Paralambanetai

[ewq1938]

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second) death resurrection has no power.

1.) (First) Resurrection To Life
2.) (Second) Resurrection To Damnation, The Second Death

The two resurrections don't happen the same day. Revelation 20 is clear one group of the dead lives again while "the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished".

So that is one group resurrecting BEFORE the thousand years and one AFTER the thousand years.

Read it for yourself:

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[ewq1938]

It's my opinion that those seen after the Lords death were "raised from the dead" and not resurrected, just as Lazarus was "raised from the dead" this takes place on the last day when the glorified immortal body is received

You will closely note the scripture states "After His Resurrection" not "Their Resurrection

Matthew 27:50-53KJV
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

"raised from the dead" or "arose" all mean to resurrect from the dead.

There are two types of physical resurrection:


1. raised back to mortal and physical life like Lazarus.

2. raised to immortal physical life like the dead in Christ at the resurrection.


The word for resurrection is this:

G386
ἀνάστασις
anastasis
an-as'-tas-is
From G450; a standing up again, that is, (literally) a resurrection from death (individual, general or by implication (its author)), or (figuratively) a (moral) recovery (of spiritual truth): - raised to life again, resurrection, rise from the dead, that should rise, rising again.
Total KJV occurrences: 42

Heb 11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again (G386 anastasis): and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

Same exact word used in Revelation 20 and elsewhere.

 

[Truth7t7]

The two resurrections don't happen the same day. Revelation 20 is clear one group of the dead lives again while "the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished".

So that is one group resurrecting BEFORE the thousand years and one AFTER the thousand years.

Read it for yourself:

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Yeah maybe.
It’s odd to think about what happened to Lazarus later. Did he have to die a second time? Something tells me no. It’s appointed to men to die once. Even the two men who witness finally die once…

edit x that was in answer to ewq, sorry.

 

[Truth7t7]

"raised from the dead" or "arose" all mean to resurrect from the dead.

There are two types of physical resurrection:


1. raised back to mortal and physical life like Lazarus.

2. raised to immortal physical life like the dead in Christ at the resurrection.


The word for resurrection is this:

G386
ἀνάστασις
anastasis
an-as'-tas-is
From G450; a standing up again, that is, (literally) a resurrection from death (individual, general or by implication (its author)), or (figuratively) a (moral) recovery (of spiritual truth): - raised to life again, resurrection, rise from the dead, that should rise, rising again.
Total KJV occurrences: 42

Heb 11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again (G386 anastasis): and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

Same exact word used in Revelation 20 and elsewhere.

The words used are "Raised From The Dead" ti explain those coming from their graves, the word "Resurrection" is exclusively used for the event that takes place at the second coming on the last day, when the believer receives the immortal glorified body

John 12:9KJV
9 Much people of the Jews therefore knew that he was there: and they came not for Jesus' sake only, but that they might see Lazarus also, whom he had raised from the dead.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yeah maybe.
It’s odd to think about what happened to Lazarus later. Did he have to die a second time? Something tells me no. It’s appointed to men to die once. Even the two men who witness finally die once…

edit x that was in answer to ewq, sorry.

Did Lazarus or Tabith maintain the glorified immortal body "No", they were raised from the dead in the mortal body they maintained before death, and yes this mortal body later died

 

[ewq1938]

The words used are "Raised From The Dead" ti explain those coming from their graves, the word "Resurrection" is exclusively used for the event that takes place at the second coming on the last day, when the believer receives the immortal glorified body

I already proved that to be false. Please read all of a post:

G386
ἀνάστασις
anastasis
an-as'-tas-is
From G450; a standing up again, that is, (literally) a resurrection from death (individual, general or by implication (its author)), or (figuratively) a (moral) recovery (of spiritual truth): - raised to life again, resurrection, rise from the dead, that should rise, rising again.
Total KJV occurrences: 42

Heb 11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again (G386 anastasis): and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

Same exact word used in Revelation 20 and elsewhere.

These were not resurrected as immortals nor is it a reference to the second coming resurrection.

 

[ewq1938]

Yeah maybe.
It’s odd to think about what happened to Lazarus later. Did he have to die a second time? Something tells me no. It’s appointed to men to die once.

Most will die once, some will not die at all, and yes some will die twice. There are two exceptions to your referenced verse.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Did Lazarus or Tabith maintain the glorified immortal body "No", they were raised from the dead in the mortal body they maintained before death, and yes this mortal body later died

I don’t know. There are two witnesses who maybe never died but God took them and they will die in the tribulation. There could just as easily be another two who died and were brought back to life who don’t die a second time for all I know.
Anyway, absolutely wonderful talking with you guys today!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Did Lazarus or Tabith maintain the glorified immortal body "No", they were raised from the dead in the mortal body they maintained before death, and yes this mortal body later died

Doesn’t specifically tell us that though. I agree it wasn’t their immortal bodies though.

 

[Timtofly]

Yeah maybe.
It’s odd to think about what happened to Lazarus later. Did he have to die a second time? Something tells me no. It’s appointed to men to die once. Even the two men who witness finally die once…

edit x that was in answer to ewq, sorry.

Lazarus was dead for 4 days. He had the same physical resurrection as those in Revelation 20:4. That was the whole point of Jesus waiting. Other resurrections in Scripture were within a day of death. Jonah was in a fish for 3 days, but no one calls that a resurrection. Lazarus was the example of the resurrection to eternal life. Not sure why so many reject that point. Lazarus would have ascended with the rest of those resurrected at the Cross. They all heard Jesus call them out of the grave. I guess people are OK that if Jesus called them out of the grave, they would just expect to turn around and physically die again. I am not talking about a near death experience, or dead for a few hours, or in a comma. I am talking about brain dead for 4 days. Literally nothing for the soul to come back to. Hope you all's resurrection is better than what you all claim for Lazarus.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

Isaiah 26:20 is Gods divine protection of the Church on earth, there is no such thing as a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven as you claim

As I have stated you are in error. Your continued endeavor to try to make me to believe an untruth is in vain.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

Immediately after the Second Coming many will realize they are still on earth and part of The Apostisized.

"And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Obviously they did not depart.

This is just not factual. If you can't see these things then the real question is why? Jesus/God are going to show you why in heaven. He will show you hearing an untruth whispered by Satan that brought your ability to do your calling in full to a slow roll. When we can't heard God's voice Satan is applying the brakes to our ministry or calling (we all have a calling) and in a state of joy.

 

[Truth7t7]

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[Truth7t7]

Lazarus was dead for 4 days. He had the same physical resurrection as those in Revelation 20:4. That was the whole point of Jesus waiting. Other resurrections in Scripture were within a day of death. Jonah was in a fish for 3 days, but no one calls that a resurrection. Lazarus was the example of the resurrection to eternal life. Not sure why so many reject that point. Lazarus would have ascended with the rest of those resurrected at the Cross. They all heard Jesus call them out of the grave. I guess people are OK that if Jesus called them out of the grave, they would just expect to turn around and physically die again. I am not talking about a near death experience, or dead for a few hours, or in a comma. I am talking about brain dead for 4 days. Literally nothing for the soul to come back to. Hope you all's resurrection is better than what you all claim for Lazarus.

Lazarus didnt experience the last day resurrection into a glorified body as seen in Revelation 20:4 (Resurrection/Anastasis)

Lexicon :: Strong's G386 - anastasis
KJV Translation Count — Total: 42x
The KJV translates Strong's G386 in the following manner: resurrection (39x), rising again (1x), that should rise (1x), raised to life again (with G1537) (1x).

 

[stunnedbygrace]

When Jesus Chrust returns The end of the world takes place (Then Cometh The End)

Of course you want to se a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, that will never take place

Oh…I’ve heard this view I think…the thousand years it mentions three times in a row just means a long and unspecified amount of time? I am really puzzled about the view because I see too much that is ignored, like…there will be no war but there will still be arguments. There will still be some death of people too. To me, that’s an improvement but not perfection yet and it’s so drastic of a change I can’t ignore it. I don’t think there’s ever been a really long, unspecified period of time where men did not war with weapons and kill one another. I never asked anyone when this long and unspecified amount of time without war and where men live for much longer than now is supposed to occur or have occurred. I guess it sounded too crazy for me to want to pursue. When is the long and unspecified time of no war and living for hundreds of years again to occur in this view?

 

[Truth7t7]

Oh…I’ve heard this view I think…the thousand years it mentions three times in a row just means a long and unspecified amount of time? I am really puzzled about the view because I see too much that is ignored, like…there will be no war but there will still be arguments. There will still be some death of people too. To me, that’s an improvement but not perfection yet and it’s so drastic of a change I can’t ignore it. I don’t think there’s ever been a really long, unspecified period of time where men did not war with weapons and kill one another. I never asked anyone when this long and unspecified amount of time without war and where men live for much longer than now is supposed to occur or have occurred. I guess it sounded too crazy for me to want to pursue. When is the long and unspecified time of no war and living for hundreds of years again to occur in this view?

It states nothing whatsoever about war, weapons, etc. In Revelation 20:1-6

Millennialist use Revelation 20:1-6 to build a false platform using the words (Thousand Years) then jump into the Old Testament and try to build their (Thousand Year) kingdom

All references used in the Old Testament are nothing more than the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, being disguised by Many Millennialist to portray their (Thousand Year) Kingdom on this Earth

Just one example below, Isaiah chapters 11 & 65 that Millennialist claim represents their Millennial Kingdom on this Earth

Isaiah Chapters 11 & 65 Is The Very Same Place, The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth, Don't Be Deceived By Claims This Represents A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth

Same Wolf & Lamb Together, And Lion Eating Straw Like The Bullock/Ox, In The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth

(For, Behold, I Create New Heavens And A New Earth)

Isaiah 65:17-18 & 25KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

Isaiah 11:6-7KJV
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

 

[Truth7t7]

Oh…I’ve heard this view I think…the thousand years it mentions three times in a row just means a long and unspecified amount of time? I am really puzzled about the view because I see too much that is ignored, like…there will be no war but there will still be arguments. There will still be some death of people too. To me, that’s an improvement but not perfection yet and it’s so drastic of a change I can’t ignore it. I don’t think there’s ever been a really long, unspecified period of time where men did not war with weapons and kill one another. I never asked anyone when this long and unspecified amount of time without war and where men live for much longer than now is supposed to occur or have occurred. I guess it sounded too crazy for me to want to pursue. When is the long and unspecified time of no war and living for hundreds of years again to occur in this view?

Many Millennialist falsely claim Ezekiel chapters 40-46 represents their (Thousand Year) Kingdom On This Earth

As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV
10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.
20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.
21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

 

[Truth7t7]

Oh…I’ve heard this view I think…the thousand years it mentions three times in a row just means a long and unspecified amount of time? I am really puzzled about the view because I see too much that is ignored, like…there will be no war but there will still be arguments. There will still be some death of people too. To me, that’s an improvement but not perfection yet and it’s so drastic of a change I can’t ignore it. I don’t think there’s ever been a really long, unspecified period of time where men did not war with weapons and kill one another. I never asked anyone when this long and unspecified amount of time without war and where men live for much longer than now is supposed to occur or have occurred. I guess it sounded too crazy for me to want to pursue. When is the long and unspecified time of no war and living for hundreds of years again to occur in this view?

Many Millennialist falsely claim Zechariah Chapter 14 represents their (Thousand Year) Kingdom On This Earth

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

 

[Truth7t7]

Oh…I’ve heard this view I think…the thousand years it mentions three times in a row just means a long and unspecified amount of time? I am really puzzled about the view because I see too much that is ignored, like…there will be no war but there will still be arguments. There will still be some death of people too. To me, that’s an improvement but not perfection yet and it’s so drastic of a change I can’t ignore it. I don’t think there’s ever been a really long, unspecified period of time where men did not war with weapons and kill one another. I never asked anyone when this long and unspecified amount of time without war and where men live for much longer than now is supposed to occur or have occurred. I guess it sounded too crazy for me to want to pursue. When is the long and unspecified time of no war and living for hundreds of years again to occur in this view?

Many Millennialist falsely claim Ezekiel Chapters 47-48 represents their (Thousand Year) Kingdom On This Earth

Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.