No, you’re saying that. Scripture says the dead rises first. The dead and the living do not rise together. You can try to spin it, but going to the clouds isn’t the blink of an eye. The change to immortality is the blink of an eye. The living go AFTER the dead and how much time is in between? We arnt told and I will not guess it.
Ahhh, in the Blink of an eye, lol, look up how long it takes for an eye blink and you will see the humor, and that you do not understand what Paul was doing. Paul said I will be ALL THINGS, to win souls for Christ. So, if they feared their loved ones was left behind, it was Paul's job to keep them in the faith, he was no a Prophet who brought "Thus saith the Lord" doctrine, he was a pastor to flocks he needed to uplift. IMHO, anyone who sees the "Blink of an Eye" and can't understand it is really the SAME TIME, just are not using common sense logic here. Look up how long it takes for an eye to blink, do it, then come back and make a real argument that the dead in Christ and living are not raised at the exact same time. There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between "Thus Saith the Lord" prophets and a Pastor to a flock writing "Letters" to uplift and encourage them. Both happen at the exact same time, them MEET IN THE AIR !! To go be with Jesus in Heaven for 7 years, as the 70th week happens on earth we marry the Lamb Jesus in Heaven.
The problem is people do not understand the difference. If you actually think God sees the blink of an eye as a different tines then you see what you want to see.
THINK !! Both happen at the Last Trump.
1 Cor. 15:52 In a
moment, in the
twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the
trumpet shall sound, and
the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.
So, you still want to make a case for it doesn't happen at the exact same time? Paul says this, not me. Paul some time used spin, but overall his understanding was correct because he was taught this up in the 3rd Heaven. We just have to dissect the SPIN/Encouragement and the actual events. What I do not do is just accept men's traditions, I plow down until I get the nuggets many others always seem to miss.
I use ALL THE SCRIPTURES to tie it all together, that is why I get it right: SEE BELOW:
1 Thess. 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven
with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the
dead in Christ shall rise first:
17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,
to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
So, it happens at the same time, even if we are raised 5 minutes later, it is ONE TRIP, Jesus is not going to raise the dead, wait suspended in the air a few days, then CHANGE the living, as they wait a few days hanging around up in our atmosphere !! Common sense tells us these facts, Paul was trying to encourage his flocks, if its one moments difference or 5 minutes difference it is ONE EVENT, the Rapture of the Church which happens Pre Trib happens to both the Dead in Christ and the Living in Christ on the exact same day.
Mr Milan, we are not resurrected till after the heavens are no more per Job. That defeats a Pre-TB timeline without me posting numerous other reasons the Pre-TB theory is not workable. Secondly, Christ doesn’t leave heaven till the restoration of all things. That doesn’t work in a prewrath theory. If you know anything about the trumpets, understand by reading them, it’s unmaking the creation account. Genesis creates trees and grass, Revelation destroys them. Genesis creates life in the sea and rivers; Revelation destroys life in both when turned to blood. All things are removed to leave what cannot be shaken behind.
I agree with you that there is great spiritual darkness. And we need to be watchful and on guard. If you want numerous reasons why Pre-TB is not a solid working theory, I’ll happily present it. But don’t ask if you don’t care, ask if you’re curious and actually searching for truth. As you said, there’s false things everywhere. It can even be in ones church!
Now, you have very little choice but to say I am correct on this.
The ABOVE SCRIPTURES just proved this to be in error, the Dead and Living are all raised at the exact saw time, Pre Trib.
The Rapture being imminent does not fit with the Second Comings timing, we know when the Second Coming happens, 1260 days after the Beast comes to power.
I do not think you understand what "The Last Trump" means my friend. The Feast of Trumps always ended the Harvest (Think Church Age). Jesus will fulfill all 7 Feasts, they were called holy convocations (Dress Rehearsals). So, Israel were practicing these Feasts which were God telling them how the whole history of Israel and the world would play out. Jesus would/will fulfill all 7 of these Feasts.
Spring Feasts Jesus fulfilled
1.) Passover (Jesus' blood fulfills this of course)
2.) Unleavened Bread (Jesus knew no sin, he was unleavened)
3.) First-fruits (Jesus was the first-fruits of the grave, he overcame death)
Summer Harvest (Church Age)
4.) Feast of Weeks/Pentecost/Summer Harvest/Church Age ( This feast was all alone on the calendar, just like the Gentile Church Age is all alone in these 7 Feasts. Jesus is the head or high priest, we are the body saving or harvesting souls for God. The Feast of Trumps always ended the Summer Harvest!! But the DETAILS are enthralling!! It has to do with what "The Last Trump" actually means, not what most think it means. So, there was a reason Jesus stated that no one can know the Exact DAY nor HOUR of him rapturing the Church, that is because the Church Age Harvest is ended by the Last Trump (think Feast of Trumps) and Paul was referring unto this. So, how did the Summer Harvest always end? Well, since Israel was on a Lunar Calendar (God Time) they could not know the exact day nor hour in which the New Moon would usher in the New Year and thus end the Summer Harvest !! Get it now? On the Gregorian Calendar all of these things are a known entity, but not on the Lunar Calendar. They could know THE SEASON but not the exact day nor hour.
So, the Israeli leaders sent up two witnesses to spy out when the new moon came in, as soon as they saw it they sent ack word, then the Israeli leaders sent word to start blowing the Trumps or Shofars via the Feast of Trumps. They blew in 9 sets of 11, or 99 times, then on the "Last Trump" the Shofar blew LONGER & LOUDER than the other 99 and this officially ended the Summer Harvest (Think Church Age). So, the Last Trump Paul was referring unto is not even understood by most tbh. Basically the Last Trump ends the Church Age. Jesus is fulfilling the Harvest of Souls which will be his bride, via the Gentile Church Age period, and then he also fulfills the Feast of Trumps by calling the Church home (see Rev. 4:1).
Fall Feasts soon to be fulfilled
5.) Feast of Trumps (Jesus fulfills this also, he ends the Summer Harvest and the Feast of Trumps signifies that the Feasts of Atonement and Tabernacles are nigh at hand.)
6.) Feast of Atonement (Who needs to Atone before the 70th week can end according to Daniel 9:24-27? Israel of course, and Zechariah 13:8-9 shows that 1/3 (5 million) repents just BEFORE the Day of the Lord arrives in Zechariah 14:1. So, Jesus' blood now fulfills this Feast also, just like he fulfilled the other five feasts before this.)
7.) Feast of Tabernacles (to tabernacle simply means to DWELL with God, and since Jesus rules from Jerusalem for 1000 years and he is God I would say that qualifies for TABERNACLING with God wouldn't you? So, Jesus fulfills all 7 Feasts, and the Last Trump is really nothing like you actually think. )
As pe the Pre Trib Rapture, that is the most easy understanding to me, the TIMING of nothing else comes even close to working. I have been called unto Prophecy 37 years. If I only know one thing in all of life it is End Time Eschatology.
God Bless.