to believe there is no such thing as a prayer tongue, that is your privilege! If you want to bash your brethren and imply they will not be raptured because they gfrew up with bad teaching- I pity you!
Being in unrepentant sin or iniquity is an issue for placement within the kingdom of heaven because they will become vessels unto dishonor in His House for not departing from iniquity just as those who do depart from iniquity are the vessels unto honor in His House.
And there you have it! they are children, just disobedient children. but when teh rapture comes- they go as well. for it is not our level of achievement, but the blood applied that guarentees our rapture.
Since God is judging His House first per
1 Peter 4:17, then where do vessels unto dishonor comes from that are in His House that they would be considered as dishonorable? Being in iniquity. And yet any believer being found in iniquity that denies Him is why He will deny them.
They come from planet earth! they are just as saved as vessels of honor! Our salvation is 100% based on Jesus plus nothing! rewards anbd placement is based on our obedience.
So Him denying saved believers is how He will excommunicate those in iniquity for how they become vessels unto dishonor but still in His House.
And Scripture teaaches He will never deny saved believers. He promised in Hebrews to never leave us or forsake us! He will never deny His own! He also said in John He will not lose on that the Father has given Him. You just can't lose your salvation!