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Phoneman777

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The Church isn’t some weird little club invented by a false prophetess in the 19th century.
It’s the Body of Christ Himself.
It ain't some Sun worshiping, child rapist, globalist pedophile headquarters in Rome, either....because the "REMNANT CHURCH" of Revelation "keeps the commandments of God" which Jesus set forth in the beginning, while the Roman Catholic church maniacally boasts it has the power to "change times, abrogate laws, and dispense with all things, EVEN THE PRECEPTS OF CHRIST".

The penalty suffered by an adulterous woman was stoning, but if she was the DAUGHTER OF A PRIEST, she was "burned with fire". The Whore of Babylon will burn with unquenchable fire.
 

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I have not, no matter how many times you proclaim it.

the first virture of a Christian is humility not pride!

Jn 15:5 apart from me you can do nothing!

Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with mescattereth abroad.

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
 

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the first virture of a Christian is humility not pride!

Jn 15:5 apart from me you can do nothing!

Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with mescattereth abroad.

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

What I said is very far from pride. I think you need to check your understanding of the word.
 

Naomanos

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the first virture of a Christian is humility not pride!

Jn 15:5 apart from me you can do nothing!

Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with mescattereth abroad.

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

I have made my peace with God about it and God has granted me peace about my decision. If He granted me peace, I have obviously worked in concert with Him. The devil doesn't give peace the way that God does.
 

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Clearly you're a pagan and have no clue about the prophetic word and the writing of the pentateuch. The first 5 books of scripture were written by Moses under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, but I do understand that this is contested by the pagan RCC scholars.
Lol....Yup, clearly I am a pagan since I stated the fact that Jews wrote the OT. To be honest with you, that is the first question I ask people to determine if they are pagan OR not: Do you think Jews wrote the OT? If they answer NO...then they are clearly pagan. :Laughingoutloud:


Well, sounds like we agree. Moses (who was a Jew), with inspiration from the Holy Spirit, wrote some books of the OT.
 

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True, you are CERTAIN that you are not presently saved (By the confession of your lips “no one is saved until the end” … so you may or may not reach the goal).

I guess that you don’t believe the Bible?

we have free will to remain in the grace of God and abide in Christ or to reject Him.

Jn 15:1-5
Or
2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:


the first virtue of a Christian must be humility!

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn ofme; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
 

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Of course you don't. Your eyes are wide shut.
Comedy hour has started already.....Soooooo you are not going to explain your cryptic words?

Only YOU know what YOU meant. Help me understand what you meant!

Mary
 

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Any comparison of the above, a memorial, with this...View attachment 26440

Is rather a stretch. Nice try though.
Illuminator posted the top picture as an answer to the question he himself posed, do Catholics worship statues? I asked you
"What's going on in front of those statues? " I fail to see anything cryptic about that question.
 

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I guess that you don’t believe the Bible?
we have free will to remain in the grace of God and abide in Christ or to reject Him.
I guess that you don’t believe the Bible?

  • [John 6:39] "This is the will of him who sent me: that I should lose none of those he has given me but should raise them up on the last day."
  • [John 6:44] "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day."
  • [present tense, not future]
    • [Acts of the Apostles 15:11] "On the contrary, we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus in the same way they are."
    • [Ephesians 2:5] "made us alive with Christ even though we were dead in trespasses. You are saved by grace!"
    • [Ephesians 2:8] "For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God's gift "
    • [Hebrews 10:39] "But we are not those who draw back and are destroyed, but those who have faith and are saved."
 

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Adventism, that is hope in the seconds coming, began as aNT concept 40 days after the resurrection on the mount of olives... See Acts 1:11.
Seventh Day Adventism began at the same time as all those disciples who witnessed that event were Sabbath keepers.
So. 33AD... PALESTINE.

bull crap!

now try to tell the truth!

don’t forget to mention the burned over district!
 

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Illuminator posted the top picture as an answer to the question he himself posed, do Catholics worship statues? I asked you
"What's going on in front of those statues? " I fail to see anything cryptic about that question.
You fail to see the difference between veneration and worship. You "venerate" Ellen G. White, the only way out for you is to change the meaning of "venerate" into something it does not mean.

2113 Idolatry not only refers to false pagan worship. It remains a constant temptation to faith. Idolatry consists in divinizing what is not God. Man commits idolatry whenever he honors and reveres a creature in place of God, whether this be gods or demons (for example, satanism), power, pleasure, race, ancestors, the state, money, etc. Jesus says, “You cannot serve God and mammon.”44 Many martyrs died for not adoring “the Beast”45 refusing even to simulate such worship. Idolatry rejects the unique Lordship of God; it is therefore incompatible with communion with God.46

2114 Human life finds its unity in the adoration of the one God. The commandment to worship the Lord alone integrates man and saves him from an endless disintegration. Idolatry is a perversion of man’s innate religious sense. An idolater is someone who “transfers his indestructible notion of God to anything other than God.”47

Footnotes:

42 Ps 115:4-5, 8; cf. Isa 44:9-20; Jer 10:1-16; Dan 14:1-30; Bar 6; Wis 13:1-15:19.
43 Josh 3:10; Ps 42:3; etc.
44 Mt 6:24.
45 Cf. Rev 13-14.
46 Cf. Gal 5:20; Eph 5:5.
47 Origen, Contra Celsum 2,40 G 11,861.

I would contend that very few people are so stupid as to think that a wooden crucifix or plaster statue of Christ is Christ Himself, and to be worshiped. They are simply devotional aids, to help concentrate one’s mind on God, just as virtually all Christians would accept painted portraits of Jesus as pious items that help us reflect on our wonderful Lord and Savior and what He has done for us, making it possible to be saved from our sins and go to heaven one day.

In the case of statues of saints, they help us honor or venerate them, which is a separate discussion. So this criticism would apply to so few people as to be miniscule and virtually an irrelevant concern: one in a thousand profoundly ignorant and nominal Catholics, if even that many.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/davea...catholicism-utterly-opposes-idolatry-too.html
 
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There are no statues of EG White in Adventist churches ,no statues at all.
Bowing stuff is worship.
 

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I have not, no matter how many times you proclaim it.

how being outside the ark of salvation (holy mother church) are you to have you’re sins forgiven, you’re new church (sect) only admits two sacraments and confession of sins not being one of them?

At you have Mary for you’re mother and can come to her throne of grace! Heb 4:16
 

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There is and can only be one true:

One God
One Christ
One Savior
One Spirit
One king
One Mediator
One Christian Religion
One New Covenant
One Church / body of Christ
One teaching Authority of apostles
One Gospel
OneVineyard
One Kingdom
One House of God
One Household of faith
One Baptism
One Redemption
One Justification
One Sanctification
One Salvation



Christ is king!
Christi is mediator!
Christ is good shepherd!

Therefore the kingdom, the new covenant, and the church are one and the same!





The Ark of Salvation!

The church is founded by Christ and the sacraments are instituted by Christ for the salvation of all men!

The church and Jesus are one: acts 9:4 Jn 15:1-5 eph 5:32

The church and the sacraments are necessary for and the means of salvation and the life of grace!

Redemption: Eph 2
Justification: Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5 Acts 2:38
Sanctification: Jn 1:16 Jn 10:10 Jn 15:5
Salvation: Matt 24:13 Rom 13:11

The body of Christ:
1 Corinthians 12:27

The one true church:
Matt 16:18 Jn 10:16

The household of faith:
Gal 6:10

The house of God:
1 Tim 3:15

The church of the living God:
1 Tim 3:15

The kingdom of God on earth:
Dan 2:44 Matt 6:33 Matt 16:18 Matt 12:28 Mk 1:15 Jn 3:3-5 Acts 8:12 1 Cor 4:20 Col 4:11 1 Thes 2:12 Rev 1:9 12:10

The new and eternal covenant:
The one fold of Christ:

The new covenant body of Christ church is an ark, the ark of Peter, the ark of Noah was a type, all those outside the ark died, and all those outside the church die spiritually, there is no life outside of Noah’s ark and there is no spiritual life or salvation outside of the church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles!

1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

Christian ritual of baptism:
Immersion, sprinkling, pour pure water over the forehead three time with the words, I baptize thee in the name of the father, and of the son, and of the Holy Spirit! Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 Matt 28:19 Acts 2:38-39 Acts 8:36-38 Acts 22:16
1 Pet 3:21

Proper intention: to make a new creature in Christ, to put on Christ, initiation into the new covenant of grace
Matter: pure water
Form: the words

Born again! Born from above!

'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)


Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by baptism!

Ez 36:25 I (God) shall sprinkle you with pure water, and you shall be white as snow!




Jn 1:5-5 abide in Him, apart from Him you can do nothing.

God provides for everything:
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

He is the way we must follow!
He is the truth we must believe!
He is the life, life of grace thru the sacraments of the church in which we must live!

Abide in Christ and His church with grace and life provided by God thru the sacraments!

Sacramental life: Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. Jn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Baptism: (initiation into the covenant)
Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

The Eucharist: (holy communion)
Mt 26:26-39 Jn 6:51-58 1 Cor 11:23-25

Confession of sins:
Jn 20:23

Confirmation
Mt 17:27 Lk 22:32 acts 8:14-17
acts 14:22

Marriage:
Matt 19:4-6

Holy orders: (priesthood)
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru His priesthood in Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 10:1-8 Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 acts 1:17 acts 6:4 acts 8:26
2 Cor 5:18 1 Tim 4:14 Eph 2:20

Extreme unction: (anointing with oil)
1 Tim 4:14 James 5:14

The one, holy, catholic, (universal) and apostolic church founded by Jesus Christ on Peter and the apostles!

The promise (sacred oath or sacrament) of the father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!

The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation

Better covenant on better promises or an oath of sacramental life of grace!

Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

Jn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
 

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It is the true meaning of Antichrist that had divided the Church, that is the original body of true believers, from Christ. It was your church that replaced Christ with vicarious filli dei.
It was your church which replaced the intercession of Christ with that of Mary, and dead guys.
It was your church that replaced the way of Christ's salvation through grace by faith in His blood and self sacrifice with a works based salvation of sacraments and earning through indulgences granted as a result of piety, prayers, fastng, pilgrimages, visitations to holy shrines etc etc etc. Works.
It was your church that replaced the hope of the resurrection of the righteous at Christ's second coming by pretending souls are independent living people who have natural immortality and go immediately to heaven, hell, or some other place after death. A pagan belief at best. An occult satanic counterfeit at worst.
It was your church that defied God and replaced His only declared sacred holy day, the 7th day Sabbath, with a day dedicated to the Mithraic sun god of Constantine concerning which there is no biblical Commandment.
It was your church that replaced the work and ministry of the holy Spirit of Christ who inspired the authors of the divine scriptures, who was promised to believers that they may understand those same scriptures, removing Christ and His Spirit as a relational loving God to a God to be feared, requiring human mediators such as the college of Cardinals to rule over the church instead of Christ, the magisterium to interpret the scriptures instead of the Spirit of Christ, and the Pope to be the head of the church instead of Christ. In other words, Antichrist. Instead of Christ. Vicarious filli dei. Vicar of the Son of God. 666.
Come out of her thee faith. Of not you shall partake of the same plagues that God shall pour out upon this counterfeit interloper when it is destroyed in the final days.

don’t have a spell!

hope you feel better now!

is Christ king?
 

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It is presumption that declares scripture to be true that Christ established His church, and then declare that church to be yours upon no other evidence other than some obscure and misapplied historical links. Jesus said by their fruit ye shall know them. Take a good hard look at history without the rose tinted spectacles. While Catholics excuse their evil history with the quip, there were a few bad popes but that didn't affect the true church's teachings, the real truth that underlies all of that history is that persecution, murder, destruction, power, and self glory, have always been the Hallmark of Rome, both pagan Rome under the Caesars, and papal Rome under the inheritors to the pagan throne, the Popes. Those brutal histories shared by both powers are not the result of a few bad eggs, but a result of evil apostasy and rejection of Christ and enshrined principles within church dogma which you alone on this forum was honest enough to admit to in several occasions and support. That persecution and eradication of who you call heretics is true catholicism. It is not Christianity.

Justice is executed by the state!

Does not wield the sword in vain!

Old Testament:

Ez 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

Ez 9:4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

(Even those who did not worship the sun but were not grieved at this offense were slain!)

1 kings 18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

1 kings 18:40 And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.

(All these false prophets were killed)

Leviticus 20:27
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.


We don’t apologize for the truth of the gospel of life!

Two edge sword:

The church has received from her savior the “sacred deposit of faith” eph 4:5 Jude 1:3

And has to command from Christ to teach all men matt 28:19 without error Lk 10:16 Jn 20:21 Jn 16:13

To teach, and declare the truth of divine revelation and to condemn all errors!

To Defend and safeguard the sacred deposit of faith and all the faithful from error preserving the purity of the faith of Jesus Christ!

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

We live in freethinking Open society with “rights” like free speech, freedom of the press etc. with separation of church and state as opposed to a close kingdom, by a prime minister with the cardinal arch-bishop as the chancellor and only the true faith revealed by Christ being allowed and all other are another Gospel and error and treason not only against the king and the realm but against God!

Treason!

Heresy is treason against God and His revealed truth!

Rev 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema!



Authority in the state!

1 pet 2: 13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

We must also forbid divorce, adultery, and all forms of sexuality against the commandments, work on Sunday’s and holidays, absolute free speech, expression, and press without any regard for morals, only the good, true, and beautiful are acceptable!
 

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It is presumption that declares scripture to be true that Christ established His church, and then declare that church to be yours upon no other evidence other than some obscure and misapplied historical links. Jesus said by their fruit ye shall know them. Take a good hard look at history without the rose tinted spectacles. While Catholics excuse their evil history with the quip, there were a few bad popes but that didn't affect the true church's teachings, the real truth that underlies all of that history is that persecution, murder, destruction, power, and self glory, have always been the Hallmark of Rome, both pagan Rome under the Caesars, and papal Rome under the inheritors to the pagan throne, the Popes. Those brutal histories shared by both powers are not the result of a few bad eggs, but a result of evil apostasy and rejection of Christ and enshrined principles within church dogma which you alone on this forum was honest enough to admit to in several occasions and support. That persecution and eradication of who you call heretics is true catholicism. It is not Christianity.

1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema

I guess that verse ain’t in scripture????

Error or heresy always based on pride is treason against God’s truth!

treason is lawfully punishable by death!
 

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Exactly... Thank you. And you recognize it as a symbol, which I agree with. A public symbolic act of a previously established voluntary decision on the part of the Christian to sacrifice self through Christ... To account himself as dead with Christ on the cross, and reckon himself raised with Him, and had therefore become a new creature, born again of the Spirit of God, and receiving the promise of the holy Spirit confirming the promise of eternal life.
"There is therefore no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit" Romans 8:1.
There is no injunction upon Christians to join and submit to the authority of a finite sinful fallible man who sees himself as Christ's replacement on earth.
KJV 1 John 1:2-3
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us.
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

only those who receive valid Christian baptism!

A sacrament is an oath! A sacred promise from God! Ez 36:25-27
Acts 2:38-39 (this promise)


A sacrament is an outward sign for all men including infants And a gift from God to help us see what he does inwardly and invisibly by his grace!

As grace Washes our souls in the merits of Jesus blood from original and personal sin, so the outward action of washing is visible!

without the outward action the inward action cannot take place!

Jn 3:5 Titus 3:5 water and washing
acts 22:16 wash away your sin!

Jn 3:5 Born again BY water and the spirit! Not by “faith alone”!

They did not go to Jerusalem and preach “accept Christ as you’re personal Lord and savior “

They went to the river (water) and they baptized! Jn 3:22

A covenant requires an outward sign of the inward action of grace!

Ez 36:25 I will sprinkle you with clean water and you shall be made white as snow.

Acts 22:16 washing away your sins.

Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 pet 3:21 baptism saves you.

You cannot enter on you’re own or by faith alone!

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Heb 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,


Baptism!

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38 eph 2

Born again! Born from above!

'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who I has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by God thru baptism!



Christ instituted the holy church for the salvation of all men, (repent and believe the gospel, with the institution of the sacraments to convey grace to sanctify souls!


Effects of faith & baptism!

Ez 36:25-27 washed in baptism, with a new heart and the Spirit
Jn 3:5 born again in baptism
Mk 16:16 faith & baptist
Acts 2:38 repentance & baptism
Acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
Acts 22:16 baptism washes away sin
Rom 6:3 died with Christ
Col 2:12 risen with Christ
1 cor 12:13 baptized into the church
Gal 3:27 by baptism put on Christ
2 Tim 1:10 brought to life
2 cor 5:17 new creation
Eph 1:13 sealed by the Holy Spirit
Eph 2:1&5 brought to life in baptism
Eph 4:5 one baptism
Eph 5:26 faith and baptism
Titus 3:5 baptismal regeneration
1 pet 1:2 washed in Christ’s blood
1 pet 2:9 the kingdom of light
1 pet 3:20-21 baptism saves us!

“Faith alone” accomplishes nothing!
1 cor 13:2 even all faith (alone) without charity avails NOTHING!!!

Faith and baptism!

Scripture says none of the things about “Faith alone”!

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!




“Faith alone”

Questions

where does scripture says we have died with Christ by “faith alone”?

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

where does scripture say we are members of Christ and his church by “faith alone”?

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

where does scripture says we put on Christ by “faith alone”?

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Where does scripture say our sins are washed away by “faith alone”?

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

where does scripture say we are saved or justified by “faith alone”?

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

The only reference in scripture to “faith alone” is James 2:24 NOT BY “FAITH ALONE”?

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

How can you enter by your own if it must be ministered to you? Baptism is done unto you, “not do it yourself by faith alone”

Jn 3:5 born again by faith alone?

Where is “Accept Christ as your personal lord & savior” is found in scripture?

They did not go preaching this line but went immediately to the river and baptized Jn 3:22

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Eph 4:5 one baptism

Why don’t it say one teeny tiny little act of “faith alone”???

When we first believed we are saved?

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

How can salvation be nearer than when we first believed if you’re saved by believing?

1 pet 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Matt 24:13 endures to the end Shall be saved.

How can salvation happen when we first believed if it’s the end?

If salvation is by “faith alone” then faith would be the greatest!
1 cor 13:13 charity is the greatest!

Even all faith much less “faith alone” without charity avails nothing!
1 cor 13:2

Faith alone” unbiblical!

WATER AND THE SPIRIT!
Baptismal regeneration is the biblical mandate!!!
 
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