Bible was never written to you

[MatthewG]

The Bible says not worry and so I try not to. You make blatantly statements about the Bible and about your personal beliefs. Christians will challenge you. If you can't handle it, then don't bother posting threads because thise who are in the know will rebuke and challenge you.

I have just discovered where you are getting all your falty theology from:

Christian Ultra Libertarian of Truth

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This Shawn McCraney, founder of this wild, offshoot " cult", broke off from LDS and started his "Christian Religion" that has been ostracized by most Christians who have a basic understanding of the fundamentals ( Catholics and Protestants). From what is presented about his beliefs, I would equate it to a Preterist/ Universalism.
This is why you will get and will continue get rejection of your views.

People be hating. Should I follow and hate other people who opposed to my position? Does it make a difference to you? If I believe that the world has been reconciled to Yahavah, and everything has been restored to the Garden of Eden state.

Want me to bow down to what you rather me believe instead? Shawn always told me never to trust him or anyone else and seek for truth for myself.

All I ever hear most people say is “I am wrong”

What can I do? I’m gonna stay where I’m at in the wrong place with my behind on a seat, with a dunce hat on continuing to say, Jesus has had victory over all things. And I do believe openly in a second chance to perhaps go into the Kingdom after judgment of condemnation resurrection body is given.

What are you gonna do? Get Yahavah to send me straight to hell? Are you gonna hate me because I do believe in a God who gets his will done, and gives what people what they want if they don’t want him they can have the world, or darkness outside the heavenly Kingdom.

Ya look like a fool getting on my case.

 

[Ritajanice]

There are some things mentioned in the Bible pertaining to Israel materially such as their destruction, and that the bride would be gotten.

I believe people who look faithfully to God and seek him don’t need a Bible.

Have i called the Bible useless?

Ok, well, you are entitled to your opinion...I could go further into this, have decided not to....

I’m not here to argue, I will just voice what I believe I am being led to voice...and will continue to do so, if that is Gods will that I do so.

 

[Ritajanice]

It’s Just the internet. People will get mad over the tiniest thing that doesn’t line up with them,

It’s a place of fellowship and where we Glorify God and give him all the Praise and Glory.

It’s not just the internet...my opinion.

We are all learning Mathew, I’ve learnt a lot from God about myself on this forum.

We have all gotten mad I believe when some don’t agree with us....we learn from the Spirit how to deal with that,imo/ belief....which I explained on another post.

We have to also recognise our madness when members don’t agree with us....why do we get mad?....when others don’t agree with us?

 

[MatthewG]

Ok, well, you are entitled to your opinion...I could go further into this, have decided not to....

I’m not here to argue, I will just voice what I believe I am being led to voice...and will continue to do so, if that is Gods will that I do so.

It’s a place of fellowship and where we Glorify God and give him all the Praise and Glory.

It’s not just the internet...my opinion.

We are all learning Mathew, I’ve learnt a lot from God about myself on this forum.

We have all gotten mad I believe when some don’t agree with us....we learn from the Spirit how to deal with that,imo/ belief....which I explained on another post.

We have to also have to recognise our madness when members don’t agree with us....why do we get mad?....when others don’t agree with us?

Glad we reached a conclusion.

 

[MatthewG]

I just wonder where people get their authority to assert the Bible or act as though as they are personally Gods right hand man.

Cause no preacher or so called Christian teacher has any authority or power…

Nor does the Bible have any authority to be used by people as though it is LAW.

The Bible was never written to you to begin with.

 

[MA2444]

Amen!!

Amen!!..my spirit is in agreement with yours...Praise God!

Sis, the enemy loves to stir the pot as we well know..

Hey I aint no Transformer, Lol! I'm a Bro!.

Anyway, So what do we have here? Two witnesses are saying the same thing. In the mouth of two or three witness the truth gets established. And I think Matt is the only one saying that the bible isnt to us.

I dont have any problem hearing the still small voice of God. It was hard to learn but easy to do. I've restrained myself from saying this up until now and was going to walk him through the scriptures but he's not being very receptive to going that dirction. So...??

Actually, me and the Lord had a conversation about this topic and if the Bible is truely for us...and long story short, He told me that He talks to people all day long every day and if I have a problem hearing His voice then it is time to begin reading His Word where He constantly speaks "to us". People's difficulties in hearing the still small voice of God is not that the Lord dont speak. We can not hear Him. We are not focused. We get distracted and are not tuned in to the Holy Spirit!

I can't get away from His voice now, lol! Not that I try to but rather, He doesnt always say what I want to hear (Yikes!) Sometimes He wakes me up at night. He likes to come at 3 am? Pray, son...Sometimes I wake up and pray and sometimes I have went back to sleep. (Forgive me Lord!)

I think when the Lord speaks to us (sometimes through our conscience) and we go aginst something (He) says, or our conscience if you will, then making our own choice interferes with being able to hear His voice and puts us, out of tune with the Spirit.

It was Matt that started this thread, wasnt it? Maybe his conscience told him to talk about it?

 

[Ziggy]

Everything is okay. It’s the Bible simply put was never written to you. Not to much worried about the world, Ziggy. All the best.

How about the Gospel?
Was that to be spread throughout the world for not only that generation but for generations that should come?
If not then why build a church?
Why speak to parents about how to raise their children?
Why look forward to anything if there is no hope?
Should I not have hope?


Hugs Brother

 

[Ritajanice]

Hey I aint no Transformer, Lol! I'm a Bro!.

He,he, sorry Bro,lol.

Anyway, So what do we have here? Two witnesses are saying the same thing. In the mouth of two or three witness the truth gets established. And I think Matt is the only one saying that the bible isnt to us.

I dont have any problem hearing the still small voice of God. It was hard to learn but easy to do. I've restrained myself from saying this up until now and was going to walk him through the scriptures but he's not being very receptive to going that dirction. So...??

Actually, me and the Lord had a conversation about this topic and if the Bible is truely for us...and long story short, He told me that He talks to people all day long every day and if I have a problem hearing His voice then it is time to begin reading His Word where He constantly speaks "to us". People's difficulties in hearing the still small voice of God is not that the Lord dont speak. We can not hear Him. We are not focused. We get distracted and are not tuned in to the Holy Spirit!

I can't get away from His voice now, lol! Not that I try to but rather, He doesnt always say what I want to hear (Yikes!) Sometimes He wakes me up at night. He likes to come at 3 am? Pray, son...Sometimes I wake up and pray and sometimes I have went back to sleep. (Forgive me Lord!)

I think when the Lord speaks to us (sometimes through our conscience) and we go aginst something (He) says, or our conscience if you will, then making our own choice interferes with being able to hear His voice and puts us, out of tune with the Spirit.

It was Matt that started this thread, wasnt it? Maybe his conscience told him to talk about it?

Listen, I haven’t got time to read the rest of your post..it looks interesting read...back later to finish reading what you posted.

 

[MA2444]

People be hating. Should I follow and hate other people who opposed to my position? Does it make a difference to you? If I believe that the world has been reconciled to Yahavah, and everything has been restored to the Garden of Eden state.

Want me to bow down to what you rather me believe instead? Shawn always told me never to trust him or anyone else and seek for truth for myself.

All I ever hear most people say is “I am wrong”

What can I do? I’m gonna stay where I’m at in the wrong place with my behind on a seat, with a dunce hat on continuing to say, Jesus has had victory over all things. And I do believe openly in a second chance to perhaps go into the Kingdom after judgment of condemnation resurrection body is given.

What are you gonna do? Get Yahavah to send me straight to hell? Are you gonna hate me because I do believe in a God who gets his will done, and gives what people what they want if they don’t want him they can have the world, or darkness outside the heavenly Kingdom.

Ya look like a fool getting on my case.

Can you hear yourself Brother? How can you start a thread and then reject everything that everyone says like above? That's a mistake Brother.

I just wonder where people get their authority to assert the Bible or act as though as they are personally Gods right hand man.

Cause no preacher or so called Christian teacher has any authority or power…

Nor does the Bible have any authority to be used by people as though it is LAW.

The Bible was never written to you to begin with.

So what are you saying? That you are God's right hand man with all the answers and no one else?

I could post for the scriptures that say that we do have authority in Christ if you like. Oh it is Jesus's power for sure but what we bind on earth is bound in Heaven (if it is within the will of the Father!)

The Bible is the the word of God. It's your owners manual for this life. You was born with Amnesia about God but God made sure they stuck a Bible in your hand so you may learn of Him. Hmm, that's an old book written to others better cast it aside? Really? Did you drop out of the Service because you didnt read the Field Manual?

The Bible was written expressly for me and to me. You have not even tried to substaniate your view and only keep repeating your opinion.

 

[MatthewG]

Can you hear yourself Brother? How can you start a thread and then reject everything that everyone says like above? That's a mistake Brother.



So what are you saying? That you are God's right hand man with all the answers and no one else?

I could post for the scriptures that say that we do have authority in Christ if you like. Oh it is Jesus's power for sure but what we bind on earth is bound in Heaven (if it is within the will of the Father!)

The Bible is the the word of God. It's your owners manual for this life. You was born with Amnesia about God but God made sure they stuck a Bible in your hand so you may learn of Him. Hmm, that's an old book written to others better cast it aside? Really? Did you drop out of the Service because you didnt read the Field Manual?

The Bible was written expressly for me and to me. You have not even tried to substaniate your view and only keep repeating your opinion.

I disagree. It doesn’t matter if you agree or not. The Bible was not written to you, that’s a fact. When it comes down to thing such as “oh no Matthew is not a believer like us,” we need to correct him. I’m not to worried about one’s own concern… I’m not to worried if a person disagrees, I’ll explain why…

It was not written to you.
It was written for you in order to have ability to even access more information about Yahava. That is good. It however was not written to yourself.

 

[MatthewG]

How about the Gospel?
Was that to be spread throughout the world for not only that generation but for generations that should come?
If not then why build a church?
Why speak to parents about how to raise their children?
Why look forward to anything if there is no hope?
Should I not have hope?


Hugs Brother

There is hope in being part of Gods family and going to be with Yahavah one day, and that he is helping us in our life by faith, and it’s our choice to walk by the spirit…. There is hope in that God still continues to love everyone and call out to them day and night, and that is a fair, righteous and just and honest in his assessments of your own heart, along with mine and whoever else.

I don’t have any hope of seeing Jesus coming back; that was a promise to the people then at that time; yet…

People continue to say the Bible was written to them. That would being in the case of what is really real here? Was just just joking about the things he said concerning his people? Jesus must have been lying and so where the apostles to whom they wrote to. They were just kidding with those people to continue to watch and remainful for the Lords return.

I don’t know what your hope involves…

 

[Jack]

I disagree. It doesn’t matter if you agree or not. The Bible was not written to you, that’s a fact. When it comes down to thing such as “oh no Matthew is not a believer like us,” we need to correct him. I’m not to worried about one’s own concern… I’m not to worried if a person disagrees, I’ll explain why…

I'm really sorry that John 3:16 isn't written to you! Sad indeed!

John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

It was sure written to me!

It was not written to you.
It was written for you in order to have ability to even access more information about Yahava. That is good. It however was not written to yourself.

Who is this Yahava? I can't find it in any Bible translation.

 

[MatthewG]

Thanks for commenting @Jack.

Have I condemned the Bible in so way? To exclude God from loving the world? It is what it says, indeed.


Have I said God hates the world and everyone in it? Or have I suggested that God never loved the World?

It’s been reconciled to God, the world. So… that is great news!

 

[Jack]

Thanks for commenting Jack. Your wasting your time doing so.

No, I'm delivering my soul Matt and maybe pulling you from the fire. And if you don't get pulled from the fire, TRILLIONS of years from now you'll remember you were warned.

 

[MatthewG]

Thanks for commenting @Jack.

Have I condemned the Bible in so way? To exclude God from loving the world? It is what it says, indeed.


Have I said God hates the world and everyone in it? Or have I suggested that God never loved the World?

It’s been reconciled to God, the world. So… that is great news!

I only learned it by reading Paul’s Epistles which were written mainly to gentiles and some Jewish converts in that area, for example Romans. Which was written to the Saints in Rome and some of the gentiles to understand how its that Jesus makes us right with God. And other letters like Ephesians and Colossians, Hebrews. All great stuff written, though just never to me personally.

 

[MatthewG]

No, I'm delivering my soul Matt and maybe pulling you from the fire. And if you don't get pulled from the fire, TRILLIONS of years from now you'll remember you were warned.

No blood on my hands. That was a specific thing to one of the prophets. Not me personally. Sometimes people on here end up just being trolling, or mainly “just misunderstood” the topic subject.

 

[Jack]

No blood on my hands.

If you're not pulling people from the fire, that I doubt you believe in, you may have a nightmare on Judgment Day.

That was a specific thing to one of the prophets. Not me personally. Sometimes people on here end up just being trolling, or mainly “just misunderstood” the topic subject.

Was Jesus "trolling" when He said:

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

 

[RedFan]

Was Jesus "trolling" when He said:

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

JESUS said this? Silly me, all these years I thought JUDE said this!

 

[Jack]

JESUS said this? Silly me, all these years I thought JUDE said this!

Not sure what you mean. Jesus isn't God? The Bible isn't the written Word of God?

 

[MatthewG]

If you're not pulling people from the fire, that I doubt you believe in, you may have a nightmare on Judgment Day.

Was Jesus "trolling" when He said:

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

Okay.