The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

[Searcher]

I see a lot of posts lately here and other places asking "is that really what this or that means" etc. Being one who had a job while many were getting higher "educaton" I dont debate sctipture point by point. I just go by what Jesus said and go with that. Much better for my serenity.

 

[Behold]

Not what this says.

Romans 2:14-16 NIV
(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law,
do by nature things required by the law,
they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.
15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts,
their consciences also bearing witness,
and their thoughts sometimes accusing them
and at other times even defending them.)

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You post verses you dont understand, becaue that is your Theology.

Your verse says.....>that the law's requirments are "written in their Hearts".

The "Laws requirement" is that you dont sin against the law.......so, the way this works is that our conscience, = convicts us of sin.

Atheists who love sin, feel that its wrong, deep inside themselves, and they've never read Moses's Law, and some of them, never read the 10 commandments.
Yet, they have a conscience and God has created it to make you feel BAD about works of the flesh, especially the most serious.

That is what you verse is teaching as "their THOUGHTS sometimes accuse them"............as that is the conscience in all of us.

And when you read "at other times defending them", then that is the same.......that is the mind, in an unbeliever, trying to justfify (defend) their sin., that is made manifest by their conscience.

 

[St. SteVen]

Am i sure that if you try to prove that everyone will be saved, and do not have to trust in Christ and be born again before they die, that you are teaching a false satanic Gospel?

More from Paul.

Every knee will bow and every tongue acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord.
In heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead)
See Philippians 2:10-11

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[Behold]

I see a lot of posts lately here and other places asking "is that really what this or that means" etc. Being one who had a job while many were getting higher "educaton" I dont debate sctipture point by point. I just go by what Jesus said and go with that. Much better for my serenity.

Jesus gave directions to Jews., as He came for the Jews, not for the Gentiles.
Are you a jew?

So, after Jesus was back in Heaven, and the Cross of Christ had birthed the NT Church, as the "bride of Christ".........Jesus called Saul who became Paul the Apostle, and He gave the body of Christ the NT Doctrine, that we are to learn and live by.....daily.

 

[St. SteVen]

I see a lot of posts lately here and other places asking "is that really what this or that means" etc. Being one who had a job while many were getting higher "educaton" I dont debate sctipture point by point. I just go by what Jesus said and go with that. Much better for my serenity.

Welcome to the forum.

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[Behold]

More from Paul.

Every knee will bow and every tongue acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord.
In heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead)
See Philippians 2:10-11

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Yes, In Heaven, the Angels and the rest are worshiping Jesus as "LORD"< right now, while you try to deceive newly arrived people on a Fourm by teaching a false demonic Gospel of "Universalism" and continue to post verses you dont understand.

Real Christians are worshiping Jesus "IS Lord".......dailty., because Jesus IS Lord.

Here is an update for some of you, who need to see this....
Jesus is LORD....of ALL.........no matter..
See, If you believe in Jesus , or if you dont....if you love Jesus, or Hate Jesus, or have no connection or concern........this does not affect the FACT that : JESUS IS LORD.
See, He rose from the dead, and now has "all power, in heaven, and on earth".
That's the power of DIETY... that is the power of the God-man risen, and HE IS LORD........no matter how you feel about it., and there is coming a time, when ALL will kneel before JESUS THE Lord, dead or alive, in heaven, on earth, or in Hell.

And In the Lake of fire, every Christ rejector, and fallen angel, and eventually Satan Himself, will bow the knee to the LORD JESUS THE Chirst.
And it wont save any of them.

Satan truly already understands that Jesus is THE Lord, but it wont save Him.
Satan knew Jesus, pre-incarnate, when He was the "WORD"...........so, Satan has a long history with THE LORD, Yeshua.

Listen....Jesus said....'YOU must be BORN again"......by God, before you die, .....and that is not offered to Angelic Fallen Beings.
Its only offered to HUMAN beings., and its not offered in Hell at all., as you can't be born again, in Hell.

 

[LittleTuneAlright]

- What's your definition of hell?

Suffering.

- How do you see the final judgment playing out?

Judgement(good/ bad) is let go of.

Will everyone be saved in the end?

I don't know. I hope so.

- Will the Lord who taught us to love our enemies incinerate his?

Hopefully he will destroy them by changing their hearts.

 

[St. SteVen]

Hopefully he will destroy them by changing their hearts.

Agree.
Here are a couple of references along those lines.

Mark 9:49 NIV
Everyone will be salted with fire.

Malachi 3:2 NIV
But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears?
For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap.

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[Reggie Belafonte]

They's got A/C down their now !

Is that Aircon or the Anti-Christ ?

But of late on TV show, I seen a farmer dude saying in the snow where he was and looking out younder, That It was like Hell frozen over out their !

 

[Lambano]

The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?​

 

[St. SteVen]

The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?​

Can't live with them; can't live without them.

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