On each of your posts you have the Shema, but you do not understand it, neither do the unbelieving Jews who recite it daily.
We understand it perfectly. It is you who deliberately confuses ‘one being’ with ‘being at one.’
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On each of your posts you have the Shema, but you do not understand it, neither do the unbelieving Jews who recite it daily.
We understand it perfectly. It is you who deliberately confuses ‘one being’ with ‘being at one.’
Dear Wrangler,
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are Echad but you choose, key word here, choose to reject the commandment of Jehovah.
Everyone, pay attention to the commandment of Jehovah -
Then Moses asked God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is His name?’ What should I tell them?” 14God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” 15God also told Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.…
If we argue against God and try and tell Him who He is or is not = then we do not believe Him. If we do not believe Him we are the sons of disobedience and subject to His wrath.
Worse mistake anyone can make is to be high minded and start adding too and taking away from God's Word - the penalty for that sin is eternal separation from God.
In the beginning God - Genesis 1:1
In the beginning was the Word - John 1:1
Abraham - Father of Nations
Isaac - Only begotten of the Father
Jacob - Holy Spirit
Jesus is Jehovah = Isaiah 44:6 and Revelations 1:1-8
I’m not sure why I sense hostility from you here.
So tell me then;
What is the name of the Father?
What is the name of the Holy Spirit?
The name of the Father and God of Jesus Christ is, "YHWH," some pronounce these four hebrew letters as, Yaweh, others as Jehovah, others pronounce it differently than these two ways. I've found nowhere in the scriptures that the Holy Spirit has a personal name.
Is the HS divine?
If by using the word Divine you're trying to say that the Holy Spirit is a person then I can't agree with that. The Father and God of Jesus is holy, so God's Holy Spirit is holy, but that doesn't make the Holy Spirit a Divine person. If the Holy Spirit was a person who is God then yes the Holy Spirit would be Divine, but although the scriptures personified the Holy Spirit, like Jesus spoke of the holy spirit as a “helper” and spoke of such helper as ‘teaching,’ ‘bearing witness,’ ‘giving evidence,’ ‘guiding,’ ‘speaking,’ ‘hearing,’ and ‘receiving.’ In so doing, the original Greek shows Jesus at times applying the masculine personal pronoun to that “helper." But it's not unusual in the Scriptures for something that is not actually a person to be personalized or personified. Wisdom is personified in the book of Proverbs (1:20-33; 8:1-36); and feminine pronoun forms are used of it in the original Hebrew. Wisdom is also personified at Matthew 11:19 and Luke 7:35, where it is depicted as having both “works” and “children.” The apostle Paul personalized sin and death and also undeserved kindness as “kings.” (Ro 5:14, 17, 21; 6:12) He speaks of sin as “receiving an inducement,” ‘working out covetousness,’ ‘seducing,’ and ‘killing.’ (Ro 7:8-11) Yet it is obvious that Paul did not mean that sin was actually a person.
We have no evidence that the scriptures giving a personal name to the Holy Spirit as it does the Father and God of Jesus and his Only Begotten Son Jesus.
The scriptures refers God’s spirit as his “hands,” “fingers,” or “breath,” so the Bible shows that the holy spirit is not a person. (Exodus 15:8, 10) A craftsman’s hands cannot function independent of his mind and body; likewise, God’s holy spirit operates only as he directs it. (Luke 11:13) The Bible also compares God’s spirit to water and associates it with such things as faith and knowledge. These comparisons all point to the impersonal nature of the holy spirit.—Isaiah 44:3; Acts 6:5; 2 Corinthians 6:6.
As I said before the Bible gives the names to God and to his Son, which is Jesus Christ; yet, nowhere does it name the holy spirit. (Isaiah 42:8; Luke 1:31) When the Christian martyr Stephen was given a miraculous heavenly vision, he saw only two persons, not three. The Bible says: “He, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand.” (Acts 7:55) The holy spirit was God’s power in action, enabling Stephen to see the vision.
When the apostle John quoted Jesus, he personified the Holy Spirit as a “helper” (paraclete) that would give evidence, guide, speak, hear, declare, glorify, and receive. When he did this he used masculine personal pronouns such as “he” or “him” when referring to that “helper.” (John 16:7-15) He did so because the Greek word for “helper” (pa·raʹkle·tos) is a masculine noun and requires a masculine pronoun according to the rules of Greek grammar. When John referred to the holy spirit using the neuter noun pneuʹma, he used the genderless pronoun “it," at John 14:16, 17.
When the Christian martyr Stephen was given a miraculous heavenly vision, he saw only two persons, not three. The Bible says: “He, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand.” (Acts 7:55)
Is Jesus Divine?
is Jesus the Word of God?
Not God / divine
Not uncreated or eternal
Not a man
Not a person
what else is there???
How is it that He descended from heaven?
The Word is the Only Begotten Son of God who was given the name Jesus when the Word became flesh (human)Is Jesus Divine?
is Jesus the Word of God?
Outstanding analysis.
No and no! Words are an attribute of being. Deuteronomy 18:15-18 clearly tells us God will select a man from among the people to put His words into his mouth.
And Jesus tells us he only says what God tells him to say.
We know Jesus is not divine. He tells us in John 17:3 that the Father is the only true God. Paul affirms this in 1 Corinthians 8:6.
The Word is the Only Begotten Son of God who was given the name Jesus when the Word became flesh (human)
do is Jesus divine?
All were mentioned
how did he come down from heaven then?