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He was despised and was avoided by men, A man who was meant for pains and was familiar with sickness. It was as if his face were hidden from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account. (Isaiah 53:3)

At that time Jesus said in response: "I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved." (Mathew 11:25-26)

For that reason I will assign him a portion among the many, And he will apportion the spoil with the mighty, Because he poured out his life even to death And was counted among the transgressors; He carried the sin of many people, And he interceded for the transgressors. (Isaiah 53:12)

Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of My Father who is in the heavens will. (Matthew 7:21)
 

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He was despised and was avoided by men, A man who was meant for pains and was familiar with sickness. It was as if his face were hidden from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account. (Isaiah 53:3)

At that time Jesus said in response: "I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved." (Mathew 11:25-26)

For that reason I will assign him a portion among the many, And he will apportion the spoil with the mighty, Because he poured out his life even to death And was counted among the transgressors; He carried the sin of many people, And he interceded for the transgressors. (Isaiah 53:12)

Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of My Father who is in the heavens will. (Matthew 7:21)
for me i am done as i REJECT all watch tower litterer new world translation
 

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Sadly too many Christian churches buy that 1000years = a day nonsense as well.

Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” (Genesis 2:16-17)

Did Adam die in a 24 hour period or did he die within the Day of a thousand years? So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died. (Genesis 5:5)


How long is the Day of Christ? Have you never heard of Christ's Millennial Reign?

Revelation 20:7
Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison,

Revelation 20:2
He seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for 1,000 years.

Revelation 20:5
(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:6
Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years.

Revelation 20:3
And he hurled him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not mislead the nations anymore until the 1,000 years were ended. After this he must be released for a little while.

Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years.

You may want to read (2 Peter 3:8) again and call it a man made construct?
 
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Christian churches buy that 1000years = a day nonsense as well.
2 Peter 3:8 — The New King James Version (NKJV)
8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
 

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Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” (Genesis 2:16-17)

Did Adam die in a 24 hour period or did he die within the Day of a thousand years? So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died. (Genesis 5:5)


How long is the Day of Christ? Have you never heard of Christ's Millennial Reign?

Revelation 20:7
Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison,

Revelation 20:2
He seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for 1,000 years.

Revelation 20:5
(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:6
Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years.

Revelation 20:3
And he hurled him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not mislead the nations anymore until the 1,000 years were ended. After this he must be released for a little while.

Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years.

You may want to read (2 Peter 3:8) again and call it a man made construct?

Now go back and look at the Hebrew for the curse of Adam and learn what God actually said!

Depending o the Context th eDay of the Lord is either the 7 year tirubulation, the day of HIs return or whatever the context defines the term as.
C'mon this is basic grammar!

As for 2 Peter? It is sad you are such a sloppy reader of Gods INspired Word and rely on men's opinion instead of what the word says!

2 Peter 3:8
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8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

1. First this is talking about Gods patience with men. and not a statement as to how long a day with the lord is.
2. there are two teeny words that should tell you this is not to be taken literally but as a metaphor: "AS". This tells us that Gods patience is longsuffering! It is making a comparison and not a literal statement. C'mon man this is basic grammar!
 

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2 Peter 3:8 — The New King James Version (NKJV)
8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

See my answer in post #106 and learn the difference between literal things and things written as metaphors.
 

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it says is as is so the thousand year reign may not be calendar years


It says that in Peter in reference to Gods patience which tells us it is to be understood metaphorically,

but nowhere do we find comparative terms in regards to the thousand years. And as god communi9cates in terms we are designed to understand why would he deviate from time telling for this one thing alone???
 

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for me i am done as i REJECT all watch tower litterer new world translation
I kept asking what translation he was quoting, but he would never answer that . . .

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It says that in Peter in reference to Gods patience which tells us it is to be understood metaphorically,

but nowhere do we find comparative terms in regards to the thousand years. And as god communi9cates in terms we are designed to understand why would he deviate from time telling for this one thing alone???
i am not into time other than time is at hand and knowing the time now is high time we awake .....the rest i just have to be ready
 

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highlight his scriptura right click on it hit search you will find it..
Yeah. But I wanted him to answer. There were a couple of other questions I had asked, and I'm not surprised I stopped getting responses.

Much love!
 

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Yeah. But I wanted him to answer. There were a couple of other questions I had asked, and I'm not surprised I stopped getting responses.

Much love!
he might note might but doubtful
 
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Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” (Genesis 2:16-17)

Did Adam die in a 24 hour period or did he die within the Day of a thousand years? So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died. (Genesis 5:5)
Why do you think he didn't die that day? Is there more than one kind of death? Or only one?

Much love!
 

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How long is the Day of Christ? Have you never heard of Christ's Millennial Reign?

Revelation 20:7
Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison,

Revelation 20:2
He seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for 1,000 years.

Revelation 20:5
(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:6
Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years.

Revelation 20:3
And he hurled him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not mislead the nations anymore until the 1,000 years were ended. After this he must be released for a little while.

Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years.

You may want to read (2 Peter 3:8) again and call it a man made construct?

That there is a 1000 year kingdom does not mean that "the day of Christ" is equal to that 1000 year kingdom. And, if it is, that further does not give license to just go around the Bible substituting 1000 years whenever you see "day".

Jesus prophesied that He would be 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth. I expect that you don't apply your formula there, would that be fair to say?

Much love!
 

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I think the Jehovah's Witness sort don't want to discuss Jesus' deity with me anymore . . .

Boo hoo!!

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most of the ones i run onto in discussion is well versed/trained . the n w t is so close to a real Bible you have to know what your reading, i have one some place
 

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most of the ones i run onto in discussion is well versed/trained . the n w t is so close to a real Bible you have to know what your reading, i have one some place
I used to have one. I had theirs, and a whole bunch of other "translations" and various books, the Book of Mormon, stuff like that.

I remember once, I spent about 2 hours with a Watchtower fellow twice, comparing his teaching with the Watchtower Interlinear I had. I showed him from his own people's book that their teaching didn't line up with Scripture. It did not dissuade him, though. Really nice fellow!

Much love!
 

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I used to have one. I had theirs, and a whole bunch of other "translations" and various books, the Book of Mormon, stuff like that.

I remember once, I spent about 2 hours with a Watchtower fellow twice, comparing his teaching with the Watchtower Interlinear I had. I showed him from his own people's book that their teaching didn't line up with Scripture. It did not dissuade him, though. Really nice fellow!

Much love!
i invited Mormons to come back they bring there bible and i would have mine no Littauer. there pretty programed . they come to the house i let them give me what they have pass out. my undertsanding if you condem them that makes them a better Christian based on works