Does "LAW" matter?

[bbyrd009]

Hmmm...Native American Rights Fund? Normal Aligned Radial Features?

ah no, sorry; Pinky's way to laugh!
or so i always thought anyway, lol, maybe not

 

[Willie T]

Hmmm...Native American Rights Fund? Normal Aligned Radial Features?

Pinky & the Brain.

 

[bbyrd009]

Lol...nope, just bbyrd009.

ah, we are reffing Sympathy for the Devil there lol
well, mostly, i am "mark," bio available though. it's boring

 

[bbyrd009]

Pinky & the Brain.

i always thought it was a laugh? But now i am getting "favorite random word," hmm

 

[Willie T]

I was just going to ask if you were pondering what I'm pondering.

 

[Nancy]

Good Morning! I hope.
If Our Savior has written these Laws on are Hearts, as stated in Scripture, then there is no outward working of the letter, But,LOL, there will be that Inward working, which the Spirit gives us a pinch to let us Know that we are, or maybe approaching a slip. By those that keep the Law from that outward working there is no Salvation, but that outward judgment by the Law. those that are lead of the Spirit with the Law from within, will be Justified! through faith, because they Believe, and the Law is kept, So those that keep the Law and have the Testimony of the Lord will be granted access to the Tree of Life! As I said in the first post you responded to, the Law was on tablets of stone, and are now supposed to be on the Tablets of our Heart's, and by the way, the only Laws written on the stone tablet's was the 10 Instruction's, and or Commandment's.
Now as to other's being able to keep the LAW beside's Christ, the Scripture states In Luke that there were people that were blameless before the Law. Luke 1:5-6 - There was in the day's of Herod, the King of Judea, a certain Priest named Zachaias, of the Division of Abijah. His wife was of the Daughter's of Aaron, and Her name was Elizabeth.
6- And they were both Righteous before God, walking in ALL the Commandment's and Ordinances of the Lord Blameless.
These are John the Baptist's Parent's, Zacharias was a high priest, So he had to keep many more, Ordinances than your average man, woman, or child. the Scripture say's they were blameless???
You might have read this before, I only try to bring some thing's to the surface as reference, food for thought. I know that many people read right over points without catching the significance of what was said.
Please do not take this wrong, only trying to establish a point.
Hope your day goes well, and thank you for your participation, as we try to work together for that higher calling!

Yes Truth, it was indeed a good morning, Thank you...I hope it was the same for you too!
Anyhow, here a few thoughts on our subject. Not at all exhaustedly researched just, what I know (or, believe?)


"there will be that Inward working"
Everyday!

"In Luke that there were people that were blameless before the Law."
Yes, many Israelites had to sacrifice bulls and goats to "cover" their sins
but the blood of animals could never take away sins, pay for our sins forever as the only sinless man that ever lived- Christ the perfect. They might have been righteous like Abraham's faith was counted as righteousness but. not sinless by any means.- Rom. 8:3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,

"Genesis states that Noah was righteous, but this is quickly qualified by stating that he was “blameless in his time” (Gen. 6:9). In other words, he was relatively righteous compared to his surroundings (Gen. 6:5, 11-12). Job was considered righteous; however, this was a relative expression, which stated that there was “no one like him on the earth” (Job 1:8). Similarly, when a woman escapes a wife-beating husband, we might call her the righteous party in the divorce. By this, we do not mean that she is perfect. Instead, she is righteous relative to her spouse. In Luke 1, Zacharias and Elizabeth are righteous relative to those around them. Even in the same chapter, Zacharias is rebuked for his unbelief (Lk. 1:18-20)." ((Lk. 1:6) How can Zacharias and Elizabeth be righteous, if none are righteous? | Evidence Unseen)
And, what about Rom. 3:10,23?
I am loving this site! Thank you for your thoughts and kindness!
-nancy

 

[Nancy]

ah, we are reffing Sympathy for the Devil there lol
well, mostly, i am "mark," bio available though. it's boring

Lol- Hi Mark. I will check out ypur profile...can't be any more boring than mine

 

[Nancy]

Pinky & the Brain.

Lol...my brother loves that cartoon...and he is in his 50's! It is funny, even for adults!

 

[Helen]

Lol...nope, just bbyrd009.

Willie T was giving you a huge clue when he said:-

Rats! I forgot to mark it down.

bbyrd009 name is ......Mark.

 

[Nancy]

Willie T was giving you a huge clue when he said:-

Rats! I forgot to mark it down.

bbyrd009 name is ......Mark.

Ahahaha! Got it

 

[Nancy]

From the April 2018 issue of "The Evangelist" by Loren Larson, this isn't the whole article, but it's simple, spot on and well written.

"The scripture declares that the first covenant with the Old Testament laws have been deemed obsolete. One cannot enter into a new agreement until an old agreement has been rendered inactive or is no longer applicable. Therefore, the old covenant and the Old Testament law was rendered obsolete when Christ nailed them to his cross, blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us. A new covenant - a better covenant with better promises - is now what we live under, and we are to be held responsible to. Ours is not a mixture of old covenant law with new covenant promise. Ours is a brand-new covenant that does not rely upon the old covenant in any way. Both old and new covenants reveal God to the human race. But the old covenant was transitory in nature while the new covenant is referred to as the everlasting covenant."

Wonderfully put!

 

[Willie T]

The big shock comes when you find "law" all through the NT.

 

[FHII]

The Law was abolished and done away wirh. It only matters in salvation as a reminder and a schoolmaster. It tells us as a shadow about the law of faith.

 

[Truth]

8:3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,

Very well put, and I Agree, BUT-LOL- the Key in this passage is "Sending His Own Son in the [ LIKENESS] of sinful flesh as an Offering for SIN.
When Adam fell, at that point all people were contaminated with the Sin forever, Our Savior was not Conceived, But Created within His Mother, Thus His Blood was not contaminated, remember we are payed for with His Sinless Blood, and He also Kept all of His Father's Words, He did not Break the Law, His Blood was also without the Curse from Adam! Son of God, Son of man, also called the Second Adam. Hope you are enjoying this, as I am, because this is just people expressing their take on what the Scripture expresses. Am I wrong? I don't know. Am I right, I am never sure, it is just what I see.

Also even if they were blameless before the Law, they still had the Curse coursing through their veins. With all the Temple Sacrifices, there were never any Sacrifices for Intentional Sin, and any other sacrifice was just a temporary Pardon, so to speak.

 

[Truth]

It is not written, "The moment the Law is fulfilled, the Earth is going to be destroyed."

It is, rather, saying that now that the Law has been fulfilled, the End is permitted to come.

(Although, in truth, that was never discussing "the end of the world." So, we are misapplying the meaning in a couple of pretty distorted ways .)

In my post to Nancy the point I was trying to make, Is the our Savior states, until heaven and earth pass away, then goes on to say until all is fulfilled, So is all Fulfilled, personally I believe that there is yet some Fulfillment to come, as the norm, the Church say's that our Savior fulfilled every thing at the Cross, I believe that He fulfilled much, but not ALL. IMO

 

[Nancy]

Very well put, and I Agree, BUT-LOL- the Key in this passage is "Sending His Own Son in the [ LIKENESS] of sinful flesh as an Offering for SIN.
When Adam fell, at that point all people were contaminated with the Sin forever, Our Savior was not Conceived, But Created within His Mother, Thus His Blood was not contaminated, remember we are payed for with His Sinless Blood, and He also Kept all of His Father's Words, He did not Break the Law, His Blood was also without the Curse from Adam! Son of God, Son of man, also called the Second Adam. Hope you are enjoying this, as I am, because this is just people expressing their take on what the Scripture expresses. Am I wrong? I don't know. Am I right, I am never sure, it is just what I see.

Also even if they were blameless before the Law, they still had the Curse coursing through their veins. With all the Temple Sacrifices, there were never any Sacrifices for Intentional Sin, and any other sacrifice was just a temporary Pardon, so to speak.

Yes, I am indeed enjoying this. I agree with all the above...BUT...LOL-Jesus was also born under the Jewish Law and was the only sinless Man-hence His perfect, sinless blood sacrifice. I believe He was all God and all man...forfeited His power (until the times were right) while on Earth living as a human. He was the only person who ever could keep all of the commandments.
BTW= I do not believe either one of us is wrong! Lol...just sharing food for thought. We will learn from each other on this forum, if we allow ourselves to be open and to agre like adults to disagree, lol...We have the most important thing in common-Jesus.

 

[Truth]

Yes, I am indeed enjoying this. I agree with all the above...BUT...LOL-Jesus was also born under the Jewish Law and was the only sinless Man-hence His perfect, sinless blood sacrifice. I believe He was all God and all man...forfeited His power (until the times were right) while on Earth living as a human. He was the only person who ever could keep all of the commandments.
BTW= I do not believe either one of us is wrong! Lol...just sharing food for thought. We will learn from each other on this forum, if we allow ourselves to be open and to agre like adults to disagree, lol...We have the most important thing in common-Jesus.

Yes! this has been refreshing!! I will try to be as agreeable and disagreeable as possible,LOL. For the sake of growing up in the fullness and stature of Our Savior, moving on , running the race, to that Great Calling. Have a Blessed Evening.

 

[Truth]

The Law was abolished and done away wirh. It only matters in salvation as a reminder and a schoolmaster. It tells us as a shadow about the law of faith.

OK, if it is abolished, then what is written on your Heart, and I am not referring to the 613 Law's in the OT. God gave 10 Commandments at Sinai, then put on stone, which the Scripture's state will be written on your Heart, from stone [hearts] to soft flesh Hearts!

 

[Truth]

Hmmm...Native American Rights Fund? Normal Aligned Radial Features?

NO! not a real fact, LOL

 

[Helen]

Jesus was also born under the Jewish Law and was the only sinless Man-hence His perfect, sinless blood sacrifice. I believe He was all God and all man...forfeited His power (until the times were right) while on Earth living as a human. He was the only person who ever could keep all of the commandments. <snip>

Hi there.
Well to that I cannot agree ( the Bolded)
He was the Last Adam...He came to take back what the first Adam lost in the beginning. Therefore He laid aside His glory and became flesh.
I have to believe that He laid it all aside. ( to become as Adam, to legally take back from the Enemy what had been lost , by man)
It was lost by man, therefore taken back by man.
He had no unfair advantage in this legal transaction.
Yes , as He said- " I could call ten-thousand angels..."
We also remember Satan came to Him and tempted His to use His divine power, He did not fall for it.
So no, to do what He came here to do...He became fully man...anointed for the task by His Father. The Son of God.

He was as we know,full of the Spirit...much more than any of us ever have been...The Spirit is within us, and we have infilling...but we are not full..(probably because we are overfull of too much other stuff. )
He had the Spirit without measure...
Anyway...this is how I see it...just my opinion...you don't have to agree, my husband often doesn't agree with me!