Ahhh, you are hung up on that sane 6th Seal stuff. You can't get past it.
Why would I get past it. Jesus tells us about the endtimes and the end of the age in Matthew 24 and John tells us exactly the same thing in Revelation 6. How you do not see that I can't comprehend. Jesus tells us about the beginning of sorrows. John gives us the exact same information with the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse., the first four seals. Then Jesus tells us about the Great Tribulation and John gives us the 5th seal. The Jesus tells us He is coming immediately after the tribulation and gives us the cosmic signs of the sun, moon and stars. John gives us the same cosmic signs at the 6th seal and the world says hid us for Him that sits upon the throne. How you can't see that Jesus and John are telling us the exact same story, I'm speechless. I can't figure out why you can't see this. They both give you the signs.
The seals are the 70th week of Daniel.
The Jews will repent just before the DOTL, as Zechariah 13:8-9 shows, seeing as the very next verse is Zech. 14:1 and shows the DOTL arriving
The Jews in the nation of Israel that heed the Word will flee to a place of protection. They do this when the abomination of desolation occurs. After the tribulation those Jews go through the wrath of God in a place of protection. That is not the case for the seed of the woman. The seed of the woman is the 12 tribes across the earth that the dragon will go after when he can't get to the woman. The seed of the woman that remains alive unto the coming of the Lord will be raptured at the last trump at the 6th seal. The 144,000 are the first fruits of this harvest.
. They never see Jesus returning else they would have to have been saved prior to the Pre Trib Rapture. Evidently you are conflating the LAST TRUMP with a REvelation Trump, which it has absolutely nothing to do with.
The Church will be raptured before the seals (the 70th week of Daniel) are opened. That is why you see 24 elders in heaven with reward crowns. Jesus has come and His reward is with Him. Then God turns His attention to Israel. The seed of the woman will be raptured at the last trump which happens BEFORE the trumpets of wrath.
It astonishes me when a guy is PRE TRIB but then rejects the very things that prove it because he has other ideas on things like the 6 Seal Return, you need to let that go, a SEAL binds a Book or Scroll, that is all. Jesus is FORTETELLING what the Anti-Christ does over the last 42 months in Seals 1-5 AND FORETELLING what the Wrath of God brings over the exact same 42 month period of time. Both start in Rev. 8 however, that is why the 7th Seal is over in Rev. 8. Do you know why heaven is silent ? For the same reason it grieved God to have to destroy the whole evil world by a flood, thus there is no celebration, no glory, Heaven is sad because Judgment has come finally in Rev. 8 with the opening of the 7 Sealed Scroll of Judgments.
I am also astonished. I can't figure out how you do not see that Jesus and John tell the EXACT same story. The first 6 seals are Matthew 24 (up to the coming of Jesus when He sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth)
The LAST TRUMP is Pre Trib, it ends the Harvest or Church Age. NO ONE will now the exact day nor hour BUT.......we can know THEV SEASON.
The Last Trump is for the seed of the woman. The day of the Lord won't take them by surprise. They will know exactly when He is coming. The Goodman, the Church will not know when the bridegroom will return.
Yes indeed we are gone before the 70th week, Israel only repens as a Nation during the 70th week, that is why I said they will not understand the LAST TRUMP which is Jesus ending the Harvest.
When the Pentecost early summer harvest happens with the rapture of the Church, the twelve tribes across the earth will realize they missed it. Part of Israel will have its eyes opened when the fulness of Gentiles comes in. What will these Jews say?
Jeremiah 8
20 The harvest is past,
the summer is ended, and we are not saved.
No, we are the First-fruits of the Barley, Israel are the First-fruits of the Wheat, Barley can be sifted without being crushed, Wheat has to be crushed before it can be sifted
You've been watching too much Perry Stone.
The barley harvest will likely be the dead in Christ. We, the Church, will not proceed those that sleep. Pentecost, the first trump harvest feast is for the Church.
. The 7 Feasts tell the whole story, 1.) Passover via Jesus Christs saving blood 2.) Unleavened Bread (he knew no sin 3.) First-fruits (Jesus was the first-fruits of the Grave, not the Church.
The seven feasts do tell the story. When the harvest is past and summer has ended, the Jews will realize they are not saved. The days of the Great Tribulation will be cut short or there would be no flesh saved. Only the dead would be saved.
The Harvest/Pentecost started the Church Age, 4.) Feast of Weeks ( Why would the Rapture be here? This is the 2000 some odd year Church Age, or TIME OF THE GENTILES, when the
Pentecost is the first harvest feast (Yeah, I know, barley) But the barley and wheat loaves are presented at the same time. Since the Church age was started on Pentecost it is likely that Pentecost is our harvest feast.
5.) Feast of Trumps blow (the LAST TRUMP) the Harvest will end, then Israel MUST ATONE which equals the 6.) Feast of Atonement and then finally the Kingdom Age comes in via the 7.) Feast of Tabernacles where Jesus will dwell with Israel for 1000 years.
You need to realize this....... The Church will be raptured BEFORE the 70th week of Daniel (The seals) The seed of the woman will be raptured before the day of wrath. The 144,000 are first fruits of this rapture. Jesus comes at the 6th seal. Here is the harvest.
Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
God subs in the Church (Gentiles/a people I have not known) to take the place of a backslidden Israel, who MUST REPENT or ATONE before the 70th week ends. So, the LAST TRUMP ends the Summer Harvest just like it did for Israel, then Israel must ATONE, only then can Jesus RETURN to Dwell with Israel for the Kingdom Age. The Harvest ENDS in the fall, not the Summer.
Only the nation of Israel, those that flee as instructed to a place of protection will go through the wrath of God along with unbelievers. Both the Church and the 12 tribes across the earth believers will be raptured for the marriage supper. None of Gods people are appointed to wrath.
I have enjoyed conversing with you even though our views are quite different. I am able to follow you completely because talking to you is like talking to me 15-20 years ago. So none of what you are saying is slipping through the cracks. I really liked you bringing up Apophis. I'm no date setter, but we are instructed to watch..... and BE READY. Six years before Apophis would be 2023. Very interesting.